Turbo Kit for H2

[DH22G]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by CHarris:
Hey guys,

Free install is the going deal for prototyping most vehicles for superchargers and turbo kits. Even Magnacharger went around offering an installed supercharger for the price of the kit only when the 2005's rolled out. They have to make sure that the kit definitely works for the platform in case GM made any changes that make the installation kit or instructions incorrect.
It's not a bad offer if you are close and they can finish in a week or pretty close to that.

Cory </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well iam sorry but i have demoed my vehicle a lot and have a lot of sponsors and they would have it for maybe 3-5 day periods at a time but they would always give me the product free and install it too.. **** we are giving you our 55 thousand dollar trucks... you gotta be a little bit more appealing for a bunch of hummer enthusiasts who love their trucks... am i right guys???

[HUMMERcustoms.com/TAZ]

PARAGON and CHARRIS
STS has a snorkel for the offroaders who will encounter water and for every day driving if it is wet they have a K@N dry sock to put on it. The lag is .05 seconds he said power is instant and kicks in way low in the RPM ranges to get the Beast moving. The guy I'm working with has been installing it primarily on LS1 engines on Camaro and Firebirds as well as Transam. He said to date not a single car has used a dry filter on thier setup and water is no problem. He has 2 cars and a SUV that his wife drives and they have never had dry cover on. He said unless You offroad do not worry about it as turbo is installed up high where the mufflers would be and You would have to be deep enough then for water to run into the cab He mounts it so high up under the body. I would not be running mufflers anymore. He says it will not be loud but catch attention when waste gate blows off. It remind Him of a small jet just alot quieter. He has been working with STS I think He said since 2003 before they won the 2004 SEMA award for most inventive new product I think is what it is called. There are still alot of questions to be answered and that is why I decided to look into this situation. The guy doing the R@D said we will not do it if they do not furnish everything. Injector, pumps, tuning, etc. I told Him if they would not cover His labor I would do that. He said if thier marketing will do what they have done in the past with Him that i would not need to do that as once they put pictures and article in mags He gets swamped. I hope it all works out. I should know more maybe tommorrow as I'm to call Him to see what they want to do. In the mean time I have arranged for a Magna Charger just in case they will not come thru. The Dallas guy said if I can come and let Him get it on a dyno on a early friday morning where He can have it by noon that He would be ready to let Me take it home on Monday and he as well as STS would warranty thier product and work. That would work great as My best friend lives in Carroltin and maybe I can get together with some H2 guys while in Dallas. Hopeful I could buy Hummertech lunch or diner and any other H2 guys that wants to come along on a lunch or diner I'll cover them also as long as we do not have 20 guys going to eat but, then again I guess I really do not care I'll just get a credit card limit raise and feed everybody.. The only thing worrying Me is he said they want Him to design a single turbo setup and go up in size of turbo for the h2 but they want Him to put a twin turbo kit on My H2 using a little smaller turbo as they would like to offer both to H2 owners and that means i will have to do something to tranny as it will most likely not last long. Can you guys tell Me what i need to be looking into doing to tranny if they go dual turbo, install a kit and new converter or what? I would really appreciate some input on this to prevent a catostrophic tranny failure before it can happen. I have little experience with automatic tranny in high HP situation as I always ran manual. Please let me now what I need to be getting started looking for or lining up the tranny beef up if this project get approved. He said that I would like even the single turbo setup with this system over a supercharger. He said it spools up real quick with alot more low end torque. But C You are right it could get very expense with them not coming with injectors etc. with kit. Guys I'm told that by putting the turbo back under the rig it reduces turbo temp by roughly 700 degrees and that the cooling is so good in pipes You do not need an after cooler. Now that is with single turbo so i wonder if a twin setup would need a cooler. He is telling Me that We can get 1000 HP if i want to run aproximately 20 pounds of boost. Sort of scary but i have driven rail dragster with that much or a little more. So help Me decide what to do about tranny for this setup and that HP. I may even have rearend problems not sure so anything you guys can think of will be appreciated as I'm sure I have over looked somethng else that would need up grade with the twin setup.
Thanks For Any Help With This.

TAZ (Rick)

[drmiles]

I called and left a message.

Can you give more info on the configuration and setup. My truck finds its way off road a lot. Can't have anything that would not perform in the Mud and Water.

[HUMMERcustoms.com/TAZ]

Hi PARAGON
I have talked to them and a guy they recommended in Dallas to R@D a kit for H2 for them. They do not have a design for a kit at this time for H2. I have the email somewhere from STS but, they got right back to me and asked Me to talk to the guy in Dallas. He has done some R@D for Pontiac and did write ups for some mags on that project and another project. It is very possible i may go with STS as the guy they want to R@D is very interested in doing it. He is talking to the STS marketing Dept. to see what they would throw in the deal as far as kit and Him furnish His labor and get some magazine time by writing an article for them and letting them place in what ever mag they want. He said He likes doing it as it is Promo He can not afford. He seems actually interested and I'm suppose to talk to Him this week again. So if everybody wants to hang on I'll be the test case and let everyone know what happens and what I think of it.

TAZ
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
I have been reading about the "perfecting" of turbos recently. The near elimination of turbo lag allowing for power to show up lower in the RPM band. I even think they are showing up on some drag cars now with sounds as if they are going to be permanent.

The Squires system showed up here a few weeks ago and that's what got me to studying the subject. The Squires remote mount system reduces the heat issue and they can run smaller impellers which provides the boost earlier. In effect charging the the intake pipe even at idle but with electronic control allowing for fingertip control of the overall amount of boost.

It seems like with the turbos, they have overall created induction that can create tremendous more boost but keep it in check by using wastegates and electronic control. So, they have smaller impellers creating boost at a lower RPM and then able to control the top end of that boost using the wastegate/electronic control.

I am no expert, engineer, owner, tuner, etc but this stuff like this always intrigues me. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

[JZ 97 SS 1500]

Hey folks, we are looking for someone that might be interested in wanting to be a donor H2 for www.proturbokits.com and www.forcedinductions.com H2 turbo kit. Our system will be directed to customers wanting from 400rwhp to 900rwhp. If you are interested in doing this please contact us at 1-256-658-5798, or 1-210-657-2706. We would like to bring some extra horsepower to the Hummer crowd.

Jose

[CHarris]

Hey guys,

Free install is the going deal for prototyping most vehicles for superchargers and turbo kits. Even Magnacharger went around offering an installed supercharger for the price of the kit only when the 2005's rolled out. They have to make sure that the kit definitely works for the platform in case GM made any changes that make the installation kit or instructions incorrect.
It's not a bad offer if you are close and they can finish in a week or pretty close to that.

Cory

[KenP]

That's a beautiful Buick. I had the same rims, just 3.5's on the front. We could pull small wheel stands from a light with good pavement thanks to the wrinkle wall Hosiers. I had a bunch of KB, Dutweiler and Lawrence Conley crap on it.

Some of what I can remember: Art Carr 400 with a 5k stall and brake, custom crane cam, aluminum heads, Giant Garrett (can't remember size) with wastegate dump out the fender, 2-286 fuel pumps, front mount intercooler, injectors, etc... Very quick on AV. I can't wait to see more pics of yours.

[CHarris]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DH22G:

Well iam sorry but i have demoed my vehicle a lot and have a lot of sponsors and they would have it for maybe 3-5 day periods at a time but they would always give me the product free and install it too.. **** we are giving you our 55 thousand dollar trucks... you gotta be a little bit more appealing for a bunch of hummer enthusiasts who love their trucks... am i right guys??? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Nothing to be sorry for but a turbo or supercharger is in the $3500 - $5000 range. I could see it for free if it was a couple hundred dollars or something. What products did you get for free?

[PARAGON]

Cory, I don't necessarily back the Squires but their idea might carry some merit. I don't see why the intake would have to be "under" the truck. No matter what, you will have to pipe from the turbo to the engines intake. The piping is just a necessary evil, but this is what sparks the interest. How much gain you will have because of the heat loss with it being mounted down the exhaust as compared to just wrapping it all under the hood is the big question. Yeah you can get higher underhood temps but that can also be addressed separately.

Biggest issue for turbos on an H2, IMO, is going to be lag. If they can overcome the lag then it might be a good alternative to screws.

[CHarris]

Taz,

I'd say check with these people on the transmission...

http://www.flp2win.com/cart/transmission.php

I'd look to the level 5 4L65 transmission to set you up for whatever you want to do. Lot's of Camaros run them and they fix it for free if you break it.

[HUMMERDOGG]

Would the kit be something like this?

http://www.bankspower.com/twin-turbo-products.cfm