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07-25-2005, 04:23 PM
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Easy there hoss. Liberty's that are wheeled get thier respect. I have wheeled wih many, just like anything mostly determined by driver.
This post is for my STOCK Rubicon vs any STOCK H2.
The fact of the matter is:
Most trails are cut by jeeps and wheeled by jeeps, therefore they are not "wide vehicle friendly"
LWB has advantages at some obstacles
SWB has advantages at some obstacles
IFS is great for street ride
SFA is great for offroad
I am locked.
You are not.
I can on and on and it won't matter because people belive what they believe, and when they are proven wrong they will make an excuse to back up thier claim.
so in short:
anyone that believes that a STOCK RUBICON is not a MORE CAPABLE OFF-ROAD out of the box, hardcore, fancy-schmancy, wheeling gift of the gods that is by matter of pure physics BETTER than an H2 never will.
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07-22-2005, 11:43 AM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MR Tool:
Come on.
I will take off my 1 inch body lift, my 1 inch motor mount spacers I made by hand, and the aftermarket engine and transfer case skid I have on. I also have a better than stock front bumper I can remove if you insist.
STOCK.
Sticky video for 1 year.
Do I need to turn my lockers off??
I hope that I explained the modifacations to my Jeep have done simple enough for ANYONYE that may hav purchased a vehicle with 4WD and wheels can understand.
Just know this: I can "undo" the "minor" mods which have given me ZERO advantage over a "stock" H2 or H3 or any damn H anything.
Please. Grow up. Learn.
There is only 1.
I am not "hating" (I don't give a %^#@ if you wheel a chevette, just wheel it)
you have posted a video.
Someone is willing to speak out for H2
I am willing to speak out for Jeep.
ANYONE?????? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I have wheeled them all H1,,H2,,H3,,Rubicons,,and my own Built CJ
I have said it on this board and on the Jeep boards I frequent.
Comparing an H2 to a Jeep is assanine. Any one who does is ignorant to the function of both.
A tight snowmobile trail in the U.P. of Michigan will of course be more enjoyable in a Jeep vs a H2
A 20 + hr ride with family and gear to MOAB then a couple days wheeling in 117 degree heat will of course be more enjoyable in a H2 vs a Jeep.
The Hitler thing might of been a little overboard,,but the way the automotive industry right know,,,It does bother me that Jeep is now owned by "The Germans"
There are thousands of Jeepers on MJ,,and other Jeep forums that are just frothing at the mouth to be able to post a pic/vid of a H2 stuck or broke.
Get the **** over it
HURF
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07-25-2005, 05:15 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DennisAJC:
Hey I just noticed they're sharing the same frame as the TJ and YJ.  </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
ROTFLMAO 
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07-22-2005, 05:29 PM
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You guys are really pushing it with this stuff. Get back on topic or this thread is dead. 
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07-22-2005, 10:59 AM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MR Tool:
... then continued to spread more propoganda.
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Other than the video, what propaganda was there? Maybe I missed something but all I saw was guys posting the real facts to try to clear things up. Everyone that went to the Jeep forum was far more polite than the jeepers that have come here in the past to start their bashing 
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07-23-2005, 04:57 AM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MountainMan:
The H3 will be a beast to contend with. It already is showing what its lighter weight can do for it. They took a few over the Rubicon and the videos were quite nice. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I agree the H3 will be another contender.
Got links to these videos?????
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07-25-2005, 06:30 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by hoss75:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">The biggest factor between these vehicles ability is down to the driver anway. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
That's true with alot of vehicles... I've wakled through obstacles in my KJ that had a stock Rubi stuck. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Wakled? Is that like waddling? Are you obese?
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07-22-2005, 09:33 AM
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Come on.
ANYONE??????
summary:
You will lose.
a Quote from the producer of film
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Posted 07-22-05 04:11 PM
That's the whole point Mr.Tool,
The video WAS the response BECAUSE your guys DID crossed the line!
We pretty much hit breaking point watching and hearing or rigs get slammed for a few years now.
All the illwishes, misinformation, middle fingers, vandalism, you name it, we've gotten it.
The video was designed to make you feel what we go through. We are tormented not because of the people we are, but what we drive.
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yep that is what I got.
cliky for the "truth"
pancakes for idiots.
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07-28-2005, 05:33 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by CO Hummer:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by GoldenH2:
nice job Nailer.
Not all of us Hummer owners are a55es. I appreciate a good rock climber regardless of who makes it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">
Originally posted by Nailer341:
"how many snatch blocks does it take to pull out a h2 with a 9500# warn winch?"
http://elcova.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/5106011751/m/7...811071431#2811071431
"have a look at this speed bump leading to the mall"
http://elcova.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/5106011751/m/7...551040431#7551040431
"care to follow? "
http://elcova.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/5106011751/m/6...161040431#8161040431
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Yeah right there, GoldenShower. He's a great guy. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I didnt say he was a great guy but unlike you I am not going to be an idiot just because we have differnt "toys" that we use for a sport that we both enjoy.
No wonder you get so many trols over here.
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07-22-2005, 11:03 AM
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You make the pancake batter and add fresh blueberries....
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07-26-2005, 03:03 AM
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What he said!
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07-22-2005, 01:18 PM
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Mr. Stool:
"Part of my economy" that's code for Union Thug!
"If a bully want's to beat up my sister then I will defend her." I didn't know that Jerry's Kid was your sister!
We get trolls from all makes & model of vehicle and some of them end up sticking around to share their experience with the forums...but with your first post being a pissing match, I doubt you could add much to this site.
The fact remains, the video of the tie-rod break was stolen from here and posted on EVERY Jeep site out there. Your forums are full of US VS. THEM attitudes, so don't even begin to preach here.
Do a search for the word "Tahoe"...does it come up with the GM vehicle? No. Does it bring up links for info on the Lake Tahoe Resort? No. It's all Jeeper forums trashing the H2.
Bash the H2 all you want, we know who are the jealous ones. We have some forum members who drive "beaters", yet we don't tell them to 'go to your own forum' or make threats. If they have something to offer, they stick around.
I haven't been much of a fan of Jeep since Chrysler bought out the brand (Willys was the only real Jeep - the rest are knock-offs), but now that the Germans own you, should I call your rides VOLKSWAGEN? GM owns the Hummer brand, but Hummers are still made where they always have been...Mishawaka, Indiana at the AMG plant. Check how many postings of "Tahoe" are on your Heeper threads.
The <STRIKE>J</STRIKE> CHeepers talk about how much money the Hummer cost which always is the first sign of ENVY! Stock vs. stock isn't what it's about anyway...skill of the driver (or lack thereof) is what makes or breaks any machine.
I may not have the experience that many on this forum have, but I don't limit who I am willing to learn from by trash-talking their ride. It is folks with your attitude that get the wheeling spots closed up for the rest of us.
If we are all "offroaders" than leave it at that....wheel with Hummers and you may learn something that has yet to enter your closed little mind. I for one am not about to leave out those who have real interest in learning or sharing offroad knowledge.
By the way, since I lived in Indiana I can honestly say, Ohio drivers are NUTS! 
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07-22-2005, 01:44 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by oldhiker:
Hey Tool
Don't know where you live but Paragon is where we will be August 20th. Be there! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
We had a shopping cart, I mean jeep, on our last trip to PAP. Remember all those scraping and grinding noises? The poor little thing.
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07-22-2005, 05:37 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Mr. I - Man:
I'm digging the reflection in the backsplash at rear of the stove top. Short shorts  Nice! </div></BLOCKQUOTE><BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I see nothing good comming out of this.Thread change comming up.
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07-22-2005, 10:32 AM
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No but it sounds good! Oooh or Bananas Foster over top of some panacakes. Mmmmmm...
B-I-N-G-O.... B-I-N-G-O....
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Mr. I - Man:
Nailer, Follow you where ? It does not look like you are going any futher. Hey but a great hardcore place to park for a photo op just to say you were there or got there . Well kind of!! Dork </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
here is the next in the line up 
you couldnt make it to the trail head of this trail, skin smoker.
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07-22-2005, 10:05 AM
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Uhm...Mr. Cool? Where are you?
Oh look!! I have almost got 1100 posts. 
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07-23-2005, 04:56 AM
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I have a bad feeling he's not.
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07-22-2005, 03:51 PM
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07-25-2005, 05:26 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alec W:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DennisAJC:
[quote]Originally posted by SoonerBoarder:
I have an H2, but my son really likes his Jeep Liberty...
Hey I just noticed they're sharing the same frame as the TJ and YJ.  </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
It looks like they share the "unit body" design with the stroller  </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
LOL! That's what I meant to say. 
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