Lynch Hummer Video

[Steve R]

OH HELL YEAHHHHHH!!!!!! NOW THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKIN' ABOUT!

But let's not confuse them with the facts.

My buddy Dave is all about his H1...he laughs and just tells me to expect bashing from all the other brands....it comes with owning the BEST. And btw, his wife drives a Disco...he straight out says it's not even close to being in the same class as an H2.

Why they want to turn theirs in: poor quality, same gas mileage as the H2, doesn't have enough clearance, the rear step/hitch drag way behind the rear axle, not comfortable, can't do nearly the side-slope of a Hummer, and the list goes on. NOT EVEN IN THE SAME CLASS.

Great video!

[brianfriend]

Steve,

Who have I bashed? Have been rude or mean or anything like that? I don't think I have even said a bad word about the H2. Am I causing problems for you guys?

I drive my truck off road and it has some bad damage but that is what I bought it for. And after every trip I make I am more and more impressed with the thing. Everyone buys a vehicle for different reasons thats why they make different vehicles.


I guess I am a macho guy. I wrote the story and posted the link here for a few different reasons.

1: I thought you all might be interested in hearing about it and seeing pic.
2. to show that I do know the weekness of my rig
3. to give a bit of credibility that I am not just a www wheeler.
4. to show that with common sence you can overcome most situations that on a trail could leave you stranded
5. and to show that it is very possible to get in over your head.


I just posted a challange because I thought it would be fun to really see how these things do. Is that threatening to you>

Why do you want me off your forum?

brian

If it can break it can be fixed.

[muskyman]

steve,

the Gwagon does have three lockers , front &rear axle and center diff.

well the claimed 20" ledge climb is just warmed over from the H1...that ledge sure dosent look 20" to me.

do you know where that spec came from?

the hummer was designed to fight in city street across the pond. and for security reasons building over there are often ringed with 18" barrier made of concrete. So the Military went over that to 20" and wrote it into the original design requirments.

did you happen to notice there was no comparison of break-over angle in that video? Break-over angle is a key factor in real off-road situations even more then approach and departure angles but yet no mention?

I'll bet you can guess why

Musky:the thinking mans fish

Dirt is for playing roads are for getting there

[brianfriend]

Here is a link to the independance trail on discoweb. The red discovery is my truck. There are pictures below the write up. Never posted a link before so I hope it works.
http://www.discoweb.org/independencetrail.htm

If it can break it can be fixed.

[Klaus]

Lynch Hummer has a new Quicktime Video on their web site:

http://www.lynchhummer.com/videos/h2.vs.competition.mov

Enjoy!

Klaus

[Steve R]

Lack of break-over angle is my biggest complaint with the H2. I won't kid you....when I first saw the H2 I immediately felt that the "skirt" should be lifted higher off the ground!

My buddy has a Toyota Tacoma that has more clearance under the body! not much...but a bit more. The only thing I can say is that our entire belly is protected...whereas other vehicles still have their transfer case, drive-shaft and other such things hanging out.

If you look at the H2, you will notice they did what they could to keep the wheelbase from getting too long: the passenger compartment is pushed way way forward, the rear seating offers juuuuuust enough leg room for passengers, and the cargo area isn't all that long either. You have to figure, if you want a sharp approach and departure angle, then all you have left to work with is the area between front & rear axles....they went with a measurement that was about as long as they reasonably could get away with.

I'm sure they could have pulled the front & rear axles tighter together...but then our butt would hang-out and our front would also extend further forwards (like a disco). It's sacrifices one way or another!

I'm sure you'll be very interested with what it being designed as an "H4"...this vehicle is based on the size of a D90, but will feature gear-driven hubs, CTIS and some huge suspension travel. It's still in design phase...but this vehicle will lack the cargo room and bring to us a true all-offroader. Or in your case, something you don't have to modify as much.

When you get your H2, what do you plan/anticipate doing to deal with getting more clearance. I assume an SFA is in the line of thought...but what else comes to mind?

[Dan]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by brianfriend:

I don't have much experience with the other vehicles because I have no interest in them.
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Makes one wonder why you're here then....

- Dan

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SUT on order - 17 months to go!
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[JMoore]

The break over test didn't seem to fair with the Toyota running with side steps and them conviently removed on the H2... Also the G Wagon is equiped with 3 lockers, none looked engaged.

-John

Beer is the reason we know God loves us.

[Zing]

Wow Snake, that is one nice trans am. Trans am used to be a dream car of mine growing up and I think it has evolved nicely over the years. I hadn't seen the new one yet. Looks great in yellow too.

Cool video. No wonder those rover people hate us.

[muskyman]

see thats the thing with editorial rights , you can portray anything you want to see.

thats how it works.

I have been to the hummer prooving ground in south bend and with the exception of the modified verticle wall they have now seamed to put a wood board on the lip I have driven those trails and test obstacles. and I cant think of any that my stock disco could not do other then the progressive sand trenches...funny they dident show the H2 there?

to bad that the drivers in all the other vehicles never heard of MOMENTUM!

also kinda funny on that one hill where only the rear wheel on the Gwagon was turning? the Gwagon has front rear and center selectable lockers...driver must not have known that? or they just meant to skew the results.

MM

Musky:the thinking mans fish

Dirt is for playing roads are for getting there

[Steve R]

Brianfriend & Musky,

Okay guys...I think I may owe both of you an apology. The Discoweb boys "pearl-harbored" us and the both of you showed up amoungst the whole mess. I just mmmmmmmight have jumped the gun on figuring your motives were malicious.

Honestly...it didn't help to find my name and profanic references made to me on your discoweb with your names right next to them.

Anyways....you guys do have some great insight and obviously offer a nice perspective on things. It still kinda freaks me out that you were part of a seeming conspiracy to cause problems over here....but, well....that's the way it is I suppose.

I've done some research about the SFA and the H2. It would seem that GM does in fact have some SFA's in their parts-bin afterall...so it was their choice to run IFS, not a default thing. The SFA IS the premiere choice for hardcore offroading and it does offer better articulation....but, it would seem that even with the articulation, the large size and relatively long wheelbase precludes the H2 from ever becoming a serious rockcrawler. At the same time, the SRA (rear axle) precludes it from being a great desert racer as well. The whole thing is a huge compromise to achieve an overall performance. Musky, however, is right...it is a good planform to start from. I'd still argue that it's too large.

Again...sorry for jumping on you guys...you just arrived with some nasty company.

Welcome to the clubhouse....just remember to defend it when the Ford, Dodge, Toyota and Nissan guys show up!

[Texas Red]

The current info on Hummer.com says the H1 is capable of 22" step and 30" fording depth, while the H2 is capable of 16" step and 20" fording depth.

[brianfriend]

SteveR, Thanks. Btw...I am sure you didn't find anything derogitory next to my name

If it can break it can be fixed.

[DennisAJC]

This "Tag-along" negative commentary to everything say about the H2 is making you look stupid Marcey. It's getting obvious you want it! Keep talkin.....

[HeeHaw]

Fire 1

DISCO -0

ROTFLOL..................

HeeeeeeeeHawwwwwwwwwww

[JMoore]

Steve,

The third is the transfer case. I'm not sure if in a GWagon it's electrical or mechanical or a combination of the two. In regards to the approach angle, most serious Land rover guys trim the airdam to increase the angle.

-John

Beer is the reason we know God loves us.

[brianfriend]

Cohummer,

I agree. I just like to wheel too. It would not be a competitve thing just getting out on the trail. I have some cv joints coming in. They will be used and rather torn up but they will hold fine until I can get my upgrades but I won't be able to do any real serious stuff fow awhile. I will add you to my list.

brian

If it can break it can be fixed.