cruise control sucks donky ding dongs!!!

[TheGoodHummerMan]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by NSXer:
"what can we do? does anyone have an inside connection somewhere at gm? Surely, they didn't expect the cruise to work like it does!"<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
NSXer:

I don't have any "inside connections" but I just called the U.S. Hummer Customer Assistance Center (866-486-6376) and was told that there are no recalls or corrections for this problem. I was also told that they could not find any other reports about it, then was given a File number (1-112321502) and they suggested I take it in and have it checked by my dealer.

I don't plan on making a special trip to check on it, but the next time I get up that way (~70 miles away) I plan on "checking" with the dealer.

If anyone else calls in, it will be interesting to see if Hummer still says that no one else has reported this problem...

Ed

[Big Z]

As Good A Reason As Any! NSXer

[TheGoodHummerMan]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MAC:
"I have no leak, no rust, no paint chips, no problem with cruise control or suspension or transmission, no rattle, no dirty look, trouble free turn key operation every happy day. I don't think I am the only one."<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Mac,

Oh shut up!

You keep posting stuff like that and we will HAVE to start calling you Mr. Rodgers...

Just a little bit too much "feely goody" for me, anyways. Maybe it's time to CUT way back on your Prozac? Check with your doctor first though!

Ed

[MAC]

I have no problem giving $2 to valet, that is already $1 more or 100% more than what I think it should be. It is $2.50 for 20 minutes, $15 parking for a lunch. My money is always happier in my pocket than in his pocket, that is a proven scientic fact.

I hate giving tips. Why should I give tips or gifts to mailman or newspaper man (not boys) or garbage men, they are doing their job as they should, no one ever tip me for doing my job, why in the world should I tip them? In many ways I think tipping them would be an insult to them. I am not even joking about it.

[NSXer]

That's what this thread is all about! to find out if my "cruise control condition" is normal. It appears it is... and I hate it! I appreciate the advice... Obviously the cruise is working like they designed it, which sucks, and I'll call customer service and let them know. Thanks.

Meanwhile, I'm adding the intake, exhaust, and programmer to see if that little bit of extra power will let it stay in gear.... at least that's how I'll justify the cost. hehehe!!!!

If you like bikes... Check out http://www.usualsuspex.com

[TheGoodHummerMan]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 8MYROVER:
"I had the same problem with mine. First, took it to the dealer and them reprogram the computer. Still was not satisified, then I got the Predator programer and that solved everything, except really steep grades where at around 60-65mph it will kick down to a lower gear. It is the GM torque managment and changing it actually improved my gas mileage."<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Hey 8-up, great info! Most encouraging to hear that the "problem" can be remedied!!! I never thought that the cruise control should never cause the transmission to downshift, and on steep hills it is of course "NORMAL" behavior... Depending upon one's deinition of steep though?

Anyhow, thanks for throwing in your most interesting experiences! I feel better already!

Hey Chris! Come on man, Mac is only debating... I am only debating... If you have gotten tired of our "garbage" I sincerely apologize for myself, but what's the harm?

Stop talking? Garbage? Awfully harsh criticism and when did Jason put you in charge? Although, any moderator would probably give both, Mac and I, a "time-out" penalty.

Understandably, I really like the way Jason has set this forum up and let's one ramble on and on... Maybe it isn't as much fun for the poor folks who have to read all of my incoherent ramblings?

Ed

[BADRAP]

Ok, have had programmer installed now for several days, I used the cruise control over this weekend and I have been using premium unleaded fuel as required and I saw some improvement. Although the cruise control still kicked down, it did not do so until I was way up on a bridge or overpass, and did not do it all the time. I kept it set at 70 mph...So if that is info, hope it helps...I am installing the Airaid stuff this week and the TB will be on tomorrow. Still going to do the Mass Air Flow sensor this week too.. I will follow with more updates....

If you want to get a programmer just let me know..Also have the airaid stuff too..

BADRAP
03 H2, Lux, Pewter, Granatelli Diablo Programmer, Airaid intake, TB Spacer, more stuff soon..
H2 Club - Houston Chapter..
badrap@sbcglobal.net

[Big Z]

Does it do what it's suppose to do??--Yes.
Does it do It Differently than your use to?-- reason for the thread.
Is It, Like Nothing Else? Absolutly.
Is it working correctly?--I think so!
I use the cruse a lot. I thought there was something wrong at first also, but have since, changed my mind. What I thought was annoying, was the H2 trying to maintain the set speed, (what ever the load) for the weight, and terrain it's in. The H2 Will downshift 2 or 3 gears to maintain your setpoint. Small inclines, overpasses, and hills, Pull it Down to third or just let it do it's thing.

[NSXer]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> If you do NOT have the cruise control on and you approach a relatively FLAT overpass my H2 does not shift down in order to maintain the speed. As a matter of fact, I can speed up while going over an overpass and not cause the transmission to shift down to a lower gear.

But, with the cruise control on, going over the very same overpass, the transmission downshifts, engine rpms increase and almost immediately the transmission shifts back into fourth gear. It is still annoying to me...
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Exactly!!!! I'd understand if the H2 couldn't maintain the speed while driving "manually", but it does it just fine! What gives??? I'll call Customer Assistance also. We'll see...

If you like bikes... Check out http://www.usualsuspex.com

[TheGoodHummerMan]

After paying closer attention, I have now determined that sometimes my H2 will downshift on a given overpass, but sometimes on the same exact overpass at the same exact speed --- it does not downshift. How is that for inconsistent behavior? Also, I've noticed that occassionally it only shifts from 4th back into 3rd gear --- but sometimes, it jumps all the way into 2nd gear which is when it is NOT smooth or negligible. Depending upon your definition of what smooth is?

Mac, you don't HAVE to tip anyone. Tipping is optional, based generally upon rewarding certain service groups for doing good jobs, maybe based upon service received at above and beyond the norm???

I don't have a mailman, I get mail at a Post Office Box, so I don't tip the "mailman". I know a couple of mailmen though, and every year at Christmas, they get considerable tips from some people, but nothing from others. They do NOT feel insulted when someone tips them! Maybe your mailman just does a really lousy job?

Why would it make a difference if you have a newspaper BOY or newspaper delivery MAN? You'd tip a boy, but not an adult? Truly weird... Is your paper delivered every day on time and on the porch, or in your TUBE? Or do you walk way out to get the paper only to find it not delivered? You See, Mac, you reward for GOOD service and withhold tips if you get LOUSY service, whether it is a man, boy or alien lifeform providing the service to you. But, I can't help but think that you already know all of this perfectly well and that perhaps you are just so destitute that you can't afford to tip and use this excuse as a way of making your despicable performance, justifiable.

Hey Mac, do you really mean that all of those years when you were a garbage man that no one ever tipped you?

One thing's for sure at least... No one will probably ever be accused of calling you a Big Tipper. I wonder how many times you get the same waiter/waitress that you previously stiffed and who remembers your lack of generosity and "repays" you by spitting in your food?

Or, do you tip waitresses and not waiters, or only if they are young?

Ed

[Albie]

Yeah NS, I have the same freaken problem.... another Issue is when I want to speed up with the CC it downshifts too.

[buddy]

Appreciative, considerate people usually tip and also give seasonal gifts. Service techs, mail carriers, mechanics, are accustomed to receiving gifts during the holiday season, and they are very appreciative.

Those who tip, usually "get taken care of", you might even say they're VIP's. Mechanics just have a better attitude when dealing with a smiling, appreciative person...and that person will always be looked after. In home service techs will render superior service to those who are considerate.

Ever send a thank you card to a customer? Same thing. WE appreciate your business. It's just a personal, "Thank You".

I enjoy tipping and showing my graditude.

Buddy

[TheGoodHummerMan]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BADRAP:
"Although the cruise control still kicked down, it did not do so until I was way up on a bridge or overpass, and did not do it all the time. I kept it set at 70 mph...So if that is info, hope it helps."<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Thanks for the report Badrap! Not sure if it helps much though. My cruise control doesn't always cause a downshift either and it already does it only when "way up on a bridge or overpass". It doesn't sound like the programmer had much affect on this matter.

Did you turn off the H2's torque management? I am not sure what it is, I've just read that it can be turned off...

Maybe if you tweak and fine tune the computer's settings at some point it will make a difference?

Anyway, thanks again, Ed

[MAC]

To lend you money to buy a supercharger will be like giving money to the homeless man to buy drug.

Aren't you glad that I called you "cheap, experienced, old and wise"? that gave you the opportunity to went on and on. I would think "cheap, experienced, old and wise" is a compliment by any standard, hallmarks of success, surely you'd agree. The reverse is "wasteful, inexperienced, young and stupid", which would you like? You haven't lived a full life not to appreciate being "cheap, experienced, old and wise".

Many other members have in the past 9 months said in plain and simple direct English that Supercharger is fraud, but not Mr. Niceguy like me. I certainly have my opinion but not directly expressed yet, when I do, you'll know for sure.
Prove me wrong, go buy a supercharger.

[TheGoodHummerMan]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MAC:
"Ed. just remember I tipped the valet $2 at the country club where the drink is $5-$7 + tip, and it was not my $2. Now try to beat me on that. Dare to give $1 valet tip?"<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Mac,

Mirror, mirror, on the wall, who's the cheapest 'skate' of all?

Well, if you dare me? How about if I tip 50 cents, or maybe even a dime? I would say what about not tipping at all, but that could be accidental or an over-sight... Right Chris?

The next time you come to Sarasota or on my next visit to "Cisco" (I understand that locals hate it when dumb tourists call it Cisco?), we can get together for dinner or drinks, your choice. If I tip the valet guy say, a quarter (25 cents) you buy, if I wimp out and tip a fiver ($5) --- I'll pick up the tab. Fair enough? The winner gets to claim the title of "cheapest bas#ard"???

I don't know if I can actually go thru with stiffing a poor valet parker who really does depend upon tips for pay... That would be pretty low, that's for sure, even for me! But, maybe for free drinks or drinks and dinner? Maybe lobster? Yummm! I don't know, but since you laid down the dare, I'll toss the ball back into your court...

Feeling lucky, punk?

Ed

A wise man once said: "Look both ways before crossing the road."

[TheGoodHummerMan]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MAC:
"Ed, you are too cheap, experienced, old and wise to fall for programmer or supercharger." <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Mac,

I once knew a guy who would go berzerk if someone called him an SOB. Took it as a personal insult to his sainted mother...

I never understood why he was so sensitive about some stranger calling him this. Someone who didn't know him at all, let alone anything personal about his mother's character... I mean, you have to take comments in their appropriate context. Like your...

I am too cheap? Too experienced? Too old & wise?



Gee, Mac, I thought you were too smart to fall into the trap of presuming facts not in evidence. I know you posture as someone suffering from an elitist attitude and that you act as htough you believe that, for some unfathomable reason, you are superior to other people. I don't have a clue why you would be suffering from such delusions. I suppose it really doesn't even matter why?

I just purchased a piece of commercial real estate that I happened to believe is a truly great investment and bargain. But, during the closing, I took exception with a part of the final sales contract involving, $1,750. for the property's survey. The selling price was just a little over 2.3 million dollars --- but, the original agreement was that I was NOT responsible for the costs of the survey. Sure, it's just chump change. But, it is MY chump change... Is this an example of a "cheap" person?

After some of the remarks I have heard from various people on this forum about my questioning the pricing of the Predator programmer (see that thread) by the Granatelli folks... I was told that I was silly to worry about just $170 and how I was wasting a dollar to save a dime. This clearly demonstrated to me that SOME people on this forum are complete and utter idiots.

For example, when the H2 dealer informed me that he would remove my third row seat and credit me for $400. I stood up and was walking out of his office. Would I refuse to buy the Hummer because he was trying to refund $100 less than the invoice amount of the seat? Oh, you betcha... If I caught a pickpocket stealing a hundred dollar bill out of my pocket, I would get most upset too. If that makes me cheap, in your mind, then I feel sorry for you. Or, better yet, I would love to do business with you. Because if you don't care about a dollar, or five or ten or twenty dollars then why care about a hundred, or five hundred or a couple of thousand dollars.

The actual amount is NOT even important. It is simply and purely a matter of principle. The only thing that really differentiates one person and another are their stand on principals. Someone who will steal something small, but draw the line at say, grand theft auto --- is still a dishonest thief. Someone who will not worry about "chump change" simply has too much money and they should give me their execess funds.

You were partially right... I am old enough and wise enough to decide for myself about the value of goods and services without needing the blessings of somebody I don't even know. After doing research and learning enough basic information to make an informed decision --- I might in fact decide to buy a supercharger for my H2. Hopefully I won't need to ask the bank for a loan to cover the expense, or even check with my wife to see if she will give me permission to spend the money.

I only have the one son, a veteran of the first Iraqi war, and while I did already seek his opinion, I don't have to worry that I am squandering his inheritance on something frivolous, like the supercharger. I have a few bucks left...

Sure, I buy my Mobil1 at Wal-Mart in a five-quart container because I can save a buck or two. I buy the K&N oil filters by the dozen to get a better price. Is that the sign of a cheap person? Spending over $60,000 for a Hummer H2 (with tax, tag and title) but trying to save a buck or two on oil and filters? Cheap? Hummmm.

Maybe you earned the money to buy your Hummer some other way. Me, I earned it legally, fair and square, and I believe that I have a healthy respect for the value of a DOLLAR. Heck, if you save up enough dollars --- you can even afford a H2 or even a supercharger for it.

Notice how many Lingenfelter H2's different folks on the forum have? If you pay close attention, you'll even see that many people have whipple chargers, MagnaChargers or other superchargers.... For you to then infer that these people are unwise seems pretty bold...

Hey Mac, maybe you could lend a good guy a few bucks for a supercharger?

Ed

[Big Z]

Another difference a lot of folks don't consider is the Different Gear Ratios.

[OUSUCKS]

I concur...it sucks ass.

[MAC]

According to my observation, with cruise control on, even on very constant steep climb, I am talking about 7,000 ft elevation mountain pass not freeway overpass, the speed remained constantly same. There were downshifts with RPM jump, but the RPM drops down soon. The downshifts sounded and felt quite smooth. All that seems quite logical to me, the auto is trying to maintain a steady preset speed going up hill, doing what it was ordered to do.

Where's my programer! Dude! HAHA!

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