Powercoating Info.

[FrgMstr]

Roger that on the FRS Det, excuse my ignorance. I will pick up a set at Walmart this week. Probably should have a set for the truck anyway...

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Black 2003 H2 - Just like most of yours, just possibly with less crap bolted on.

My job: http://www.HardOCP.com

[Detonate]

Klaus, you are a bastard!

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North Texas Hummer Team Member

2003 Red H2 equipped with Tough Country Heavy Duty Armor Series Front End with Winch, Rear Bumper, Brush Guard, and Roof Rack.

[Klaus]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Detonate:
Klaus, you are a bastard!
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Yep! Guilty as charged!

Klaus

Skull & Bones Member since 2003

[frank6150]

So you guys are saying all you need to do is wipe the dust off the rims and then do it?

The couple shops I talked to all mentioned stripping the rims down before coating them.

S&B Member since '03

[FrgMstr]

I dropped off my wheels to be black powder coated last week at Crosslink Powder Coating here in Dallas. $75 to blast the 5 wheels. $25 per wheel to powder coat. I purchased an extra set of stock rims for $150 on ebay.

I picked out a finish that looked to be very close to stock and was described to me as being very durable. This guy also sent me to another shop that would paint the caps to match the powder coat job.

I should be picking them up this Wednesday. I will post pictures and a follow-up.

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Black 2003 H2 - Just like most of yours, just possibly with less crap bolted on.

My job: http://www.HardOCP.com

[Detonate]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by FrgMstr:
2. And most importantly, after blasting you get a rougher surface area that will increase surface area and porosity of the wheel allow for a powder coating that will undoubtedly adhere better. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>That's what common sense would say, and it sounds very good when "said". But in truth, because of the way powder coating works, the roughnes of the surface doesn't matter at all. Really a smoother surface is going to give you a better look. And a rough surface will show as the powder forms a uniform coat on the surface and is fused with the metal when cured.

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North Texas Hummer Team Member

2003 Red H2 equipped with Tough Country Heavy Duty Armor Series Front End with Winch, Rear Bumper, Brush Guard, and Roof Rack.

[Detonate]

The guy I talked to in Ft. Worth had originally told me that I'd need to have them blasted over the phone, and quoted me $100 to do so, which I agreed to pay.

When I got to him and showed him the rims, he then told me I didn't need to have them blasted.

That to me says he's being honest about it.


Hey Kyle,
Did you get new tires as well? I've decided that I'm waiting to get new tires until discount tire stocks them. They are $100's of dollars less than I've found 37's anywhere.

Oh, and about this weekend. We are planning on meeting at Gilmer around 9, or meet at Denny's near where 80 and I-20 merge around 7, have breakfast. Convoy to Gilmer around 8, and arrive around 9.

I can get better directions to the Denny's if you want to meet there.

Looks like we have 4 H2's, 1 Jeep, and 1 H1 coming from Hummerteam. Not including you, or anyone you bring.

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North Texas Hummer Team Member

2003 Red H2 equipped with Tough Country Heavy Duty Armor Series Front End with Winch, Rear Bumper, Brush Guard, and Roof Rack.

[MisterEd]

I used new rims so there was minimal dust on them.....I have been told the biggest problem in coating wheels comes from brake dust not being totally cleaned off of "used" wheels.....so with my new ones there was no big deal......

Ed

[MisterEd]

That's all I was saying as well but to the FROGMASTER or whatever the name is........not you DRTYFN

[frank6150]

I wish there was a place that specializes in powder coating around here... Best place I found is a guy that comes to work when he wants to and never wants to paint anything.

When he does pick up the gun though the work is extremely good. I am just happy to get it done and even at 425 + 100 for the rims I think it is money well spent for the happiness it will bring me.

S&B Member since '03

[DRTYFN]

Depending on the shop, it's usually about $40-50/wheel. But remember you've got to get the wheel properly beadblasted first and that's about $25/wheel.

S&B Member since '03

[MisterEd]

From American Racing Wheels warranty........."Polished and billet aluminum wheels oxidize and require regular maintenance. The finish is not covered by this warranty."

So draw your own conclusions about all wheels being coated........and DRTYFN, AMEN!!


Ed

[FrgMstr]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Detonate:
I have an FRS as well as a handheld CB. I keep both tuned to Channel 4.

If you could try and push it to get there by 9:30, we can wait at the Trail head airing down, etc.. for you guys to get there. We really wanted to be on the first trail by 9:30ish.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I would not suggest waiting on us in all honesty. Adding small kids into the mix generally does not mean we will run early.

What is an "FRS"?

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Black 2003 H2 - Just like most of yours, just possibly with less crap bolted on.

My job: http://www.HardOCP.com

[DRTYFN]

Ok, ok, ok... Opinions are like *******s... everybody's got one and the other guy's usually stinks.
Let's just agree to disagree. Let the prospective powdercoater decide(yes) whether or not(the right way) to strip the wheels first(do it) or not(you'll be sorry if you don't).

S&B Member since '03

[DRTYFN]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MisterEd:

You are free to do whatever you want, just know you don't have a monopoly on ideas about powdercoating!!


Ed

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Did I knock your "ideas"? No. All that I did was give the experience of what I've encountered to some of the folks here that asked for it.
Don't have a hissy because my information is different from your's.

S&B Member since '03

[MisterEd]

Hey, you guys do whatever you want....... I'm just saying I have powdercoated non coated items without blasting them and the coating has held just fine........and it has been my powdercoaters suggestions to do so, not mine....

Cheers to all!

Ed

[FrgMstr]

I have been told more times than once that they do need to be blasted. I was also told this by a guy that was selling 20 to 30 sets of black powder coated rims a week.

I personally feel as though one would get a much better bond with the stock H2 wheels being soda blasted first as they surely are very slick and have some sort of coating on them. And for only $75, I can afford to be wrong.

You can see mine on Saturday Det!!

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Black 2003 H2 - Just like most of yours, just possibly with less crap bolted on.

My job: http://www.HardOCP.com

[MisterEd]

Sorry, but you're wasting money on some wheels because they are not all coated.......and if your powdercoater is worth his salt, he'll tell you that.......

I've done a lot of powdercoating for a show car's engine compartment in the past as well, and we never blasted anything that was not coated, only cleaned the part. Never a problem!

Spend your money if you want but I would ask some other powdercoaters their experience....


Ed

[DRTYFN]

I did a search for powdercoating in your city and came up with zilch. So I started looking for metal fabricators and came across this:

Rideltin Powder Metal
201 East Carson Street,
Pittsburgh, PA 15219
(412) 390-1000

If that these guys don't powdercoat ask them if they know of anyone that does. And if that doesn't work try to do an MSN search for metal fabricators. Call them to see who they use for powdercoating. You're going to have to do some calling to find your answer. If you get a negative answer make sure to ask if they know where to point you.

Good luck.

S&B Member since '03

[FrgMstr]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Detonate:
It basically boils down to whether or not the rims are coated.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

It seems to me that if the rims were not coated they would oxidize very quickly in some of the saltier environments that some of the H2s are obviously kept in.

Even the coating argument aside, blasting the wheels will allow for two things that simply wiping the rims down with cleaner will not accomplish. 1. You get a "new" surface free of impurities. 2. And most importantly, after blasting you get a rougher surface area that will increase surface area and porosity of the wheel allow for a powder coating that will undoubtedly adhere better.

Now whether or not you need it to be done is up for grabs, but when I sell mine (and I will at some point), I will show them the invoice that proves they were blasted before powder coating and use it as a sales tool.

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Black 2003 H2 - Just like most of yours, just possibly with less crap bolted on.

My job: http://www.HardOCP.com