winch

[Hummer Guy]

I don't remember--who does AM General use for the H1 winch--Milemarker? or Warn...

[GeneseeMtn]

I just bought that same winch (MM E12,000) for My H1. Check http://www.angryiron.com, they had the best price.

[Harley]

Thanks, Ron, I'd be most indebted w/ photos...

K

[Beastmaster]

Hehe...you've hit on one of the more debated questions out there.

Bang for the buck - Many people agree that the MileMarker E12000 winch gives one of the best bangs for the buck. It's 12000lb capacity and it's light weight makes it a very good choice.

Approach angle - There's two mounting methods that won't detract from the angle (much).

1) The stock MileMarker HMMWV/H1 mounting kit. This will keep nearly all of the approach angle.
2) Make a custom front bumper receiver mount. With front bumpers going for 50 bucks on EBay, you can make your own receiver mount for pretty cheap...far less than the stock Milemarker variant.

Now, I can say one thing about electric. You better have a really good method of disabling the solenoid box. There has been reports (in the general 4x4 world, Hummers included) of vandalism where someone freespools the winch line out, attaches it to something immovable, (rear bumper comes to mind), and shorts out the solenoid box. This then activates the winch, and then it literally crunches anything in the cable path.

Hence my logic of using a removeable carrier type of winch.

Hope this helps,
Steve

[Beastmaster]

Many people have run synthetic on their MileMarkers with no issues at all.

-Steve

[Harley]

DRTY, is there a mounting kit for the "Tabor" (like the hidden one) for the H1? How will it affect angle of approach?

I drug the sh*t out of both front and back bumpers a couple of times today and it was on "Oklahoma Bumps"... nothing extreme...

K

[package deal]

i am wanting to buy a winch for my h1. wanted to know if anyone has had anyexperience with this. i would like one that i can switch from front to back via a receiver hitch. where can i order one for the best price and what size do i need. thanks in advance for your help

[RonB]

I wonder if this new winch would fit in the Mile-Marker bumper? It looks just like the E-12k. I like the quality of Warn products.

RB

[Beastmaster]

Well, it all depends on the thickness of the receiver that's going to be sacrificed.

If it's thicker than 3/8", I'm going to have to sub it out. Either way, it's a good start to have it ready to go.

Once that's done, I'll slowly acquire a winch mounting kit, then the winch itself.

[Harley]

OK, I'll display my ignorance publicly with this question...

1. Which winch (for the H1) do you feel is the best "bang for the buck" so to speak.

2. Which set up will detract the least from the approach angle?

3. I don't get to wheel very often because I can't take too much time away from the business right now, (and for that matter, my winching experience was with an F250 pulling people out of ditches for spare change in high school in Oregon to and from skiing).

4. I've read back through all the threads here and on the "other" hummer website. I've pretty much decided I'd prefer to go w/ an electric rather than a hydraulic setup.

K

[Hummer Guy]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Hummer Guy:
I don't remember--who does AM General use for the H1 winch--Milemarker? or Warn... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>One would think you should know that being a salesperson and especially with that monicker you gave yourself. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I just couldn't remember since we used both brands at my last academy. We had to replace several remotes for our MM, and one had to be completely replaced. Unfortunately there isn't much winching done in the showroom -- but thanks for the brush-up...I'm sure there's lots of things I could learn from everybody here.

[Beastmaster]

Well, that's the glory of running a removable winch. It won't detract from the approach angle when it's off.

Dave Breggin's got a design (that I'm getting ready to copy) of a receiver mounted winch. I've got a spare bumper all ready to weld and use as a test mule.

For a visual example:
http://www.humvee.net/hall/breg2.html

-Steve

[PARAGON]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Hummer Guy:
I don't remember--who does AM General use for the H1 winch--Milemarker? or Warn... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>One would think you should know that being a salesperson and especially with that monicker you gave yourself.

[RonB]

here's one more from the top. You'll notice a large guage blue wire -- the supplied cable seemed a bit on the flimsy side so I got the beefiest stuff I could from a local sterio install place. I also had to shorten that radiator hos on the top -- it was rubbing on the top of the wires.

Again, I am not saying one winch is better than the other (the Warn seems beefier, and it's cost reflects this) I just didn't want to sacrafice approach angle or break my piggy bank. Good luck!

Ron B

[Hummer Guy]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by package deal:
i am wanting to buy a winch for my h1. wanted to know if anyone has had anyexperience with this. i would like one that i can switch from front to back via a receiver hitch. where can i order one for the best price and what size do i need. thanks in advance for your help </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'd look at any WARN winch. How much do you think you'll be switching from front to back? Where I used to work we had an H2 that we had to take on and off if we wanted to use it. Do-able with one person, but easier with two. Plus, the connections tend to get muddied up when you switch back and forth. We had 4 H1s and all had front winches. I'd try just getting the factory-style-front winch, unless you really needed to switch it to the back.

[RonB]

sorry about my spelling!

[DRTYFN]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RonB:
On a side note, MileMarker told me that they have not fully tested synthetic rope on their winches. Rope flattens out when there is weight on it and puts more pressure on the sides of the drum (more friction + more heat). I guess the Warn would be the same?

Ron B </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Warn used to say the same crap. Now they sell synthetic line. Pretty funny, since I knew they were looking into selling it when they told me that.

[Harley]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Hence my logic of using a removeable carrier type of winch. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You mean like "Package Deal" at the first of this string was asking?
Can a mount like you suggested to him not detract from approach angle?

Electric still seems like the best way, right?

I'm humbled here everytime I ask a question...

Thanks,
K

[Harley]

So, did he weld a reciever onto the front of his truck to come out the middle hole?

K

[DRTYFN]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Beastmaster:
You can do a MileMarker E12000 with the winch mounting receiver plate.

I've been waiting for someone else to do it. Now someone has and wrote something on it.

</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

After much testing with the MileMarker 12K winches I think I'm qualified to say BUY A WARN!!! I had problems with the clutch handles not releasing or engaging properly more than a few times.

Warn has a new line of winches called TABOR. Don't let the Value Series part fool you. They're a really solid performing winch. I'm using them in our winch bumpers.