2007 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited

[MarineHawk]

A couple of things of interest to me:

It's turning diameter of 41.2 ft is only 2.3 ft tighter than the H2's 43.5 ft turning diameter.

It looks like they finally beefed up the anemic 750 lb max payload to 1,000 lbs.

How much are the Rubicon versions going to cost? I assume more than the current Rubicons, which may make them pricier than an H3.

[PARAGON]

RUT-RO......

Looks like the information on the Unlimited was released premature. The press kit info is no longer available on DC's media website.

[MarineHawk]

Originally posted by PhilD:
I do think that a diesel four door Rubi, with 6" lift and 37's would be a very cool trail vehicle, that you could drive on a daily basis.

I tend to agree. It's not mostly even the off-roading stuff to me, but the Jeeps my father and brother have had seem to break down a lot more than other vehicles. Just things like fuel pumps going out on a road trip, etc. But, I seriously don't know enough to condemn them over that type of anecdotal info.

The new four door model does look like a big improvement. It's good because there are so few vehicles out there that are more designed for off-road use than on, but which are still drivable in the city. I wonder what the sticker price will be for the Rubi version?

[PARAGON]

Originally posted by PARAGON:
RUT-RO......

Looks like the information on the Unlimited was released premature. The press kit info is no longer available on DC's media website.

Hmmm..... it's back now

[PARAGON]

All versions of the Unlimited have Dana 44s in the rear and except for the Rubi have 30 up front. The Rubi has a 44 up front also.

Other videos:

vid of it being "unearthed" today

vid of the 2WD Sahara on the road

[MarineHawk]

Also, I don't want to over generalize, but don't J##ps break often? On the J##p and other offroad forums i've looked at, for every post about someone going out and having a great time in their J##p off road, there are about 25 post about something brreaking on the way to or on the trial and needing to do some emergency repair.

[PARAGON]

Originally posted by PhilD:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
4 door Rubi soft-top variant prototype.

There all soft tops

I do like the half doors though.

Intersting to see the prototype is made of fiberglass, never given it any thought, but I guess that is the best way of doing it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Actually, the standard top is a 3 piece modular hard top. I thought it interesting that all those cool Jeeps were within a couple of hundred yards of the Gonzo. If I had known that, I might would have figured out a way to make Moab this year and try to arrive a day or two early.

[PARAGON]

Originally posted by PhilD:
The Bluetec 3.0 (which is a a CRD BTW) would be nice, but I just don't get why they won't offer it from day 1. I would have thought it would have really helped sales and helped boost the Jeep image.

Sorry, should have clarified that I was referring to the 2.8L

I think it is typical automaker games. They bring in a new item and don't give the whole cookie to begin with so that might be turnover when they introduce the newer/better things later.

[PARAGON]

and maybe get American Expedition Vehicles to do a conversion and put a Hemi in it, then put a lift with some tires.

[Aubs]

Originally posted by PhilD:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
Who else has a 4 door convertible selling in the US Market?

Hummer H1 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Exactly...

[PARAGON]

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[MarineHawk]

Originally posted by sfox:
As to Jeep breakage, they break about as often as anything in stock form. The Dana 35 rear axle is a joke just to name one thing...however, there are TONS of aftermarket options to strengthen those weak points (and many of them were eliminated simply by getting the Rubi edition).

S

Also, probably much of my generalized view arises from the fact that a lot of people who wheel with J##ps, wheel with pretty old J##ps.

[BlueTJCO]

I have wheeled my TJ for over 3 years, prob around 50 trails a summer. I wheel it hard and I have yet to bust one thing related to wheeling...

oh, and I also have that crappy D35 myself but it's done it's job so far...

[PARAGON]

[quote]Originally posted by PhilD:

Originally posted by PARAGON:
Sorry, should have clarified that I was referring to the 2.8L

Still a CRD Same one they will be offering in just about every market apart from the US

Yeah, I know, I was just referring to the fact that the 2.8L will probably not be used in the US. Up there I should have said 2.8L CRD to be more clear

[PARAGON]

NOTES:
1. GCWR = Base Weight + Maximum Trailer Weight + 150 lbs. for Driver.
2. ** AHT Trailer Tow Package not available with 3.21 Axle Ratio.
Weight Reports Used to create this Matrix:
2007 Maximum Options Weight Report

[MarineHawk]

Originally posted by PhilD:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Mooncricket:
I have wheeled my TJ for over 3 years, prob around 50 trails a summer. I wheel it hard and I have yet to bust one thing related to wheeling...

You are in the minority, we wheel with Jeeps all the time here, everything from "drag them down the trail" stock TJ's to heavily modded TJ's/YJ's/CJ's etc, as well as Rubicons. Although they don't break things often, they do break stuff often enough, but so does any vehicle you wheel hard, H2's included. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Okay, none of this is empirical evidence, but here’s a sample of what’s currently on the OCC website right now since April 6:

Re: Moab Update
The cell connection with Ron wasn't great, but it appears they had a
great day wheeling yesterday interrupted only by Wayne not quite getting
up the apparently TJ-unfriendly eight-foot ledge of an obstacle called,
I think, the "Widowmaker." And by "not quite" I mean, "flopped down
hard on his side getting wedged between some rocks."

He banged up the TJ pretty good, but after some effort, they got him
rubber side down again and he was driving off the trails under his own
power while I was talking to Ron. However he was noting some odd
shakes, vibes and noises.

Re: Moab Update
Sorry, I only asked about the Jeep.
Yes, he was fine, lol.
And Ed, I was really losing Ron when he was describing the damage but he
did catch that his hood was pretty messed up. But then, I'm rather
partial to the crumpled-up-ball-of-paper look.

Re: Moab Update
Yep, pulled the plugs, and as I recall now (this was a late-night call
so forgive my selective and belated recall) they managed to spray a good
amount of oil into the back of the TJ. They have pics and video of at
least part of these festivities so we can certainly look forward to those!

Subject: Re: [OCC] Rubi driveshaft
From my expierience with my 04 Rubicon the brakes suck. Ceramic pads to help a
bit they also create less break dust. you can get ceramic pads at advance auto
they will run anywhere from around 40- 75$ Bendix seem to be holding up well.

RE: [OCC] Rubi driveshaft
I ran with my stock drive shaft for all of 2 small trips when I did my Nth
Degree TT. Even with the correct pinion angle it vibrated everything badly.
I soon parked it and ordered a tom woods drive shaft. My 03 rubi only has a
3 inch lift. I have heard of some people having luck with it though. Fred
Ackermann ran his for 6 months before he went to a bigger lift.

Subject: Hello From Saline, KS
Stopping here for the night.
Already had some wrenching this AM and we're not even in Moab yet. Carl had to
tighten up three of his right rear studs. It's a super 44 (I think) and they
are screw on studs...not the press on ones. Slapped some lock tight on and
tighten them down. His master brake cylinder is also bad as well. Didn't have
one local, so gave Ken a call in Moab to track one down there and he found the
last one there. Carl is still driving his jeep, but we'll wait until we get to
the rockies before deciding whether to slap his jeep onto the trailer and have
him drive my jeep. Rob also had trailer brake issues this AM as well. Think he
got that fixed as well. So we got kind of a late start this morning.
We've driven almost 1,300 miles and got a little more than 700 miles left.
Hopefully get to Moab tomorrow afternoon to replace Carl's master brake
cylinder, so we can start wheeling early Monday morning.

Subject: Paragon Update
Ripped the upper control arm mount off the top of the axle housing in
the front. Welded it up and went back out

Subject: Re: [OCC] need help from experts
I'll agree with Eric..... Look for a good running Jeep, Lifted jeeps
usually =s a good by but you need to becarefully about what the person did
to it.
I'll also through this out there... If it doesn't have to Jeep, you can
consider a Suzuki Samurai.. 1/4 of the price of a jeep and you still have
the top down and great off road abilty... You can find decent ones for
under $1000 and the parts for them are almost free. (Heck there is a guy
on the Creepers Board selling 5 sami's for $2000 and 3 run and 2 are lifted
w/ 35s...)
Just a thought...

Subject: Re: [OCC] Big Dogs Ice Breaker - April 29-30
I broke my front axle on 7. Wahoo, I think. It was covered with ice
and snow, and I was getting heavy with the throttle... Pop. U-joint
(and ears).
> Randy, let me know what trails you run. I'd like to join you and see how the
> Bronco does. I haven't registered yet, but I do plan to arrive mid-afternoon
> on Friday.
>
>
> Awesome Fran I would love to run with you there , do you have any prefrence
> to the trails you do ???

[RIC-H0]

Originally posted by PARAGON:

So..... Phil...... gonna start a Jeep Wrangler X club?

I'll Join!!!

[PARAGON]

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[CO Hummer]

Originally posted by PhilD:
Pic of the four door Rubi;

Dang, that looks nice.

[MarineHawk]

Originally posted by PhilD:
There are a lot of weak points on a Wrangler, but the Rubi addresses many of these.

Interesting. I didn't know that, but I don't know much abou the later models. I had just assumed that the Rubi added the lockers and performance enhancers, but I dind't know that they had improved the weak points.