Warn 9.5ti Winch Good deal!

[Skulz]

I'm confused. There is a "red letter" Warn dealer in my area that will do the installation and everything. However, they say that the multimount for the 9.5ti isn't even out yet (July 3 or so). Their price is 1199 for the winch & mount, 155 for the wiring to the rear, and labor is additional.

Obviously I'm now very confused and have no idea what any of you really got with your order. I think my brain is having a melt down.

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[SJ]

BKLYNH2:

Thanks for the news; I'm glad to see prices are falling. I've had my eyes on the 9.5ti for a while.

Let us know how the install goes. I've seen a few folks on this site with the system and they all seem to really like it.

[TheGoodHummerMan]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Skulz:
Ed,
"I think I'll probably doing business with the red letter warn dealer. I have a catalogue for Warn stuff and the pictures are deceiving in size! I'm waiting to hear back from the warn dealer on some information, but I might be interested in your roller fairlead. Don't hold it on my account though!
I'm glad H2Girl got a good deal from gowarn. I know they (gowarn) aren't an authorized dealer as was mentioned in previous postings. I'm the type of person that needs good service on this stuff, and that is what I based my decision on. I usually go with internet sales, but this is one of the exceptions."<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I agree completely! H2Girl didn't have problems AND saved money which is great. I'm just envious! Kind of like shooting craps? I'm usually pretty lucky, but not this time. Hopefully everything is good to go now... I know that I felt like a super-goon explaining to the local dealer who repaired my winch about how badly gowarn had been to deal with. Definitely NOT worth the lower price.

I'm going to "eventually" list the steel winch cable and fairlead on eBay. If I procrastinate as long as usual, you can take your time deciding about the fairlead. I really like the synthetic cable. I can manhandle the winch by myself now (with the synthetic line it is considerably lighter). Before, it was a real chore for just me, but then again, I'm not as strong as I think.

Doesn't the winch come with the roller fairlead... You probably won't need another one. But if you quickly kink your 5/16" steel cable and want a never-been-used replacement, let me know.

Ed

[TheGoodHummerMan]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by cincih2:
"Which brings me to my real question. Where is every one mounting the solenoid"<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
David,

You could mount it in any number of places. But, we decided to mount it underneath the black, metal "corner brace" plate on the driver's side. My son has my camera, or I would post a picture. It is tucked away, out-of-the-way, but also fairly close to the red box that we tapped for power. This is the same brace that you are supposed to remove in order to access the fusebox. So, it could potentially be a nuisance if you need to remove the fusebox cover often? But, after trying to figure out some preferable place, we settled on there.

Someone else might have an even better place.

Ed

[BKLYNH2]

H2 girl
Wow! you got the real deal from them, congrats I think your the first. I guess they got the full kit sooner than they were predicting. Actually, mine was not even put together,it came "lot's of assembly required" which is why I am not too thrilled with Gowarn either.
I wonder why they(WARN) package the hawse type fairlead with the multimount? I always thought a roller is more desirable.
Skulz- Sounds like your making a good choic for you. Getting all the right parts is somewhat confusing. For instance I had decided not to get the solenoid disconnect and was just going to attach direct to battery. Then the rear cable kit came with the solenoid switch anyway, eventhough this is not explained in the product description. Since it came, I installed it and am now glad I did.
Peter

[TonkaH2]

I meant to ask - when I got my Warn from a local 4X place [they threw in the rear wiring loom for free] I was disappointed to find that the cover they give you won't work with the multi-mount. I may not be smart enough to get it, but it can't be that hard. Anybody figure this out?

Also, I've been running around without the cover on it [with all the flooding we've had here it's been wet a LOT] and I wonder if it can take it...

-Jack
Yellow H2 adv. Warn winch
Can't go traveling yet
www.sunspotnatural.com

[TheGoodHummerMan]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BKLYNH2:
"I got the Warn 9.5ti with multimount + front wiring as a package for $957.00. For clarification the winch comes mounted on the multimount already and the connection plug is installed and sealed to the winch wiring at the factory. The source is GoWarn.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Good luck Peter! I mean better luck than me...

I ordered the 9.5ti multi-mount on April 25th. Paid $150.76 more than you. Oh, did they tell you that the shipping was free? My free shipping from them only cost me $44.86.

When I got the brand new winch, it came in pieces and had to be put together. The FIRST problem was that the 28" cable that was supposed to go from the winch to the front quick release was NOT sent. After contacting GoWarn.com by email (they suggest using email for fastest service) and NOT getting any reply I contacted Warn Corporation and spoke with a representative named Mike McEwen. He informed me that gowarn.com was NOT an authorized dealer. He repeated it when I asked him if he was sure. Said they had heard of them but that they were not authorized dealers. Go figure? Any ways, Mr. McEwen went on to explain to me that it was just as well the short cable was not included because if I had taken the winch apart to install the cable it would have damaged the newly designed seals which are a main feature of this new winch. He said that Warn makes a special KIT for people desiring the 9.5ti with the multi-mount. He suggested that since I had bought the winch from gowarn, a non-authorized dealer, I should contact them to see what I could do about my problem. He was sympathetic, but...

So, I called gowarn and spoke to Angela. She said that they were authorized dealers. She didn't know why Warn would say they were not. She said she was sorry that I had been charged shipping and would issue a credit to my charge card. She said she would also talk to her supervisor and explain my problems. She said someone would be getting back in touch with me.

I decided, on my own, to go ahead and drive 120 miles round-trip to the nearest dealer and buy the quick-disconnect plugs for the winch and instead of opening the winch up, just shorten the 6-foot long battery cables on the new winch. The plugs cost over $35.00 plus my time and gasoline at appx. 11 mpg.

The NEXT problem popped up when I hooked the winch up via the newly installed quick-disconnect plugs. It unreeled but would not reel the winch line back in. I called and talked to Angela again. I told her that I thought that the remote control was bad. The switch worked when flipping it up, but not when you flipped it down. She said that she would check into it immediately and get back with me. I indicated that I was getting quite upset. She said she would take care of everything!

After waiting two days, I called back. Angela acted like she had forgotten to do anything and was a "little" embarrassed... She said she would have her supervisor call me right back.

The NEXT problem popped up when Mr. Michael Weisberger called me back. He told me that the problem was not with the remote control but that I had "blown out the solenoids on the winch". I told him that I had never even used the winch and that it had failed the very first time I tested it. He asked me what I wanted him to do about it. I told him. We exchanged several "heated" comments at which time he said that there was really just no reason why he should bother to help me on a sale that he made maybe at most, $50 on. This is the winch I had just paid $1262.71 for... When I mentioned contacting my credit card company and contesting the charge he said he would contact the police and have me arrested for fraud! When I stopped laughing, I told him that I wouldn't take up any more of his valuable time and was ready to hang up when he said that maybe he could help me after all. He said he would call me right back.

The NEXT problem was when he called back and told me that I was going to have to take the winch back to the dealer in Tampa and have the winch repaired. Another 120 mile trip. The "good news" was that it would be covered under the 90-day warranty! Whoopee.

The winch has been in the repair shop for three days now and I am waiting to hear from the service department.

Oh, by the way, you only need the 20-foot rear cable assembly not the 24-footer. I trimmed about six feet off from the 24-foot rear cable assembly that gowarn sent to me. It "only" costs about $10 extra for the longer cable, but why buy it?

I just did check my credit card and they issued a $45 credit from the $89.86 they charged me for the FREE shipping.

Like I said, good luck...

Ed

[TheGoodHummerMan]

Skulz,

This is a bigger issue than JUST a matter of a winch mount.

The "issue" is caused or was created when GM/AMG decided to use a verticle pin in the front receiver of the Hummer H2. I am not positive, but I think that this "might" be the only verticly pinned receiver in production? Does anyone know of another company that uses a verticle pin?

The simple fact is: in order to USE the front receiver, the hitch's mounting must have a verticle hole for to match the H2's front receiver. Since this is NOT an option standardly offered from any hitch accessory manufacturer (I have gone to several hitch suppliers and had them check their sources) this leaves a H2 owner two choices. Either do not use the front receiver OR adapt each device to fit by drilling a verticle hole. Pretty simple --- one or the other?

So, for example, I want to use my front receiver to position my 30' travel trailer when I get to RV parks. The amount of control is remarkably increased by switching from the rear receiver to the front receiver. I can park it with much better control and precisely align the trailer. BUT, I couldn't do it without drilling a verticle hole...

Does this significantly weaken the hitch's strength? I don't think so. It's just one extra hole in a significant and strong chunk of hardened steel. Regarding towing and not winching, those who are concerned that the hitch might be weakened --- can simply opt to by an extender. This can then be drilled with a verticle hole, and adapt devices to fit on a Hummer H2. That way, when you later return to using the device with the rear hitch it is NOT drilled or weakened. Costs about $29-$59 depending upon the size of the extender you chose, from 6" to 24" in Reese equipment.

Me, I just drilled. Haven't had a problem and the hitch LOOKS fine after towing things or winching.

One other thought. The front hitch is reportedly NOT close to being as strongly designed as the rear. I believe, although I don't have any proof, that the front receiver itself would fail before you would ever have an issue with a the verticly drilled winch mount failing. Something to think about anyway?

As for liability. Show me a company who can disregard ANY matter involving liability and I will show you a company embroiled in litigation. In the litiginous country we live in, comapnies have to go to "ridiculous" lengths to cover their liabilities... So, I am not surprised that Warn has such policies.

Ed

[BKLYNH2]

Thanks Ed thats a great idea. It sure beats spending the coin on the Warn set of jumper cables. I did get my set included in my deal so maybe this experience is turning out better than I thought.
Peter

[Big Z]

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[bklynh2srock]

I was the "price person" since I have more time to troll the net looking for prices. About two or three weeks ago, the lowest price I found for the 90000 w/ multi-mount was about $890.00 w/ free ship. That's not much of a difference for some insurance that you won't burn 'er out.

Can't help with the bent frame question, but in my pea-size winch-inexperienced brain, I can't see how 500lbs extra will make that much of a difference. I think they probably were more concerned with say, a 12,000 lb'er.

[PARAGON]

BKLYNH2

Quit apologizing for posting about this being a good deal until you found out. That's the great thing about this message board. I saw your post, but if I was going to buy the same winch as you, I would have waited to get your results after you installed it.

So, what you have done is save many other forum members from making the same mistake.

[BKLYNH2]

Ok the winch and stuff arrived today. It was NOT as described. Everything is seperate not premounted on the multimount and not with the quick connect already attached. I called GO warn as expected I got a recording. Personally I don't care about mounting it. I am concerned about removing the power leads (red in particular) and therfore messing up the seal. Can anyone tell me if this is something to be concerned about?
Anyway I apologize for posting this thread as a good deal when it apparently is not without its far share of aggrevation.
Peter-

[H2Girl]

When I had called GOWARN to place my order, I questioned them on the problems previously mentioned by other members of this board. They admitted to having some complications with the quick disconnect in some of the first shipped units but assured me that that has been addessed and taken care of. Since they had a supplier in NY, It took only 2 days to arrive to me. Everything was as described and shipping was free as there promotion stated on the website. The multimount did not come predrilled for the vertical mounting pin but that's really easy to drill out as long as you have a 1/2" drill and a 5/8th steel bit. To make it easier, use the rear hitch and place the multimount in sideways and use the hitch holes as guides. I also drilled about 1 1/2" back from the original horizontal holes so that the winch fits closer to the front hitch.
Cincih2: The winch came with everything needed to wire it to the front and the only things I purchased extra was the roller fairlead and 20'extention so I could use the winch in the rear hitch.

[BKLYNH2]

Sorry about that .
The correct part # for the 9.5ti, multi mount combo is WAR65735. Additional items I got where the accessory kit and the 20' cables to wire to the back.
-peter

[PARAGON]

I found this site after seeing a post where someone bought the Cibie lights for their DRL solution. They seem to have put thought into providing the winch setup correctly. They'll even provide the X-line prewound.

Hummer Solutions: Off-Road Equipment

[H2 Daddy]

BKLYNH2
I think we all went through the same thing.

I ordered the 9.5ti with multi-mount through 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers. I also received the the unit with the 6 foot battery cables attached, but I also received the shorter cables with the quick-connect end. So I thought oh no big deal, I will just switch the cables. Holy S#*t, It took me about 5 minutes to take the unit apart and switch the cables, but an hour and a half to get it back together again. During reassembally I started to worry about not being able to get it back together. The spool in the middle of the two cases has a spindle on each end. There are numerous gears on each end of the spindles. In short all the gears have to line up just right before a spindle on one end will drop in. After one end is in, you have to get the other end in and guess what? Once you get the other end in, the first end comes out. After attempting this many times the stars lined up and both ends lined up and the cases when together. What a relief. The winch works perfectly. I have used the winch to pull my H2 out of a high center situation in sand.

The seals didn't seam to be any big deal. They were just O-Rings seated in grease, one at each end. One did fall out of it's race though after I had gotten the spindle on that end in, so I had to take it back apart to put the O-Ring back on.

The Multi-mount was also a pain, but I think I may have caused that problem. When I drilled the vertical hole in the MM, I pushed the MM all the way into the receiver to mark the location of the hole. After I drilled the hole, the lock pin was tight. If I had pulled the MM out a small amount before marking the hole location, I would them have been able to wiggle the MM and locking pin around. I solved the problem by taking the bumper off and enlarging the hole that the locking pin goes through with a rotatory tool. I then primed and painted the bare metal. The locking pin now drops in easily.

[H2Girl]

I just purchased the winch from GOWARN a week ago.
Fast 2 day delivery, no problems and very helpful.
Winch exceeeded my expectations!

[cinci]

H2Girl,

Did the reciever have the vertical mounting pin whole predrilled or did you have to do this yourself? Also, did this come with the wiring for the front mount or was that extra also?

Thanks,
David
Black H2

[BKLYNH2]

I just purchased a winch for a great deal(as far as I've seen) and wanted to share with everyone else that might be looking.
I got the Warn 9.5ti with multimount + front wiring as a package for $957.00. For clarification the winch comes mounted on the multimount already and the connection plug is installed and sealed to the winch wiring at hte factory. The source is gowarn the part # is WAR32963. This is a brand new option and may not be up on the site yet. If you go to the winch mounting options page select, HummerH2 this page displays a different contact phone # which seems to work better. Call them for ordering this set up and they can set you up with anything else you'll need