Hey folks....

[walc]

Frank and CO<
What are we alleged adults doing at 5:08 EST?
More importantly, who is liable?

[Adam in CO]

How to Fight Fair
How you argue — especially how you end an argument — can determine the long-term success or failure of your relationship.

A primary requirement for any fight is to maintain control. You do not have the license to be childish, abusive or immature. If you have legitimate feelings, you are entitled to give a reasonable voice to those feelings in a constructive way. (That includes not being self-righteous or taking yourself too seriously.)

"Disagreements are going to occur," says Dr. Phil. "The question is, do you go into it with a spirit of looking for resolution or do you go into it with a spirit of getting even, vengeance, control? You'll never win if you do that. If you make your relationship a competition, that means your spouse has to lose in order for you to win. It's not a competition, it's a partnership."

Here are Dr. Phil's specific rules for fighting fair.


Take it private and keep it private.
Fighting in front of your children is nothing short of child abuse. It can and will scar them emotionally — all because you don't have the self-control to contain yourself until you can talk privately.


Keep it relevant.
Don't bring up old grudges or sore points when they don't belong in a particular argument. Put boundaries around the subject matter so that a fight doesn't deteriorate into a free-for-all.


Keep it real.
Deal with the issue at hand, not with a symptom of the problem. Get real about what is bothering you, or you will come away from the exchange even more frustrated.


Avoid character assassination.
Stay focused on the issue, rather than deteriorating to the point of attacking your partner personally. Don't let the fight degenerate into name-calling.


Remain task-oriented.
Know what you want going into the disagreement. If you don't have a goal in mind, you won't know when you've achieved it.


Allow for your partner to retreat with dignity.
How an argument ends is crucial. Recognize when an olive branch is being extended to you — perhaps in the form of an apology or a joke — and give your partner a face-saving way out of the disagreement.


Be proportional in your intensity.
Every single thing you disagree about is not an earth-shattering event or issue. You do not have to get mad every time you have a right to be.


There's a time limit.
Arguments should be temporary, so don't let them get out of hand. Don't allow the ugliness of an argument to stretch on indefinitely.

[CO Hummer]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alec W:
...that I’ll never want to meet in person. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Until he kicks yo ass.

[CO Hummer]

You wouldn't understand.

[ShaggyX]

I think some people are just way too high strung.

[h2co-pilot]

PS-

You knew I knew and others knew who you guys were and waited until your outting to apologize? And DRTY supposedly knew- the guy you all were hiding from and you still waited.


?????

[frank6150]

I R SMRT!

[Sewie]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ShaggyZr2:
I think some people are just way too high strung. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Any suggestions?

[CO Hummer]

That whole apology things seems like a lot of bull to me.

You came on the forum and made a bad name for yourself right of the bat. Then, you found out what a cool place it is, and wanted to become a part of it. However, you pissed of some of the old vets. So, your apology to CP was only made in your own self interest. You knew that if she didn't like you, 99% of the forum wouldn't either.

LMAO at the "honest apology".

[CO Hummer]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by frank6150:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by CO Hummer:
You talkin' to Walc? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm talking to you sir. I always respect my elders. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Elder says. SHUT IT.

[CO Hummer]

What does shaggyzr2 mean then?

[Boss Hoss]

After reading all these threads it leaves me wondering if im the only one posting with my REAL name...this is just nuts.

[CO Hummer]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by frank6150:
You're older than me. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Just by a smidge.

[CO Hummer]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by frank6150:
BAh! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You'll never keep up you Rox wannbe.

[frank6150]

Hi Walc!

[DRTYFN]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Bondage:
Well, now it's all out in the open and you all are having fun. I outed us when I e-mailed a straightforward and honest apology to CP for insulting her in the past. It had been bothering me since she had not (before now) really been a part of the messing with pics of my kids thing.

And that was the root of the problem before. For those new to all this, Ginger and I had been on the forum originaly under our own names. I got slammed because I made a humanitarian run to New Orleans after Katrina and shared it with the forum because I thought it represented Hummers in a good light. Ginger got slammed when she knew more about firearms than DRTY. It was all a bit obnoxious and silly really and no one was taking it seriously until the kid's pic thing.

I had posted a pic of Ginger and the kids in another part of the forum early on before I realized what kind of place it could be. Once people could not win a straight argument with us, they decided it would be fun to attack our family pic - even chopping it to put a penis in the hand of my 11 year old daughter. That made me quite angry, and I sunk to their level and things got out of hand.

To stop the posting of the pics, we flamed out and left. To continue to enjoy the parts of the forum that we DO enjoy, I came back as Bondage and Ginger came back as Jennifer/Toots. All was fine until I decided to step up, be a man, and apologize to CP for my previous behaviour. It only started the pics going up again.

To those on the forum for whom I have enormous respect and whom I feel have become friends, I apologize for any perceived "deception." I would do ANYTHING to protect my children - including deceive other members of a Hummer forum - even ones I have come to know and admire, though most knew the truth behind the scenes.

To those who feel they must continue to attack me through my children, well, have at it. If it makes you feel all big and bad, enjoy.

To CP - you got my apology in the PM. I meant it.

I hope my apology will be accepted by others here, as I will continue to post on the forum and enjoy the bulk of its contents and the great majority of the members who are good and decent people. And I will continue to post as Bondage and sign as Sean. I kinda like it. No it is not my actual name, but I am not "hiding" anything anymore than DRTYFN, CP, RACERX, HUMMBEBE, HUMMERLVR, or any of the others of the multitude of folks that don't use their real names on here.

Let me say this again so it is crystal clear. I APOLOGIZE FOR ANY PROBLEMS CAUSED TO ANYONE FOR ANY DECEPTIONS I CREATED ON THIS FORUM. No ifs ands or buts. I'm sorry. I hope the normal folks on here can understand and forgive.

Sean

ps - Ginger will be posting her own apology as well - we are married - but we are two different people. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ahhhhh... there's that stupid fuc<span class="ev_code_BLACK">k</span>ing attitude. I knew you'd eventually stroke out.
From what I heard you're not really married. And you're old.

The only reason you posted this lame POS excuse for an apology was that you got outed. You would have been perfectly content to keep slithering around pretending you hadn't been a complete ******* in your previous alias. I have thoroughly enjoyed watching and waiting for this inevitable outing.

And Ginger/Jennifer didn't know more about the most efficient firearm for the particular usage(even though you were telling her what to say, Mr. "I'm a big firearms expert") I'd love to watch you try to keep up with me shooting my tricked out 10/22 and decimating the squirrels and you not hitting shi<span class="ev_code_BLACK">t</span> with whatever weapon you think makes you seem like you have more than a thimble in your pants.

There's so much else I'd like to say to you, but somethings are best left unsaid. Somebody else know what I'm talking about.

And just because I know you love this so much....

[frank6150]

I may have to poop. No.. wait.. Yes it's a .. No it's just gas.

[Dug]

U dont have to apologize to me. Who GAF what anyone thinks! I am one of the honest ones here who posts my real name. Dug3x3 is a abreviation for "Doug has nine inches of d!nk".
Show wifeys tit shot and all will be good.

[frank6150]

BAh!

[Edspad]

Well said Sean