Possible move to Salt Lake City, UT

[H3.007]

Greetings all,

I may have a chance to transfer to the Salt Lake City area. From the discussions here, that entire area is HOT for H3 off roading. But I am completely unfamiliar with the territory.

Does anyone have real estate guide suggestions as well as suggestions and opinions on where to/not to live, cost of living (both rental and residence pruchase), general commute times and traffic patterns, what the shopping and eating are like, and what other activities are raging out there? Basically, anything you can tell me would be of assistance in my decision. I only have 15 days to apply for the transfer so quick replies would be greatly appreciated!

[NEOCON1]

not sure about SLC but utah is the $hit , we are the reddest of the red states not nearly as many mormons as everyone thinks and you can have as many wives as you want ( not really ).

come on out to the frontier you will love it

actually there are some guys on here more familliar with Salt Lake that can give you better answers . we just moved in October and live in the boonies compared to SLC.

just hope you dont mind it being cold for a few months a year .

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

Originally Posted by NEOCON1

not sure about SLC but utah is the $hit , we are the reddest of the red states not nearly as many mormons as everyone thinks and you can have as many wives as you want ( not really ).

come on out to the frontier you will love it

actually there are some guys on here more familliar with Salt Lake that can give you better answers . we just moved in October and live in the boonies compared to SLC.

just hope you dont mind it being cold for a few months a year .

Exactly what is a few and what do you mean by cold???

RYD

[NEOCON1]

nov , dec , jan lows in the teens and 20's but do get some highs to 50-60 range lately mid 20's for the low and mid 50's for the high . i thought maybe the FEW you were asking about was the # of wives you can have you can really rack up the ex's here

[evldave]

I think you should move there just to live in a city that can be abbreviated SL,UT.

[H3.007]

LOL - I never thought of that Evil! "SL, UT"

Where do you guys live if it isn't in the city? I'd be more interested in "the boonies" for a residence, with a quick commute to the city. I don't prefer city living... or the subrubs for that matter. The latter is one reason I like the thought of the move.

Interestingly, I do see the divorce and separation rate is quite high there. What is up with that?

I also saw that the hunting and firearm carrying laws are on par or are somehwat more leanient than those here in PA. That is a bonus.
What is "huntable" in UT? Besides the women? Also, what is the male to female ratio like?

Some cold I can handle. We have winter in PA typically (except this year) from November through April. And we experience temps sometimes into the low twenties tozero range for weeks, even months. I suspect the temps and snowfall in SL,UT are milder.

Thanks again,
Chris

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

Originally Posted by NEOCON1

nov , dec , jan lows in the teens and 20's but do get some highs to 50-60 range lately mid 20's for the low and mid 50's for the high . i thought maybe the FEW you were asking about was the # of wives you can have you can really rack up the ex's here

DAM, my disability check only goes so far, and you want me to have more XXXXX...

RYD

[K9sH3]

Originally Posted by H3.007

Does anyone have real estate guide suggestions

www.homesandland.com

[H3.007]

Thanks for the updates and words of wisdom

If I may, I'd like to ask a more sensitive question. I have now spoken to a couple of folks who used to live out there. They indicated that if you are not of the Mormon faith, you should really stay out of that area. One gave an example of his business being black listed because he was not of the faith. Another stated that hiring services, such as contractors, can be a real nightmare also if you are not of the faith.
Is this true or just stereotyped hype?

While I am not of the faith, I am a big believer in religious freedom. In other words, I don't tread on others unless they tread on me...

[dochummer]

Hype.

Most mormons also believe in religious freedom - ie, that's why they settled the Salt Lake area. You have to understand though, that the religion has a very open proselyting system in place, and they are very eager to share their beliefs. It doesn't give them an excuse however to not be respectful of others. If they are, in fact, black-listing business' because of faith, then they're not practicing what they're preaching.

Like Neo said, there are a lot more non-mormons that live in the area than you would expect. I personally liked living there when I did....more because of the outdoor activities available. Most people were genuinely nice to you....more so than where I live now....

Originally Posted by H3.007

Thanks for the updates and words of wisdom

If I may, I'd like to ask a more sensitive question. I have now spoken to a couple of folks who used to live out there. They indicated that if you are not of the Mormon faith, you should really stay out of that area. One gave an example of his business being black listed because he was not of the faith. Another stated that hiring services, such as contractors, can be a real nightmare also if you are not of the faith.
Is this true or just stereotyped hype?

While I am not of the faith, I am a big believer in religious freedom. In other words, I don't tread on others unless they tread on me...

[dochummer]

Oh, and on the flip-side, I've actually heard of people saying they prefer not to come to my office because I'm mormon. - so I guess the door swings both ways......

[RuggedH2]

Originally Posted by H3.007

Thanks for the updates and words of wisdom

If I may, I'd like to ask a more sensitive question. I have now spoken to a couple of folks who used to live out there. They indicated that if you are not of the Mormon faith, you should really stay out of that area. One gave an example of his business being black listed because he was not of the faith. Another stated that hiring services, such as contractors, can be a real nightmare also if you are not of the faith.
Is this true or just stereotyped hype?

While I am not of the faith, I am a big believer in religious freedom. In other words, I don't tread on others unless they tread on me...

As far as the Mormons in SLC goes; it is seriously no big deal. Yes they are by far the most predominate religion here. I have many friends that are, and many friends that are not. They don't act very different than anybody else. We are a very conservative red state though, that can be different, here in America.

The biggest thing seems to be, many live what they believe. That can seem strange to people not familiar with those beliefs. For an example, they don't drink alcohol, they don't drink coffee or smoke. They don't cuss very much and they can go to several different meetings a week depending what they do in the church. The Mormon church doesn't have "clergy", the members hold all the positions in the church until you get up to the very top.

If you understand that is what they believe, it's not strange. Most people from outside here, get used to the way it is quickly and even learn the Mormon terminology, in order to understand what they are talking about.

I laughed about the girl question because they are very firm believers in family. One dad, one mom, lots of kids. Girls are raised to be modest both in the way they dress and behave. Many moms here do not work regular jobs, they stay home and raise the kids. They shuttle the kids to sports and school meetings and dance classes. It is kinda like the 50's in that regard. I like it, it's kinda innocent in a way that I preferred for my family. that's why I moved here after growing up in Denver and living in California with the Corps.

SLC has everything every other American city has, you will find whatever you go looking for. It has fantastic outdoor opportunities, and for me it is just the right size. It is big enough to have everything without being big enough to make getting around a pain in the butt.

Chris come on out, I would bet you love it! BUT stop making me tell everybody else! If word really gets out, traffic will get worse and they will learn a term unknown now, "lift lines". During the week here, there is no such thing.

[H3.007]

Thanks again for all of the info.

The Mormans almost sound like they live like the Amish do here. I have a great respect for the Amish. In fact, there are times I wish I could live their life - but I couldn't go without a beer, computer, and the H3. And the hairy women - YIKES. But as far as the Mormons, I think I'll write that off as "hype".

I communicated with a real estate agent this morning and I am awaiting a relocation package from the city.

So, if anyone knows of a real estate parcel that would be conducive to country and somewhat self-sufficent living, drop me a line. I do like my privacy and I wouldn't mind being able to drop a deer with a rifle from the back porch of my new home or to have an H3 trail in the backyard .

[RuggedH2]

You're right Neo!

What does kinda piss me off, are the libs that come out here and love it because it is the way it is.

Then they start trying to change it to be the way it was, where they came from..... the same place they hated and wanted to move away from.

[NEOCON1]

Originally Posted by 0313H3

! BUT stop making me tell everybody else! If word really gets out, traffic will get worse and they will learn a term unknown now, "lift lines". During the week here, there is no such thing.

X2 LOL yea utah sux stay where your at


we gotta keep our lil bit of paradise a secret