Jeep JK parked Next to an H3

[Beastmaster]

Originally Posted by buy_a_legend

Because out of the box, your not even close, get to back of the line and take your true place with the FJ Criuse whatever. Couldn't even come close, and please, you don't own the real thing,.....you guys are killing me with this real thing statement....does that actually fix your sadness & feeling sick at your stomach when you pull up beside a Rubi" , and you have to put your eyes down to road. Don't respond....you can't,,,,, thanks kids.

Yes...I always look down when I pull up next to a Rubi...I try to be kind and not throw up on other people's vehicles. Sometimes my aim is off....

There's a reason why the military replaced the Jeep...

[The ArchiTexan]

Originally Posted by buy_a_legend

....does that actually fix your sadness & feeling sick at your stomach when you pull up beside a Rubi" , and you have to put your eyes down to road.

NO, not really! ......modified Heep?

[lamric]

Originally Posted by Interleukin

Dimensions from Jeep and HUMMER websites:

JK
Height - 70.8
Length - 173.4
Width - 73.9

H3
Height - 73.7
Length - 186.7
Width - 85.5

Here are the dimensions listed in the Jeep brochure:

Height -72.3
Length -184.4
Width -73.9
Wheelbase - 116
Ground clearance 10.5"
Crawl ratio for Unlimited Rubicon 73:1

[mudderducker]

I used to sell jeep. I owned a lifted Land Rover Discovery at the time (caught much UNWARRANTED grief). Kinda like mustang owners that get their ass handed to them every time they line up to a camaro or trans am, yet they continue to talk sh!t. If anyone here thinks that a jeep is superior in ANY way to a HUMMER H3 (H2 or H1), they have never driven the HUMMER and they more than likely are gay or pose at the walmart parking lot with the other posers. apparently, jeep is huge in the gay community, no offense to the gay wheelin homeys

after having my fillings shaken out of my teeth, while on a particular demo drive (2005 Unlimited Rubi) at a rock quarry near the dealership, I decided I could no longer lie to my customers and sought employment elsewhere. The jeep sucks offroad.

HOWEVER!!! I would test drive the new rubi, in hopes that the longer wheelbase may help tone down the ride. it certainly has more promise for my needs than anything jeep has produced in the past. It's certainly better than the FJ as far as I can tell.

[Demo]

Originally Posted by mudderducker

I used to sell jeep. I owned a lifted Land Rover Discovery at the time (caught much UNWARRANTED grief). Kinda like mustang owners that get their ass handed to them every time they line up to a camaro or trans am, yet they continue to talk sh!t. If anyone here thinks that a jeep is superior in ANY way to a HUMMER H3 (H2 or H1), they have never driven the HUMMER and they more than likely are gay or pose at the walmart parking lot with the other posers. apparently, jeep is huge in the gay community, no offense to the gay wheelin homeys

after having my fillings shaken out of my teeth, while on a particular demo drive (2005 Unlimited Rubi) at a rock quarry near the dealership, I decided I could no longer lie to my customers and sought employment elsewhere. The jeep sucks offroad.

HOWEVER!!! I would test drive the new rubi, in hopes that the longer wheelbase may help tone down the ride. it certainly has more promise for my needs than anything jeep has produced in the past. It's certainly better than the FJ as far as I can tell.

I too sold Jeeps had jeeps and a lifted Land Rover Disco. These guys that hate H3's so much have never driven an H3. I don't think it is possible to drive an H3 and not want it. I am keeping my eye on this, I just can't help it. http://www.autoblog.com/2006/10/25/d...-jeep-at-sema/

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

You know its only my personal thoughts

BUT

Hasn't this thread been BEATEN TO DEATH



RYD

[buy_a_legend]

Kid's, I really didn't think the truth would ever upset you all, .......... Now children, I ask you not to respond because you can't.
after all those childish "ICONS" and absolutely useless statements(that I could of wrote instead of you kids)) is exactly why
I ask you not to respond. Please, do just like a wolf pack, just roll over and lay on your back and whine when your superior
pulls up beside you.....I'm begging you, please don't even try to act equal, you can't, you're only making the Jeep owner
laugh at you, and I know how embarrassed you'll be. Again, take your place in the line behind, ya I know, you wish the Jeep wasn't even around so you would move up a notch, We really all fill sorry for you, but that won't happen. Now please settle down and take proper place in the line, don't be ashame, you do have a very good average vehicle, be proud of that damm it. See no " silly "ICONS"

[The Green Lantern]

Originally Posted by buy_a_legend

Kid's, I really didn't think the truth would ever upset you all, .......... Now children, I ask you not to respond because you can't.
after all those childish "ICONS" and absolutely useless statements(that I could of wrote instead of you kids)) is exactly why
I ask you not to respond. Please, do just like a wolf pack, just roll over and lay on your back and whine when your superior
pulls up beside you.....I'm begging you, please don't even try to act equal, you can't, you're only making the Jeep owner
laugh at you, and I know how embarrassed you'll be. Again, take your place in the line behind, ya I know, you wish the Jeep wasn't even around so you would move up a notch, We really all fill sorry for you, but that won't happen. Now please settle down and take proper place in the line, don't be ashame, you do have a very good average vehicle, be proud of that damm it. See no " silly "ICONS"

My heart goes out to you!!

[The Green Lantern]

Originally Posted by buy_a_legend

Kid's, I really didn't think the truth would ever upset you all, .......... Now children, I ask you not to respond because you can't.
after all those childish "ICONS" and absolutely useless statements(that I could of wrote instead of you kids)) is exactly why
I ask you not to respond. Please, do just like a wolf pack, just roll over and lay on your back and whine when your superior
pulls up beside you.....I'm begging you, please don't even try to act equal, you can't, you're only making the Jeep owner
laugh at you, and I know how embarrassed you'll be. Again, take your place in the line behind, ya I know, you wish the Jeep wasn't even around so you would move up a notch, We really all fill sorry for you, but that won't happen. Now please settle down and take proper place in the line, don't be ashame, you do have a very good average vehicle, be proud of that damm it. See no " silly "ICONS"

My Condolences to you.....

[KenP]

Originally Posted by mudderducker

If anyone here thinks that a jeep is superior in ANY way to a HUMMER H3 (H2 or H1), they have never driven the HUMMER. Or you've never driven the JK Rubi. I have and we all just have to accept the fact that the Rubi will be better offroad than the 2 or the 3.

after having my fillings shaken out of my teeth, while on a particular demo drive (2005 Unlimited Rubi) at a rock quarry near the dealership, I decided I could no longer lie to my customers and sought employment elsewhere. The jeep sucks offroad. You can't compare the JK with the old TJ. It's ride was surprisingly smooth and stable.

HOWEVER!!! I would test drive the new rubi You should., in hopes that the longer wheelbase may help tone down the ride It does. . it certainly has more promise for my needs than anything jeep has produced in the past. It's certainly better than the FJ as far as I can tell.True.

Don't respond irrationally. The JK is going to out-wheel the 2 and the 3. That's just the way it is and we all have to live with it. Big deal. Our interiors are far superior and the creature comforts crush the Jeep.

Only one person on this board has driven AND wheeled with JKs and it's Paragon. PM him if you'd like details.

You can also search for the pics of the JK's on the Rubicon. They ran it stock, save for a couple of winch bumpers, in half the time the last Hummer group did.

[Huck BB62]

I agree that on the gnarliest of stuff, the smaller size and the front locker make the Rubicon the winner. Here's the HUGE difference though (to state the glaringly obvious) How many jeeps do you see being trailered to the trailhead vs. Hummers? That's all there is to say about that.

You can commute in a trail capable H3 in great comfort, hell, we've done long road trips in ours. While it's not nearly as nice as our Denali, it was no big deal. You'd have to threaten me with driving a Pious before I'd take a Rubicon on a long road trip, PARTICULARLY one that was set up for trail work.

I wanted a Rubicon Unlimited so bad I could taste it. A road test in both machines made this old fart change his mind. That dumbassed rough ride, choppy handling, NOISY AS HELL interior and the lame way you have to pick your knee up to your chin every single time you get in and out were things that didn't bother me when I was twenty.

[NEOCON1]

can we trade front ends ??????? the jeep is pretty nice

[ajburton13]

I'm between buying the 4 door JK and the H3, but actually with GMID pricing and 0%, the H3 is a better value, never thought I would say that, but it is. That and I will soon move out west and spend time in snow, so I think the H3 would be a better vehicle in the snow and all-around. I do agree that I wish the aftermarket was better for the H3, but then again, it's pretty nice in stock form to begin with.

[yzergod]

Originally Posted by ajburton13

I will soon move out west and spend time in snow, so I think the H3 would be a better vehicle in the snow and all-around.

With the traction control, it is AMAZING in snow! Especially when the roads are plowed and the white stuff keeps coming down and you see a bunch of econoboxes all off it the ditches! You'll love that!

[Huck BB62]

Originally Posted by yzergod

With the traction control, it is AMAZING in snow! Especially when the roads are plowed and the white stuff keeps coming down and you see a bunch of econoboxes all off it the ditches! You'll love that!

I drive in the snow a lot. This is just my opinion. The traction control is great for putting around. If you need to get a little quick, TURN IT OFF. It gets dicey when you go faster in the snow with the traction control turned on. It'll understeer you right off the road. To boogey in the snow, turn it off and then you can steer with the throttle. Try it next time, it's true.