Heads Up Display?

[Boar-Ral]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RLTAZH2:
We are waiting on one part to come in. It is due anytime and BlownZ06 will rap it up quickly. We are so close it hurts. The part was backordered but, We cannot advance without it. The crazy thing is it is like a $25 thing holding up a bunch of investment so far. But, that is the way it usually is. A dime holding up a $20,000 car from being given back to it's owner.
Seriously there are no 2 people wanting to get this done now than Z06 and TAZ. He is being careful to make sure it all works and running down the pins to get info etc. He is building a seamless design for install and trying to make it as plug and play as possible. We just cannot get any farther towards those things till that little part gets in.
TAZ </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I am looking forward to seeing this project to completion. I have wanted to install a GM HUD system for years, and if this can all be built into a box we can mount on the dash above the instrument cluster, it would be fantastic. I really do not want to cut into the dashboard. Good luck with the project, and let us know if you make any progress.

[tower]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Black 05:
looks like this </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Man, that looks great! Taz, thanks for all your diligence on this. If this comes off, you will be quite the hero! If not, your efforts are really appreciated.

[LasVegas]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Cool Jonahs have You been able to find anymore info or if it will be available here soon? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
They're still working on auto industry acceptance. No marketing date yet.

[HUMMERcustoms.com/TAZ]

Tim
It has not been determied for sure that it will work. BLOWNZ06, Myself, and a couple of other guys are trying to figure it out.
I first thought it would take the Vette cluster hooked to projector to translate the feed for the projector.
What I'm justing scratching the surface on is after talking to a few Chevy Vette techs there is the possiblity that the HUD controls on the left of Vette cluster is a microprocessor that decodes feed for projector. so right now I'm running down that lead to see if it correct. There seems to be an agreement between Hummer tech and Vette tech that the previuosly mentioned HUD controller translating deal may be the only way to do it.
BLOWNZ06 has located a full cluster and projector with the HUD controls. Before We start tearing into that I'm trying to confirm that we do not need the cluster. If We do not need cluster We will have to get with Hummer tech after We find out where the feed to processor has to come from and it is possible that it has to come from several areas at once. Waiting on email replies from 2 guys. I plan on having it on if it can be done.
We will keep updates posted as We progress but, right now nothing to really report.
Anyone who would like talk to a Vette tech and find out where the feeds come from for the Vette then We may be bale to find those feeds in H2 but, could just come from a different VCM/ECM/PCM source etc.
TAZ

[LasVegas]

Here's a link to a complete HUD system. HUD

Defi-Link Head Up Display (HUD) - VSD Concept



This product is a full-scale Head Up Display (HUD).



Primary Functions

*Displays Speedometer (digital display) and

*Displays Tachometer (bar, digital display)

*Adjusts the brightness automatically

*Special display (displays engine speed at the time of idling)

*High visibility display by adopting V.S.D. technology (super high bright VFD)

*The brightness is adjusted automatically. (Sensor is included in the product.)

*Two super high brightness LED indicators are included for configurable warning indicators.

*The structure of the installation allows angled adjustment.

*Optionally displays a range of other data – Oil pressure, Water temp etc (See at bottom for more information)



About the Dim Sensor

Self dimmer control system (Dim sensor is attached).

The brightness of the display is adjusted automatically. The brightness decreases when driving through a tunnel or at night.



About the LED Indicators

Green and red LEDs with super high brightness are provided as indicators. LEDs light according to the value set up for WARNING variables. The WARNING values can be set.



Optional Functions when combined with Defi-link Control Unit II (Sold Separately)

Defi-Link Display VSD CONCEPT and sensors need to be connected to Defi-link Control Unit II to obtain the following functionality.

*Oil pressure(bar, digital display)

*Oil temperature(digital display)

*Water temperature(digital display)

*Fuel pressure(bar, digital display)

*Exhaust temperature(digital display)

*Warning function(LED, digital display)

*Replay function

*Record function

*Indicates warning for not only the displayed information but also the information which is not displayed.

*Warm-up display(for water temperature or oil temperature)

*A terminal to read out the water or oil temperature

*A terminal to connect Defi-Link Meter

[BLOWNZO6]

Hey all.. WOW... lots of interest here.. this is great.

I just got home at 9pm tonight.. my box of parts is here. Hoping to get this wired up tomorrow.. depends on what is going on. I think I will have some time to get it working very quickly.

Will update you guys when I have more information.

[BLOWNZO6]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Black 05:
Thanks for the update. are you going to be at the SEMA show in Vegas in Nov.???? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes Rick is going to be there.. I will be around as well. Going out on Nov 1 and staying until the 5th. Will be nice to meet him finally.

We are working on a few things together, I hope we can get to some sort of solution by the time SEMA is around. A few hurdles to get over as far as packaging goes, but the unit does work. I had a working Corvette cluster sitting on my front seat in my H2. I sent Rick the prototype harness and cluster for a few more connections that need to be tapped into.

Should be neat when it is done.

[Black 05]

Hi Guy
WOW!!! You guys are doing a great job. I hope all goes well for you on the rest of the project. I wish I could help in some way. I can't wait to see the finished product. Thanks for keeping us posted.

[tower]

Grat info, BLOWNZ06! Also, Taz, I'm thinking binary is binary so it should work. If there is an impedance mismatsh or translation issue (open vs. closed), that should be easy enough to overcome.

[LasVegas]

Awwwwwwwwww don't resign TAZ. I'd miss your grammar and interesting posts. Cool it Chuck. Who cares.

I haven't had much time to think about the HUD idea but if the Corvette cluster is compatable with H2 and both could operate at the same time why couldn't you just take the individual gauges out of the Corvette cluster and put them in a "hide away" box somewhere? Question would be can you make both clusters operate at the same time?

[HUMMERcustoms.com/TAZ]

What will be allot of help is for anyone who is interested start asking questions of Hummer Tech's, Vette tech's and try to help find a HUD projector and HUD control panel that may not end up in anybodys rig but, We need something to experiment on and like to get something fairly priced so if We mess it up We can get another and not repeat the same mistake. My contact says it should not be hard as long as We do not want to add all the message center and warning lights. He said to keep factory cluster running and the HUD will be completely functional on it's own. Ask anybody in the automotive businsess what they know or can find out etc. Right now We have got to have HUD controller and projector to bench test on. The controller is a set of swithces on the left side of cluster built into vette dash. As I mentioned it has the prossesor that translates so projector can perform the ask. BLOWNZ06 has volunteered to do the bench testing.
We have just got to get Him some info for a jumping off point.
I think this is something that offroaders could use as well as us show blinged out Mall Queens.

Please PM Me or send info to riclove@gmail.com.
Thanks
TAZ

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Black 05:
Keep up the good work. If I could help I would. If this is possible to do, I am sure you will figured it out. I am very interested in installing this in my H2 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

[HUMMERcustoms.com/TAZ]

BLOWNZ06 is trying very hard to make it a seamless install. He has several ideas. We are or He is going to disamantle the dash to see which will be the best way to mount it. fortunately Z06 is an engineer for a large plastic injection molding company and travels allot. We do now think We have the last of the parts. Waiting on Him to get with Me. He is trying to see what it would take to remove the panel right over the gauge cluster and do a mold to fit HUD in and reinstall with same texture and colors in what ever H2 it goes in. If a mold will not help then i will have My glass guys work on a mounting system that will look good but, it will look customized. Not off the wall but, like no one else got one like it type deal. Z06 is very sharp and expect Him to have something. It will most likely He and i working together to build and sell them as low as We can so all Hummer Buds can have it if they want. He is the brains and I'm the banker type thing. The main cost probably He and I see is a regular supply of the Vette HUD's at consistant price, He is working on that also. I had looked everywhere for one and had one located about to buy when Z06 PM'd Me and said hold up and He beat My price by over $200 on the complete Hud and speedo cluster with it and i was just buying the HUD. So We are going to try and subsidize the cost by reselling the dash cluster to recoup some of the money invested in buying the HUD in the first place. Does not look like the people with them want to seperate HUD out which is just good business.
We will try hard to get cost down as best We can but, there are just some set cost that We will have no control over. If someone selling the HUD's figure out what We are doing it could cause price to go up. You know supply and demand. What We are thinking once it is perfected Z06 will go out and locate as many as possible along with the parts We have had to wait on and buy up a bunch to stabilize the price for a while at a time. Once We have not been back to buy some for a while the price hopefully will go down and We will jump in and buy a bunch more. He and I are just going to have to run it as a business if for no reason but, to control cost for everyone.
I have learned Z06 is as honest a guy i have met in a while and I gave Him My word and He his that We would work together to get this out to forum Buddies at the best price and so far We have kept Our word to each other and see no reason it will not continue. We are doing our best to help all here. Later We hope to make some money selling them on website and I will take several to every show i compete in and sell some there. Just hold on He is going as fast as He can with his traveling schedule.
Sorry but, on the size of unit the projector is only 2" thick and would not take up much room with a complete box that would have controls etc. on it. Where it will get a little taller is the H2 shield is so straight up and down the projector will have to be mounted tiltled more towards the glass to hit shield at correct angle. No need for special windshield or coating or a layer to add to inside of glass. I did visit with a guy that does retrofits to old Vettes and He says he shoots it right onto factory glass and all he sees is it is a little lighter than with coating. He sent me a pic of HUD on each type of glass and it was barely noticable. The projector uses phosphorous just as the military jet HUD does. I talked to a guy that works for a company near where i live and He designs and builds screens and projector for military and commercial use and He said should not be a problem running it with plain glass.
TAZ

[HUMMERcustoms.com/TAZ]

Thanks Jonahs

TAZ

[HUMMERcustoms.com/TAZ]

We are still progressing. I have the base unit in My hands. I need to hook up to H2 and run some tests for BLOWNZ06 and then send it back so He can decided how to make the unit fit in the H2 dash in a seemless type install.

The H2 is apart and cannot test yet. Just got the complete exhaust back from Jet Coat getting them sterling coated to go with all the chrome and paint underside. We still have allot of the engine bay apart working on chroming but, it is not going well. I'm hoping I do not have to give up on that part. We are doing some unigue things in the engine bay area that I do not think any of the show H2's I have seen have tried or thought of. Not going to give up just yet though. But wearing on My nerves some.

All the electrical is apart with headliner down to mount amps on ceiling and 12" flipdown in the rear for the 3rd row passengers to watch. It will folded down at shows to run sponsor loops on also. Will have 12" touch screen in dash and headrest screens for middle row riders. It is going to be a few more weeks for Us to get all this back together before I can hook up HUD. We are trying to find the most simple way possible to enclose and connect wiring so that it can be done by someone with even just a little ability in the area to install themselves. If not then it can be taken to a sound shop and have them install.
Hoping to come up with a kit so that the rear wheel well cover areas can be removed and new enclosures with subs already mounted along with overhead amps with or without flipdown screen can be installed almost just as a swap out, with running some wires.

Sorry but, it is taking allot longer than We could even have imagined on the HUD. Just having so many projects going on at once It is most likely the last thing We finish. It is working in preleminary tests. I just did not want to slap something half done on My rig and definetly not on someone else's rig. I have to have a great look with install for the shows so hoping in another 30 to 60 days it will be done. I hope.

TAZ

[Black 05]

I think if you can figure this out you would have a saleable product. I sure would be interested. I liked the HUD in my Corvette.

[tower]

Taz,

You rock! Good luck on everything with the show. I am swamped with work next week and then off to Oceano Dunes (OHRVA) for some low key wheeling. Then my baby is going in for some beauty work. Some 5150 homeless guy decided to take a running start with his shopping cart and shove it into my passenger door while the truck was parked. It's just as well that I didn't catch him. If I had, I'd probably be posting from jail.

So it will be a while before can get a face to face with any techs, but when I do, I'll pursue this.

Taz, I have caught through bits of posts on this site that you had some health issues. I hope you are doing well. You are too nice a guy to have bad fortune.

All my best!

[LasVegas]

TAZ..the above system seems to be available. You can start with a basic system and add from there. For prices just do a search for "defi hud system"

[Black 05]

I still would like to see the Head Up Display from a Corvette work in a H2.

[HUMMERcustoms.com/TAZ]

We are waiting on one part to come in. It is due anytime and BlownZ06 will rap it up quickly. We are so close it hurts. The part was backordered but, We cannot advance without it. The crazy thing is it is like a $25 thing holding up a bunch of investment so far. But, that is the way it usually is. A dime holding up a $20,000 car from being given back to it's owner.
Seriously there are no 2 people wanting to get this done now than Z06 and TAZ. He is being careful to make sure it all works and running down the pins to get info etc. He is building a seamless design for install and trying to make it as plug and play as possible. We just cannot get any farther towards those things till that little part gets in.
TAZ

[Black 05]

looks like this