AM General or General Motors

[EXH1X5]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PhilD:
We all know the differences between a H1 and H2, I've owned both and was never confused as to which one was which, but your initial statement had that "the H2 isn't a real Hummer" flavor to it, as do your other comments, without actually saying it. [snip] </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

OK, OK, PhilD/Hummer Guru, I humbly offer my apology IF you misunderstood or somehow misinterpreted something in my initial statement to mean "the H2 isn't a real Hummer." How in the world could any of us newbies have possibly known that you have actually owned both a HUMMER H1 AND a HUMMER H2??? WOW...I'm impressed!!!

[EXH1X5]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by mstams:
AM General builds the H2, whereas GM designed and markets it. GM bought the HUMMER brand name back in 1999, but I don't think anything changed about the relationship im 2004. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Regarding the H2;

AM General LLC is simply one of thousands of GM suppliers. In the case of the H2, GM's "supplier contract" called for their SUV & SUT H2's to be "assembled" by a company named AM General LLC until the year 2009 at a rate up to 40,000 units per year.

Look at the H2 this way: GM designed it; certifies it; markets it through GM’s dealer network; warrants it; owns all the tooling; buys every single part to build it through their vast supplier network and then has them all drop-shipped to another of their suppliers (AM General) to further assemble GM's parts.

GM had argued with the DOT, NHTSA & EPA from day 1 that the H2 was a GM vehicle that was simply "assembled" by one of their suppliers (AM General) from 100% GM parts. Apparently it took GM over a year to cut through all the red tape and finally convince DOT & NHTA & EPA that the H2 is in fact a GM vehicle.

[Hummer Guy]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by mstams:
AM General builds the H2, whereas GM designed and markets it. GM bought the HUMMER brand name back in 1999, but I don't think anything changed about the relationship im 2004. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You nailed it -- and its been a Vortec since day one...

[OrangeCrush]

I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong but I think you are right. I think the first year the H2 was out, it was still considered AM General. It wasn't until 2004, it became GM.

You're welcome
Mark

You're welcome
Mark

[Ashley]

I plugged a chassis number of a 2003 H2 in to the Parts Imager and it came up with "Manufacturer AM General" then i did the same with a 2004 chassis number of a H2 and it came up with "Manufacture General Motors"?

Are these 2 the same or what????? Did GM list as AM General until 2004???

Many Thanks
Ashley

[PARAGON]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by EXH1X5:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">That would explain the manufacturers name change for the 04's. Although it is hardly made of 100% GM parts, I doubt many vehicles are assembled with 100% parts from the manufacturer. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Please be aware the H2 is one of those few vehicles that are.

ALL parts in & on the H2 are 100% GM purchased parts! NONE ...as in ZERO... H2 parts come from AM General. The H2 is 100% GM content and of course that does not necessarily make it good ...or make it bad ...it just makes it the way it is! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Perhaps you misunderstood. I believe the quote was "Although it is hardly made of 100% GM parts, I doubt many vehicles are assembled with 100% parts from the manufacturer." As in the AAM rear end, Borg-Warn T-case, Hitachi throttle body, Eaton locker, Bosch ABS/TCS, Bose Radio, etc etc. You get the idea.