Warn H2 winch bumper

[PARAGON]

I had a project planned and bought an new Warn winch bumper that's made for the H2. I currently also have one already installed on my H2 but was going to take the new one and modify it to my liking. My interests have drifted to UCP protection and would like to sell the bumper.

It's the fully Warn metal bumper and all the mountings but does not have the winch. I am sure it could be customized to accomodate different winches or for other projects. Brand new, box never opened.

[Dan]

ok, ok.... $6.50?

[ree]

Still a strong maybe.

[PARAGON]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SoonerBoarder:
By "Hook 'em Horns" do you mean Austin? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Nah, just celebrating for Texas. It's actually Jackson, MS.

[PARAGON]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by frank6150:
For $550 are you gonna drive it up to me? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>It's warmer down here, why don't you come this way and I lower the price.

[PARAGON]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by VTSTOMPER:
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. .. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>What, you thinking about driving down here because it's warmer or about the bumper.

Time to try that baby of yours out on a long drive.

[ree]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ree:
Can you take a several of pictures of the center area of the bumper (the one on your truck that is), below, in front of, above? Just so I can get a slightly better idea of exactly what comes out where, how big the access is at the top, and what kind of mids I might need to make to the fascia.
Thanks. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I'll get something the first part of next week. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Paragon,
No need anymore. I just got the install instructions in Word form from Warn. The pictures in it provide enough detail.

For others, this picture shows how it all fits together before adding the bumper cover.

[ree]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DRTYFN:
I would highly advise you to stay away from the Mile Marker winches. All of the Hummer techs that I've spoken with on this subject have offered the advice to NOT use a hydraulic winch on the H2. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Preface: I don't know the details of any business doings/misdoings between you and MM since I haven't read enough old posts to figure it out. So I'm not going to discount what you've said because of this.

If there is a real problem with the MM hydraulics on the H2, I'd love to know about it now. But so far, I've seen little substantive arguments against their use.

I did see you post a complaint about the cluth lever failing on one.

But everything I've ever seen about the hydraulics being bad seems purely anectodal/hearsay. I've seen all sorts of people claiming that they cause PS pump failure, but I've never hear them say it was their PS pump that their winch broke.

I know AMG fails to warrant the PS pumps on H1's if a MM hydraulic is used, but this isn't proof that the winches are the problem. It is a mighty nice way for them to save on warantee costs. But I've seen a number of videos with H1's sans MM winches and sick sounding PS pumps. Maybe the PS pumps aren't so hot on the H1's.

So why specifically are the Hummer tech's advising against it?

[Dan]

$5

[PARAGON]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by drmiles:
How much do you need to get for the bumper
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>Well...... today is my tenth wedding anniversary, sooo.......

Is the coathanger to test how deep the water is?

[ree]

Okay, it sounds like a big ole maybe. I thing the MM can be mounted so that the freespool lever is on the side instead of the top. I sort of wonder if the end of the speed lever can be hacked off and a push rod can be linked to the end and routed out the front.

I'll have to ask some more questions of the MM folks to know if it's a fit.

I really want to avoid (a) a cradle and (b) an more expensive bumper (cough), so I'm probably going to have to find a way to make the warn bumper work. So I'm probably a strong fallback buys on this. I hate to be really impulsive, so give me a bit more time to ponder.

[ree]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by drmiles:
Doch YES I have a stealth rack. Here is a pic of my rack! With XTC light bar on front </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
And your kid driving??

[KenP]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alec W:
I got some real “roll eyes” action last night when I explained the $140 I spent for the wireless winch remote I needed so I don’t have to open the hood twice a year


Congats on 10 years, we are at about 9 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Please let me know how the install goes.

[frank6150]

For $550 are you gonna drive it up to me?

[Klaus]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alec W:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by frank6150:
I'm interested P. How much you looking to get for it? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I'm looking to buy an FN Five-Seven, and I just noticed the cost of the ammo!

Considering offers. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Fixed </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Fixed again.

[ree]

Paragon,
What's the dimensions of the area where the winch mounts? I'm considering alternative winches and Warn hasn't gotten back to me with this info since they're on vacation.

[DRTYFN]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ree:
Actually, if the area is nice and rectangular just those dimensions, erring to the small side and notes about any irregularitis/fins/etc. If it's more irregular, whatever you can/want to do for specing it out.

I'm considering a milemarker hydraulic. I don't yet have dimensions on them either (I wasn't planning this shopping until next month), but drum lengths are comparable to the 9.5XP and pictures make it look like a possibility. So if you know that this will or won't work, that'd be good too. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

All(I'm pretty sure) winches have a standard foot print. Your main concern is going to be the dimensions from to the left & right of the bolt holes.
I would highly advise you to stay away from the Mile Marker winches. All of the Hummer techs that I've spoken with on this subject have offered the advice to NOT use a hydraulic winch on the H2.

I'd recommend going with the Warn Tabor series winches. Great product and very reliable.
The 9K & the 12K have the same dimensions, just different gears.
http://www.warn.com/truck/winches/value_series.shtml

[PARAGON]

Here is the only picture I could find from my installation. I lost the hard drive on my notebook and don't have access to those pictures right now.

The cradle itself is not limited on width. The width is determined by the frame members of the truck and are just over 24".

The bumper part that you see from the outside is an overlay or veneer. It provides no structural support, so what you see in the picture below is the strength and what you would be mounting to. You could make the necessary cuts or holes in the metal bumper to accomodate different controls.

The opening in the top of the bumper to view the drum is 9.5" wide X 3.5" deep. From the bottom of the cradle mounting to the inside of the top of the bumper overlay is 7", so the winch can be roughly 7" tall.

If the milemarker is 10" tall and over 24" wide, it would be a tough fit without cutting the top away more from frame member to frame member and exposing all of the winch instead of just the drum as with the Warn setup.

[PARAGON]

On that site is the reason I rushed to get the bumper. Each year warn goes up on their prices. That site says the prices are 5% higher that what the website shows or about $25 more. It doesn't make feel quite so bad

[drmiles]

Ok 72 shipping 400 for the bumper = 472

How much do you need to get for the bumper
(since drty wont sell me one of his)

Dochummer YES I have a stealth rack. Here is a pic of my rack! With XTC light bar on front