New H2 Winch Questions

[MarineHawk]

Looking at a new H2 with the adventure package with the intent to push it to design limit on the national forest trials.
I’m getting conflicting advice on winches. One dealer says this (http://www.warn.com/truck/mounting-s...r_kit_h2.shtml) is the best way to go because (1) it looks great, and (2) it affects the approach angle less than the add-on ones that protrude further. I tend to agree, but another dealer said that the best way to go was with the portable tow-hitch versions because, he says, the don’t really hurt your approach angle (seems counter-intuitive to me), and (2) you can winch forward or backward. Another factor seemingly in favor of the first option is that the tow hitches are, I believe, rated to 5,000 lbs. Isn’t putting a 9,500 lb winch on a 5,000 lb tow hitch a bad idea? (see http://www.4x4now.com/bb0197.htm).

[walc]

I'm confused.
Have you bought a Hummer, yet?

[PARAGON]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KenP:
Hey, looking at that pic I now realize what the plastic plugs are for. Duh... Glad I saved them... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>That thing really needs to get some scratchy scratchy under it.

[Dan]

He has no idea.

[ROX]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KenP:
Whoever it is needs to replace that cable with a "pretty blue line". </div></BLOCKQUOTE>She did! It matches the paint perfectly, too.

[KenP]

I heart the DRTY bumper.

[MarineHawk]

DRTY? Is that you? The seller of the famous DRTY winches? If so, let me know - I'm probably either getting one of those or one of the Warn ones and your seem to be better recommended.

[dochummer]

I think the approach angle was affected in this maneuver....

[MarineHawk]

Not yet. I've got one waiting for me. Just waiting for my draft from the Navy Fed. Credit Union, which could come anytime from now until tomorrow a.m.

[walc]

Insult my mother, all you want; but, don't dis' my wench.

[MarineHawk]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by H2 Rocks:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MarineHawk:
how will either the Ranchos or Rod Hall shocks affect the performance off road versus the ones that come standard? Is it a significant difference? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I'm putting the Rod Hall shocks on next week...if they ever return my call. Longer travel than stock, different valving than stock, external cooler bottle thing that's supposed to keep the fluid cool longer, and definitely neat looking. That's my expert opinion. The Bilsteins I had wore out after around 10k miles. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'll probably do the same. It look like I may be picking mine up this afternoon, if I can get away from the slave ship for a few hours.

[ROX]

You could always get a portable winch and strap it down in the back of your rig so it doesn't fly around. Then you're approach angle doesn't change, and you can use it when you need it.

[ROX]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Racer-X:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by dochummer:
I think the approach angle was affected in this maneuver.... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Absolutely, however in this ONE instance I would have been glad for it. I may just be that pic but it seems to be keeping the rig upright. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Thank goodness for rear-lockers. She looks really stuck.

[Adam in CO]

Doc, you missed the baboon-like screech she let out just then. It was great!

[MarineHawk]

Sounds like I'm probably wrong about the receiver mounted winches (though I was really just asking a question). If nothing else, I learned that you're a really nice guy PARAGON.

[ROX]

Drty winch bumper on slope. 12000 lb winch hidden inside with really pretty blue rope.

[It\'s a Dry Heat]

[Racer-X]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by dochummer:
I think the approach angle was affected in this maneuver.... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Absolutely, however in this ONE instance I would have been glad for it. I may just be that pic but it seems to be keeping the rig upright.

[dochummer]

I would go with the drty winch. Much better looking than the warn bumper and you can use a 12000lb winch. If you really want the option of winching from behind, just carry a warn winch in the cradle.

[DRTYFN]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MarineHawk:
Looking at a new H2 with the adventure package with the intent to push it to design limit on the national forest trials.
I’m getting conflicting advice on winches. One dealer says this (http://www.warn.com/truck/mounting-s...r_kit_h2.shtml) is the best way to go because (1) it looks great, and (2) it affects the approach angle less than the add-on ones that protrude further. I tend to agree, but another dealer said that the best way to go was with the portable tow-hitch versions because, he says, the don’t really hurt your approach angle (seems counter-intuitive to me), and (2) you can winch forward or backward. Another factor seemingly in favor of the first option is that the tow hitches are, I believe, rated to 5,000 lbs. Isn’t putting a 9,500 lb winch on a 5,000 lb tow hitch a bad idea? (see http://www.4x4now.com/bb0197.htm). </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I thought you were wrestling with this idea:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MarineHawk:
I’m debating between waiting about 2 years before I can buy afford to buy a 2-yr-old H1 with the Duramax/Allison compbo and keeping my GMC Sierra until then or being impatient and buying an H3 in the next year. I have some questions for anyone who cares to offer advice. My main concern is off-road capability, but I must admit, when I lived in Colorado, I scoffed at vehicles that couldn’t keep at least 50 mph going up the 6% grades on the mountain highways while I barreled along at 70 mph with my 6.0L. I don’t mind being a little slower, but I don’t want to be pathetic. And I don’t want to get bogged down on hills off road.

I’ve read a lot of debates here about whether the 220 HP engine is deficient or not. Does anyone have enough expertise/experience to tell me whether the 25 additional HP of the alleged 3.7L would have made the difference in getting to the top here?: http://trucktrend.com/roadtests/suv/...ge/index6.html (p. 7 of 13).
Would the automatic trans have made it easier? Did the driver not know how to shift? Would better tires have helped? Surely more power would have helped one way or the other, right?

I noticed that no dealership in my area has H3s with manual trans. Does anyone have/like one in their H3? Any drawbacks? (heard about small pedal spaces). Does the unbelievable 69:1 crawls ratio of the manual trans work much better than the still-excellent 56:1 ratio for the auto trans?
Thanks in advance. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
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And it's TRAILS.