GM WONT REPAIR MY TRANSMISSION

[Maj.Drew]

Ok.. so here is the latest from GM customer service - THEY WILL NOT WARRANTY THE TRANSMISSON AS I HAVE INSTALLED AN AFTERMARKET SUPERCHARGER. THEY STATE THERE IS NOTHING DEFECTIVE WITH THEIR TRANSMISSION.

KENP... ANY ADVICE???

[tower]

Ditto H-Doggie
Ditto Roxie

Look, if you want to go big on tires (and especially wheels), unless you’re a mall mouse, you need to beef up the suspension. Otherwise, you'll break tie rods, wear CV joints, etc.

If you torque up with a S/C, you need to beef the tranny (which is pretty hard to do on an H2). If you cant, you will wear through the drivetrain a little faster.

Personally, I think you got screwed. 7k miles on an '05 tranny is BS. I don't care if you have a jet under the hood (unless you drive like a maniac, of course). So suck it up, be really nice to a few dealers and see if anyone is willing to play with you. If not, suck it up and shell it out.

THIS THREAD IS NOW OVER!!!

[drmiles]

Pattern, I just had my 2nd and 4th gears go out in my 03 H2. No supercharger here!!!

Maybe you can show a pattern of transmission failures.

[Maj.Drew]

Well of course I didnt buy the Magnuson Power Train Warranty... hell I got my supercharger from them for only $3400.00.

And yes, I am still pissed at GM.

And yes I do understand the logic. But riddle me this... so lets say my axle goes (God forbid), or my spline shaft cooks... or anything drive train related... can GM possibly differentiate with reasonable certainty what caused the failure??? Answer - Hell No!!!!

O-rings on a space shuttle.....

Anyhow... My dealer didnt help matters, when they said " I dont know what caused the failure... he's got a supercharger on it... could that be it?" Morons!

Anyhow... I am spending a crap load of money to get the trans rebuilt by Lingenfelters hot shots. Now GM can say.. well now everything Trans related isnt under waranty. Hmmmm so when my shift selector fails... maybe its from the trans, that was caused by the supercharger.

OK.. enough whinning!!!

Just went and test drove an LR3... not bad.... maybe you just might see my H2 on Ebay soon.

Maybe I will defect to the Land Rover Forums.

Damn, I sure wish Tucker was around... I wonder what kind of SUT/SUV/SVA he would have dreamed up?

I did get a in touch with a few of the execs at GM... and I did file a complaint with my States Attorney General, and I did contact SEMA... oh what a busy day I have had.

I will keep you up to date as to the progress. However, it sounds like the guys at

rossler transmissionis really know there stuff. Apparently they just did the H2 for those Harley guys on Discovery - Orange County Choppers... I guess it was on this week.

I wonder what I will blow up next.... any ideas?

Maybe know since the trans is done, I can change my pulley size and make more power.....

[tower]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">GM is under no obligation to cover this.

Suggestion: See if you can get your dealer to split the cost or provide a “manager's discretionary discount.” Otherwise, bite the bullet and work some O.T. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ooh, ooh, does that make me correct too, Jonahs?

[ROX]

I've noticed 2nd is slipping in mine. No SC here either. I'm sure I'm next on the list of 2-4 going out. I've just been waiting for it too happen, but hopefully it will last until after Moab. It's such a long trip it has me concerned though.

[Boar-Ral]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Maj.Drew:
Well here is the update...

Decided to keep my H2... just love it too much with the Supercharger. I did look at the Excursion Diesel though.. damn I wish the H2 had the diesel. Hey maybe I will look at the H1 Alpha.... $140K... not bad.. yeah right. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
A day does not go by that I wish I still owned my Ford Excursion diesel. But when I owned it, I wanted an H2. The feeling will pass, I hope.

[H2TECH]

I have replaced or repaired numerous transmissions for the concern you describe. This is a common failure with this trans. We have installed 10-15 superchargers and these customers are not light on the pedal either. Some of these vehicles have close to 60k and we installed them back in 2003. I doubt the trans. failure was because of the supercharger. Im sure upgrading your trans. with a high quality rebuild will help ensure that the trans is more then capable of handling the added torque. I suppose if the dealer that installed it would like to keep you as a customer then they would look long term at the help they provide you now. If you bought the supercharger over the counter and the trans failed and then you took it to a dealer then I would understand their hesitation.

[Boar-Ral]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by GeorgeSSSS:
Boar-Ral:

I don't know how it works in Canada, but I have seen deals in the U.S. where the initial warranty comes from the factory and the extension comes from a third party insurance company. If that is the case for you, it seems to me you should check both contracts because the third party wouldn't necessarily be bound by the factory's promise to cover a supercharged vehicle.

Hope this helps you avoid problems,

George SSSS </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I will discuss that with them before I proceed with any work. I believe that my extended warranty is actually honoured by General Motors, but I cannot be certain, as I have sold every vehicle I have owned before the extended warranty took effect. Thanks for the heads up.

[RIC-H0]

Had my transmission replaced under warranty, it would stay stuck in 2nd gear. They actually replaced it with a factory rebuilt trans.(all new components, but used case. No problems since. You may wanna sk the dealer if they would be willing to sell you a rebuilt at their cost.

Sorry to hear the news, but good luck!

Ric-H2

[Maj.Drew]

OK, SO now I am pissed!!!! I had a Magnason Supercharger installed on my 2005 H2, and put about 7000 miles on it. Last week, my transmission wouldnt shift into second. Took it to my local H2 dealer who said 2nd and 4th grears are gone.

So now the good part. GM wont fix it, and wants Magnason to pay for it. So far I have been without my H2 for 10 days, and no one will fix it.

This sucks!!!! GM sucks.....

Any ideas anyone.... I have a call into Hummer customer service.

This is bull****.

[partsguy]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Maj.Drew:
Well of course I didnt buy the Magnuson Power Train Warranty... hell I got my supercharger from them for only $3400.00.

And yes, I am still pissed at GM.

And yes I do understand the logic. But riddle me this... so lets say my axle goes (God forbid), or my spline shaft cooks... or anything drive train related... can GM possibly differentiate with reasonable certainty what caused the failure??? Answer - Hell No!!!!

O-rings on a space shuttle.....

Anyhow... My dealer didnt help matters, when they said " I dont know what caused the failure... he's got a supercharger on it... could that be it?" Morons!

Anyhow... I am spending a crap load of money to get the trans rebuilt by Lingenfelters hot shots. Now GM can say.. well now everything Trans related isnt under waranty. Hmmmm so when my shift selector fails... maybe its from the trans, that was caused by the supercharger.

OK.. enough whinning!!!

Just went and test drove an LR3... not bad.... maybe you just might see my H2 on Ebay soon.

Maybe I will defect to the Land Rover Forums.

Damn, I sure wish Tucker was around... I wonder what kind of SUT/SUV/SVA he would have dreamed up?

I did get a in touch with a few of the execs at GM... and I did file a complaint with my States Attorney General, and I did contact SEMA... oh what a busy day I have had.

I will keep you up to date as to the progress. However, it sounds like the guys at

rossler transmissionis really know there stuff. Apparently they just did the H2 for those Harley guys on Discovery - Orange County Choppers... I guess it was on this week.

I wonder what I will blow up next.... any ideas?

Maybe know since the trans is done, I can change my pulley size and make more power..... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Welcome to the lawyers world"It's not my fault someone made me put on the s/c.Not my fault I didn't reseach it first.
Christ no wonder kids are f ed up nobody takes
the blame for there own actions anymore.

[partsguy]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by GMPartsGuy:
Check your S/C certification for manufacturer compliance. In order for the SEMA act to apply, the component has to pass the manufacturer's maximum specification. If it doesn't say approved for use by GM and will not void your warranty, it most certainly will. This has to do with powertrain components which increase the hp/torque. Don't blame GM for covering its own ass. Warranty costs are high as it is and ALL manufacturers are cracking down on modifications. Most people don't think about the whole picture when they add power, that the u-joints might snap, the trans might burn up, that the axles are too small. If you're going to blame someone, blame yourself for short-sightedness. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Don"t sugar coat it.

[Maj.Drew]

Well here is the latest update.... GM says no way!!!! Since I have added a supercharger they will not warranty anything drive train related. What a crock.. after all these years of working with GM as a supplier, and buying their crap.. I have to now pay for it on my own.

I spoke to Lingfelter, and they referred me to Rossler Trans in Ohio who builds all their H2 transmissions. So, what they have told me is that they rebuild the transmissions to handle the power of the superchargers.

Total cost of Rebuild $3000.00
Lets add in the labor for the dealer of lets say $700.00
incendental stuff of lets say $500.00.

DAMN GM!



After further research, http://elcova.com/groupee/forums/a/t...1/r/2691091411


I have also found that Hummer has had an existing problem with the 2-4 band going on the tranmissions that dont have a supercharger on them. Hmmmmm this is the exact same thing on my trans that went. Oh lucky GM.. they dont have to pay for another great and wonderful engineering job they have done!!!

No wonder sales are slipping.

[LasVegas]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">OK.. enough whinning!!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yeah..that would be nice. People here are trying to help you. You've got a nice rig with a lot of mods so don't throw it away over one issue. And if you got your supercharger for $3400 you're not to bad off even after the transmission rebuild. Suck it up Maj.

[kdio]

When you installed your supercharger did you buy the $200.00 powertrain warranty from Magna charger? If you did then Magna Charger should cover it.

[HUMMERcustoms.com/TAZ]

I'm very sorry to hear of Your trouble.

I had a Buddy who blew His transfer case up by rocking from forward to reverse rapidly and the manual tells You not to do this as damage may occur. They came and got it out of the mud hauled 70 miles, put in new transfer case no charge and they did not have to by Him breaking the expressed do not do rule. This is another reason i fel i can trust My dealer. I would recommend them to anyone within reasonable distance of Little Rock, AR. The Landers Hummer seem to take a great deal of pride in the Hummer and the people who but them from them.
So far My dealer has been very nice about My plans to install SC. If I let them do it they will do it no charge as a listed sponsor on My show board. They said off the record, everyone knows how this secret could works, I could still get screwed, that they will take care of Me. I have brought them some press and I just reminded them that I can bring them some bad press also. I still have the plan to purchase a monstered up trany on My own not counting on Dealer. I figured I may as well be prepared mentaly. The Dealer knows what I'm doing and has His approved along with discussion with Ser. Manager. They both said it can be taken care of it just has to be written up properly and while milage is right it is no skin off thier noses to get Me warranty support. They even said that if i get into extended they will take care of write up and if needed they will reinstall factory intake if warranty people want to look at it before paying.
It really appears that it is with in the power of the Dealer to help if they want to. They control the info sent in on warranty so they have full control of the situation. I'm just hoping My Dealer is as good as they act. I have had no reason not to doubt them. I found My diff fluids a little below spec. and they said next week they are going to drain all fluids even pull trany pan and look everything over. Oh and when they go into rear diff.they will go back with My really nice diff. cover i got from Phil no charge sense they have to take it off to inspect rear gears. They know I'm serious about the competitions and I'm apparently the first to take it seriouly and they are doing some other installs for free. They want to be appart of the show thing and most of these decisions have been made by Ser. Manager. I guess there are good Dealers and bad just like in any business. I think the thing is I consulted them before doing anything and they appreciated it.
TAZ

[LasVegas]

Maj. Drew.... I'm not an expert on superchargers/warranty but I happened to be researching installing one. I spoke with James at Kenne Bell Supercharger & he said to check out the SEMA Act, wherein he says they cannot void a warranty on anything including transmission UNLESS they can prove the problem was caused by the supercharger. The burden of proof is on them, not you. Worth checking out. It's called the SEMA ACT.

[Fever]

Warranty Help Hope this helps. Get your dealer to put the warranty denial in writing for your records.

[HUMMERcustoms.com/TAZ]

I visited with someone yesterday about the $200 Magneson warranty and it is worthless if any other mod was done while, before, or after SC was added. Like headers, cold air intake, and many other things that can be added to engine that should have nothing to do with SC. This info came from someone that everyone on here respects to no end so i will not be spending the $200 on additional warranty as He said it is a joke. I have header catback sys. and other things. My best warranty right now is i have a dealer that apparently is determined to look after Me as long as he can and I have not pulled out a 44 mag and shot holes in the block or trany. Like I mentioned the Dealer has within His power to get a person covered by how He writes problem up and turns it in. Mine said they will take care of Me and all I can do at this point is trust them for reasons mentioned already. I do believe though that it had a lot to do with including them in the loop of what i was doing and the reason I was doing it. Maybe it is just My country boy AWWW shucks but, i have seen them put there money where their mouth is on several occasions.
I hope very much you get some help with this problem.
I'm just putting back the money to replace trany in case I do not get the help in the long run.
TAZ