Twin Turbo H2?

[PARAGON]

Well, when you have to try to write a book to beat around the bush about the appearance of your business..... well that pretty much says it all.

I am sorry for bashing you, it was a mistake. I should have read all of what you typed in this forum and just believed it all without any regard to the rest of it. I shouldn't have thought that your "associate" who lives in Italy but shows an address in Surrey, England was anything but a multi-typo. Of course, I have been involved with a ring out of Surrey, England that has a multi-national car scam. Now if one of his addresses would have been from Niger I would have had you pegged for sure.

You see, you look like a jack-leg coming onto this forum trying to push your wares and then on top of that have all kinds of things not add up. Get off the forums, and go spend a few years building a name and then come back and not feel like you have to tell us your belt size and where you learned to TIG. Quite frankly, no one gives a **** if you can weld or not, figured out how to polish stainless steel, or if you can put a new shiny bracket on the side of a block. My advice for you is to shut up and quit overcompensating for who knows what by telling us your innermost thoughts.

Now do you understand why someone will only take a chance on a jack-leg if they get the package for free? You have no track record, no shame and no customers. If you were as good as you say you are, people would be coming to you and you wouldn't have to try to hunt customers down in forums.

[PARAGON]

Dude, come on. Just give it up and move on or it can get very nasty around here.

For instance, while you are telling your associate from Italy whose stuff says he is from England, make sure to tell him about the Chevrolet SSR TWIN TURBO 2005, Chevrolet Corvette C6 TWIN TURBO 2005, Dodge Viper SRT-10 8.3L TWIN TURBO 1100 BHP (LHD) 2004.

By the way, they all refer to YOUR website, so the dumb comment about the fax number makes a lot of sense.

You can check it all for yourself here: http://eleanor.virtual-showroom.net/...lery/index.htm

[Induction Concepts]

Hello, my name is Rad Craig and I own Induction Concepts. If this post is not allwed, I apologize. Let me know and I'll remove it. I'm not selling anything, just looking for some info/feedback.

We design and fabricate high-end twin turbo systems. I wanted to see if there was any interest in a twin turbo system for an H2?

I am very picky, a stickler for detail, and want things done right. We only use the finest parts and materials available, no shortcuts, no compromises. My only goal is to build the finest turbo systems on the planet, period.

Not only do we build the hot side out of stainless steel, but we build the charged air side out of stainless also, hell even our bracketry is stainless. Everything is TIG welded. We were the first turbo company to insist on items like this, 3 years ago, right from the start. We believe in only building very complete systems, not leaving components out to make the kits 'appear' cheaper, like pricing them without turbos, fuel system components, etc. For instance, on one of our kits that requires it, we don't just include new custom A/C hoses, we include a new evaporator, new o-rings, new compressor oil, o-ring lube, etc. Over $200 worth of just A/C system recharge items, so the job will be done right.

We are not a huge conglomerate, or 'tuner' bolt-on business, we are just a small, humble shop. We are hot rodders, true 'car guys'. We do this because its our passion. We don't charge people an extra $20k just because they drive an H2 or a Viper, to us, they are just another hot rod, and we live for all of them.

We don't build 'half-way' kits. We don't leave parts out to make the kits 'appear' less expensive. We don't use cheap or inferior parts and materials to bring the cost down. We design the systems like they should be designed.

Here are a couple of pics of our work.

1000+hp system




1000+hp system



Previous, non-turbo project: 1350hp, pump gas, daily driver, 534ci, 600hp fogger, all accessories (AC, ps, pb, cruise, etc.)





These are some pics of our TIG welding work:






I challenge you to find better craftsmanship anywhere.

We focus on the 600-2000hp range. We build each system around a real street vehicle, all accessories, all emissions, perfect drivability. Twin turbo systems are our primary focus, but we tackle whatever the customer needs, and do it all with the same care and attention to detail. Engine work, drivetrain, custom suspension, the above truck has a custom airbag suspension featuring a 6-link rear suspension and 14" of travel. Rides like a caddy, handles like its on rails. It will lay the frame on the ground, but still raise up higher than stock.

Basically my philosophy is that I design and build this stuff as if it were for me personally, and I like nice things, done right. I treat people the way I want to be treated, and it works for us. I believe many of you here share this same mindset.

There's so much junk out there today, poor quality, just seems like people don't care about their work anymore, just the $$$$.

So, I'd like to know if there is any interest in a twin turbo kit for H2's. We're finished with the current prototype and preparing to go to production with it and are trying to select our next prototype.

If you'd like more info, feel free to send me an email (rad@inductionconcepts.com) or give me a call (number is on the website, contact us page).

I'd like your feedback if you'd be so kind. Thanks.

[Induction Concepts]

The Black GT is mine, the truck was mine. The rest (Bullitt, red GT, Mach 1, '01 Cobra, '03 Cobra, '05 GT, '99 Cobra, etc.) are customer cars.

Yes, I've spent three years on R&D, instead of rushing a product out the door for the customers to find the problems for us, in order to make a quick buck. Yes, I have only been doing turbos for 3 years. I'm a quick study, what can I say. When you love something, you tend to pick it up very easily. I am one of the few fortunate enough to find, and do, what I love for a living.

I didn't know how to TIG weld before I started this either...any kind of welding for that matter, but that doesn't seem to make much of a difference now, does it? I've had guys that have been welding for 20 years, brag on my TIG welding (stainless and aluminum). The guys from ProCharger even complimented us on the design and quality at a recent event. We are currently featured in the April 2005 issue of Muscle Mustangs and Fast Fords (p90 - "Sideways At Any Speed").

Rodsbyrad was just a site I put up when I was building the truck, before Induction Concepts. It was mainly to show the progress on the truck. I let the domain expire a long time ago.

I am here (this company) because I went through the same things that every turbo kit customer has went through. That is what inspired me to do this. All of the horror stories, people paying for kits, then the company not answering the phones or returning emails (Incon, TDC, Innovative Turbo Solutions (ITS), etc.), shipping kits that were missing half the parts and the other half were wrong or didn't fit, practically non-existent quality control, horrible customer service, selling 'kits' that you end up spending another $2000-3000 in order to get the parts it should have included, in order to get to the power level you thought you were getting, in the first place, etc. What appalled me was the fact that all of this was the 'norm' and customers just accepted most of these things. I have several customers now who also experienced this first hand, a couple that actually paid for kits and never got them (TDC, ITS). Anyone who has researched a turbo kit at all, knows exactly what I'm talking about.

I talked to the companies, talked to their customers, did the research, and ended up buying a used Incon kit because it was the only kit that I knew for sure that I could get all the parts and components to.

After going through all of this, I thought I could do a better job. I know I'm not the first guy that saw a problem and started his own business to improve the product/industry.

I didn't like calling a turbo kit maker, asking questions on the phone and being treated like I was wasting their time, they were in a hurry, or that they had bigger fish to fry than to mess with me. Same thing for responding to emails. When I am excited about a product, and take my time to send an email to a manufacturer to ask them about their product, I don't want to wait a week for a response. Hell, by then I've already moved on and found another solution. I frequently spend 45mins - 2 hours on the phone with a customer, making sure that all of their questions are answered completely. After all, it's a pretty large purchase and I want to not only answer all of their questions, but ensure that our products match up to their goals. If someone calls and they are only wanting 500hp, I will recommend they go with a supercharger, nitrous or maybe even an lower priced single turbo kit, in fact I have sent PTK many customers for this very reason. If that is their goal, our product is just not cost effective for that horsepower level. Sure, I may lose a few sales, but I sleep well at night.

Instead of searching for old information, back before I even got into this, try searching for some relevant information. It sounds like you are only out to bash. Search on "Induction Concepts" and see what you find. Look on our site, in our forums, see what the visitors there have to say. We were the FIRST aftermarket manufacturer...not just turbos, all of the automotive aftermarket, to have our own forums, where the visitors and potential customers could talk directly with the company, ask questions, get answers and take an active role in the development of THEIR product.

You can bash all you want, but there is no substance to it. We have a product that is unrivaled in quality, craftsmanship, design, and it includes excellent customer service. What more could you want?

[PARAGON]

Oops, sorry forgot one. Inference is the same as the others. 2000 Lamborghini Diablo SV GTR LM 5.7L V12 620 HP, this is under the Twin Turbo section of your partner's website that also has pictures of an H2, Ford GT, Mustangs, vette, etc. etc.

http://www.eleanorsupercars.com/partners.htm

[KenP]

I fully expected you to have an answer to each point. I spoke my peace and gave my opinion based entirely on your words as posted to other forums. The members here are very intelligent. Good luck.

[DRTYFN]

Tag team ownage.