Obama Wins!!!!!

[ShortBus]

I am going to work and fire some people tomorrow.

[NJ H2]

This Country is in for 4 years of misery

[ShaggyX]

Originally Posted by NJ H2

This Country is in for 4 years of misery

Even misery would be better then what Bush gave us. I don't even know a word that would describe how crappy he has been.

[ROX]

Originally Posted by ShaggyX

Even misery would be better then what Bush gave us. I don't even know a word that would describe how crappy he has been.

Hi Shag!

Besides the War in Iraq, what specifically didn't Bush do to make you feel better. That's what this is about, feelings. And why support Obama and not Clinton? What is he going to change? Do you think that January 21st he'll pull all our troops out of Iraq? Do you think he'll lower taxes with a Democratic Legislature? what? I'd like to know
Why didn't you like McCain? He obviously didn't want Bush's endorsement either and Bush did not campaign for him. (for the most part) McCain said he'd lower taxes and provide a tax break for people that wanted to buy their own health care. I don't think he meant he'd write them a blank check, but take any money spent on health care off their taxes, up to $5k a year. That's pretty cool in my book. Do you think that Republicans in general were responsible for the recent economic turmoil, even though they don't control Congress and did not pass the Legislature that led to the demise of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac?

BTW, anyone can answer these questions, but I'd like to know.
I'm just happy I don't have to endure the political commercials while I'm trying to watch the weather anymore!

[KenP]

Originally Posted by ROX

BTW, anyone can answer these questions, but I'd like to know.
I'm just happy I don't have to endure the political commercials while I'm trying to watch the weather anymore!

Good luck, I ask those questions all the time and no one can answer them.

Liberals say they want change, but when you ask them specifics they can't answer.

[ShaggyX]

Hey Rox.

I don't like Obama, nor do I like McCain. I do however like them both more then I like Bush, and believe either one of them would do better then Bush. The war in Iraq, and the bailout are my two main reasons for hating Bush. I believe both are terrible for the economy, and just plain stupid...and IIRC..both of those ideas came from Bush, and not Congress. Sure Congress had to OK them, but they still started with Bush.

[BKLYNH2]

I thought we'd go back to talking about Hummers and boobs today?

[Bully13]

Originally Posted by BKLYNH2

I thought we'd go back to talking about Hummers and boobs today?

um..

Hummer in the White House = Bill Clinton?

Boob in the White House = Obama?

[ROX]

Originally Posted by ShaggyX

Hey Rox.

I don't like Obama, nor do I like McCain. I do however like them both more then I like Bush, and believe either one of them would do better then Bush. The war in Iraq, and the bailout are my two main reasons for hating Bush. I believe both are terrible for the economy, and just plain stupid...and IIRC..both of those ideas came from Bush, and not Congress. Sure Congress had to OK them, but they still started with Bush.

So it wasn't a vote for change or anything in particular, but a vote against Bush even though he wasn't running. The bailout plan was tried 2 years ago, and got stopped in Congress because no one believed what was coming.

You know, a couple of weeks ago I heard a friend of mine predict 18% unemployment within the next 2 years. Not if Obama was elected but because we don't have the infrastructure in our country to offer jobs to people that lose them in the financial industry. The strengthening dollar should help that some, but I was surprised to hear that needless to say.
Who gets blamed for high unemployment if they can't help stimulate the economy? Usually the sitting President. I sure hope he was wrong. I'd like to see Obama change his constituants from takers, to doers. Maybe they can use him as an example of how you can change your life if you try hard enough instead of sitting back and waiting for a handout. You know we live in a Democracy, it's not the same as England, France or Canada.

Personally, he lost my vote because he doesn't think showing respect for the Flag of our Country really matters that much and he couldn't even cast a vote Yes or No on hardly any legislation while he was in the Senate. Now that he's President-Elect, is he going to show us pride for the country that elected him? Will he actually take a stand and tell us what he's going to change, or just test the winds? It's time for him to lead. I'm afraid he doesn't know how.

[TXSUT]

Originally Posted by ROX

...I heard a friend of mine predict 18% unemployment within the next 2 years. Not if Obama was elected but because...

Maybe it won't be because Obama was elected, but his plans for the coal industry and his lack of plans for nuclear power sure won't help the employment situation.

[KenP]

Originally Posted by ShaggyX

Hey Rox.

I don't like Obama, nor do I like McCain. I do however like them both more then I like Bush, and believe either one of them would do better then Bush. The war in Iraq, and the bailout are my two main reasons for hating Bush. I believe both are terrible for the economy, and just plain stupid...and IIRC..both of those ideas came from Bush, and not Congress. Sure Congress had to OK them, but they still started with Bush.

Wrong, Bush floated the idea, Congress wrote the law (twice while adding pork to it), Bush signed it.

I agree, the bailout was wrong. Banks are using the money to buy other banks and horde the rest.

[jmsspratlin]

Originally Posted by NJ H2

This Country is in for 4 years of misery

At least 4 is better than the last 8

[frenzy1]

Originally Posted by jmsspratlin

At least 4 is better than the last 8

I wouldn't have voted for Obama, but I'm willing to give the guy some credit.

Frenzy
Belgium

[HUMMERcustoms.com/TAZ]

Bush was handed some bad things that happened which he had no control over. The economy was fine and housing along with stock markets rising until the unregulated people ran it in the ground under Democratic controlled oversight commitees who turned and claimed (with taped testimony to the contrary) that all was fine and more easy money needed to be put out so lower incomes could buy homes. You turn the water hose on at the source with no nozzle on the end to control the flow and somehthing is going to get flooded. Unfortunately if you cater to the basic natural human insticts one being greed it will manifest itself every time.

So even though Bush did not shine as bright as some wished the Democrats claimed in the last mid terms they had a mandate (to do what I do not know still yet) it was after this mandate was handed down that housing went in the tank and stock markets began to have problems. The Democrats all had a chance to give a vote of confidence after 9-11 and most as well did the Republicans supported to take the fight to the terrorists and not allow anymore attacks on Our soil which is what has happened no attacks since
9-11.

I guess I just do not see as much of what is claimed to be what Bush has done wrong. It seemed all the same good ole boy goofs that some have held seats in Congress, some it seems since the Constitution was written, have all been apart of what has happened to Our Nation. Plenty of blame all around yet none to stand up and admit if what has gone wrong was to blame them.

Unless Our new President aligns himself with younger middle of the road blood, He will not accomplish anything except maintain the status quo. Well and just raise Our taxs and really kill this economy putting us into a depression. In times like we are in right now really true fresh conservative ideas are needed. Hopefully we do not get a huge turn over of Supreme Court Justices who with their most likely extremely left wing replacements will tell us what they think The Constitution should have said rather than what it does say.

Oh well hopefully we can survive what could come down on Us.

TAZ

[wpage]

Will be interesting to see who everyone blames all their problems on for the next 4 years...

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

Originally Posted by wpage

Will be interesting to see who everyone blames all their problems on for the next 4 years...

They will blame President Bush for the next 12 years...because they can't see past the head of their dick...

Bush made mistakes but if you study presidental history, 90% of what happens today grew out of what happened during the previous 12 years...

[Dave92270]

Originally Posted by HUMMERcustoms.com/TAZ

Bush was handed some bad things that happened which he had no control over. The economy was fine and housing along with stock markets rising until the unregulated people ran it in the ground under Democratic controlled oversight commitees who turned and claimed (with taped testimony to the contrary) that all was fine and more easy money needed to be put out so lower incomes could buy homes. You turn the water hose on at the source with no nozzle on the end to control the flow and somehthing is going to get flooded. Unfortunately if you cater to the basic natural human insticts one being greed it will manifest itself every time.

So even though Bush did not shine as bright as some wished the Democrats claimed in the last mid terms they had a mandate (to do what I do not know still yet) it was after this mandate was handed down that housing went in the tank and stock markets began to have problems. The Democrats all had a chance to give a vote of confidence after 9-11 and most as well did the Republicans supported to take the fight to the terrorists and not allow anymore attacks on Our soil which is what has happened no attacks since
9-11.

I guess I just do not see as much of what is claimed to be what Bush has done wrong. It seemed all the same good ole boy goofs that some have held seats in Congress, some it seems since the Constitution was written, have all been apart of what has happened to Our Nation. Plenty of blame all around yet none to stand up and admit if what has gone wrong was to blame them.

Unless Our new President aligns himself with younger middle of the road blood, He will not accomplish anything except maintain the status quo. Well and just raise Our taxs and really kill this economy putting us into a depression. In times like we are in right now really true fresh conservative ideas are needed. Hopefully we do not get a huge turn over of Supreme Court Justices who with their most likely extremely left wing replacements will tell us what they think The Constitution should have said rather than what it does say.

Oh well hopefully we can survive what could come down on Us.

TAZ

well said! 100%

[SnakeH2]

Originally Posted by NJ H2

This Country is in for 4 years of misery

Agree...but keep your chin up. We made it through the Carter years.

[Ed G.]

Bush is, was and will always be a idiot. He was the President so he is ultimately resposible for all that happened on his watch, especially the last 4 years. Bush was a incompetent leader who surrounded himself with people who had their own agendas that were not in the best interest of America or the American people. The Republican Party is in ruin and has made themselves a party of fools, come on Palin is the best they could do for VP . Obama is facing the biggest mess any President has ever faced. Thank god that he's intelligent and has great command of the english language.
Obama + America = = !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Republicans + Bush = !!!!!!!!!!

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

Originally Posted by Ed G.

Bush is, was and will always be a idiot. He was the President so he is ultimately resposible for all that happened on his watch, especially the last 4 years. Bush was a incompetent leader who surrounded himself with people who had their own agendas that were not in the best interest of America or the American people. The Republican Party is in ruin and has made themselves a party of fools, come on Palin is the best they could do for VP . Obama is facing the biggest mess any President has ever faced. Thank god that he's intelligent and has great command of the english language.
Obama + America = = !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Republicans + Bush = !!!!!!!!!!

you are another ignorant person who has no life experience ...