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Old 01-29-2005, 03:56 AM
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I've noticed some interest in the express sunroof on some of the newer H2 for '03's. Here's a link to a product that may work if any are interested.

http://www.autoloc.com/detail.lasso?itemid=WC1000 Talk to Tom @ ext 312

Got it today, installed & works GREAT! One touch & it opens all the way. One touch & it closes. One more touch & it tilts open. Just touch anywhere while it's traveling & it stops there. Great upgrade for only $40 bucks plus shipping. Here's pics & some hints to shorten install time. Oh I need to add to the install instructions the processor is small enough to just lay inside the overhead console. Enough foam it won't rattle. <span class="ev_code_RED">My H2 is an '03. Confirm the wiring in your H2 is the same before making connections.</span>
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Great job LV! Gotta get me that asap...
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Hate to brag but My point proven by DA MAN Himself Las Vegas or by His friends
Jonahs The Great. And yes Jonahs I exepect brownie points but they are honest points as this is the advice i would give even in private to any who asked.
Thanks Jonahs and You other 6 or more and you now who You are and you all receive acolades at various times. This includes You to DRTY.
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Old 01-31-2005, 07:57 AM
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Okay...so I am feeling left out...

I have a 05 SUV and one of the first bitches I had was that the sunroof did not have an express open or close. Its a pain it the ass since it is quite a large sunroof and takes a LONG time to open and close while you are waiting there.

Is this somthing I am suppose to have??

My 02 Denali had an express open sunroof and I thought it was kinda odd that the H2 didnt.
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I just got mine about 5 mins. ago! I will install it tonight and let you know how it goes.
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Lost Wages, I wouldn’t worry too much about the “convenience” stops. You might even call them inconvenience stops. The first stop is about 3 inches from full open and the second is about 1 inch from full open. Now I could see if the first stop was 1/3 way and second was half way… that would be nice.

Now watch, everyone else’s probably does work that way and mine is just F’ed up.

Anyhow, I think after reading these posts, I’ll get one of these things. I hate holding my arm up for more than 3 seconds… it makes me sooo dizzy.
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Checked with AutoLoc this morning. They talked with their tech support and assure me this will work with our sunroofs. Also, the little processor is only about 1" thick so hopefully it will fit inside the roof console making a very easy install. I ordered one and will post the results with install info later this week.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by H2Finally:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LasVegas:
<span class="ev_code_RED">Minor revision to wiring installation. See first post of this thread. For those that have installed per first instructions you do not have to change unless you want to. Will work fine as wired.</span> </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Vegas, is the Tan switched? Is the orange garage opener power always ON? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>H2Finally....The Tan wire to your sunroof is switched. The garage door transmitter wire is always hot. But you still couldn't operate the sunroof with the ign off (except during RAP power) because the module/motor is not powered. Your AutoLoc would only be sending a signal to an unpowered module/motor.
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Dear Taz,

Thanks for clarifying and owning up. This helps, since I just ordered mine. That Vegas guy, he's alright, huh?

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:

Limit Switches
The limit switches are within the sunroof actuator motor and supply data. The multiple data combinations allow the sunroof actuator motor to track the position of the sunroof window.

Sunroof Actuator Motor
The sunroof actuator motor contains the logic and is serviceable as one unit. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks P. Now I'm really confused.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by sfox:
.......BTW we don't have a sunroof so I have no vested interest in this.

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Thanks Vegas
My 05 does not have express sunroof. Post any other info You find out.

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Sunroof Description and Operation
Power Sunroof System Components
The power sunroof system is a tilt/slide style, consisting of the following components:

Sunroof actuator, control module included
Sunroof switch
Sunroof window
Sunshade
The rail and track assembly upon which the sunroof window rides
Power supply for the sunroof actuator motor and Retained Accessory Power (RAP) relay: SUNROOF 25 A fuse
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Power Sunroof Operation
The power sunroof will operate with the ignition switch turned to Accessory or RUN. Once the ignition switch is turned to OFF, from RUN, the sunroof will continue to operate until any door is open or when the Retained Accessory Power (RAP) has timed out. For a complete description of the RAP operation, refer to Retained Accessory Power (RAP) Description and Operation in Retained Accessory Power.

Use the rocker type sunroof switch to command the sunroof to :

Open
Closed
Vent
Pressing the sunroof switch rearward, the sunroof window will slide from:

Vent position to the closed position
Closed position to the open position
Pressing the sunroof switch forward, the sunroof window will slide from:

Open position to the closed position
Closed position to the vent position
To Slide Open
The slide open function will work when the sunroof window is in the closed or partially open position. To slide open the power sunroof, press and hold the sunroof switch rearward. This will apply an input to the sunroof actuator motor from the sunroof switch open contacts through the sunroof switch open signal circuit. The constant input, allows the sunroof actuator motor to control the opening of the sunroof window. From the closed position the sunroof window will lower slightly, then slide open, rearward, with the sunroof sunshade between the roof and the headliner, stopping at the comfort stop position.

From the comfort stop position, an open request will slide the sunroof window approximately (1 in) 2.54 cm further open. The next open request will slide the sunroof window completely to the full open position.

To Close
To close the power sunroof from the:

Open position -- press and hold the sunroof switch forward. This will apply an input to the sunroof actuator motor from the sunroof switch close contacts through the sunroof switch close signal circuit. The sunroof switch close input at the sunroof actuator motor needs to be constant, switch pressed, allowing the sunroof actuator motor to control the motor to drive the sunroof window forward, until it reaches the closed position. To close the sunshade, this will have to be manually slid closed.
Vent position -- press and hold the sunroof switch rearward. This will apply an input to the sunroof actuator motor from the sunroof switch open contacts through the sunroof switch circuit. The sunroof switch open input to the sunroof actuator motor needs to be constant, switch pressed, to allow the motor to tilt the sunroof window down to the fully closed position.
To Vent Open
To open the power sunroof to the vent position from the closed position, press and hold the sunroof switch forward. This will apply an input to the sunroof actuator motor from the sunroof switch close contacts through the sunroof switch close signal circuit. The sunroof switch close input to the sunroof actuator motor needs be constant, switch pressed, to allow the sunroof actuator motor to control the motor to tilt the rear of the sunroof window upward to the vent position.

Limit Switches
The limit switches are within the sunroof actuator motor and supply data. The multiple data combinations allow the sunroof actuator motor to track the position of the sunroof window.

Sunroof Actuator Motor
The sunroof actuator motor contains the logic and is serviceable as one unit.
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so i take it that the sunroofs are factory.i had my parts guy compare parts from 03'04and05 the only difference was that in 05 they changed the motor and sunroof control module.but if i go to tecline and check the description and operation and repair procedures there is no mention of an express open option?
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Jonahs
Got mine installed and works perfectly on 2005.
My first stop is as mentioned previouly. 3" from open and then touch it and it opens the rest of the way. Weird
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I'll put it this way tower. There are only about 6 or 8 guys on this site that I would do something the exact way they told Me to with out guestion and if they were not sure they would send Me to one of the others to ask them.
Jonahs is top draw in any of Our books who have come to follow His directions. Follow it as He describes and do not deviate unless You discover a particular problem isolated to Your situation. Then when that happens let Vegas know He will look into it or post and one of the others will already know or they will look it up. I would not list them myself as I would be afraid to leave someone out but, by the time You follow this site for 6 months You will see who to pay attention to. But, right now you asked about Vegas and listen to Him if he finds a better way he will revise which i notice He just did on sun roof install. So there you go My opion and until proven different I'l follow My on advice.
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Thanks TAZ. Help is what forums are all about. BTW, I emailed you a link to a great site I found for auto electrical parts up in Reno. Should have everything you need for your light bar project and any future elecrical projects.
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Dear JMV210,

I haven't put one of these in, but will order one today. But it sounds like you are having a resistance problem. This could come from a few places. The sunroof might need lubrication or have a loose or bent part. There could be dirt or crushed leaves in the mechanism. The sensitivity on the WC1000's load sensor might be set too high or faulty. Not having seen one, I don't know if it is adjustable. You may want to ask the manufacturer. Otherwise, just tell them it is defective and ask for a replacement.


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OK, I might of missed this ....but will it work on a 2004? If so I'll order one today!
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So vette & tim. Just in case I decide to try this mod, one touch closes the roof and if you touch it again it does the tilt open?? I'm pretty sure the product I found will work for open/close but just wondering about the tilt open part with express.
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