BRC in Depth

[DennisAJC]

Originally Posted by Greg Mumm

BTW... I find your avitar offensive.

I must apologize for Ken. He's hetrosexual.


All these pretty words BRC use like "Non-Profit", ""Volunteers", "Noble Cause" yet a huge percentage to salary.

At least Sierra club is opened book about their agenda.


Why is it that "Good People" at Seirra Club volunteer their services(2.5%),

And the "Good People" at BRC need to be on a fat payroll(22%)?


If you were to adapt the Sierra model, you should be only burning $25,000.00 for salaries. But shouldn't you be? BRC is a non-profit, volunteer organization right?


I have no problems with what you're trying to sell. It's how you're selling it.

[KenP]

Originally Posted by Greg Mumm

BTW... I find your avitar offensive.

Actually, it's AVATAR, but that's ok.

I can't believe you find this one offensive.

Anyway, I changed it to this one.

Atleast this way everyone knows it's me that loves bewbies.

Seriously, thanks for taking the time to explain your team, your mission, and your goals.

Now stop thinking everything I said was full of inuendo.

[Greg Mumm]

Originally Posted by DennisAJC

I guess those numbers don't include the numerous lawsuits won by BRC?




$561,815.00 in direct public support. $284,689.00 in membership fees. $232,450.00 in Salaries

That's quite disturbing. Impressive burn rate.



Hey Bebes, out of curiosity, are you on BRC's payroll or do you recieve any financial comphensation?

Yes those numbers do include all of our funding including legal actions.

Impressive burn rate? Disturbing? What is disturbing about that? Our top payed position is only $70k a year. It takes good people to get done what we are getting done on behalf of recreation. And we are getting a great deal done as is obvious from the attacks we keep getting from the other side. We have 7 full-time people, 1 part-time person and 4 contractors along with a host of volunteers across this nation. I would say if you do the math that is not burn rate by any stretch. On the contrary, we are frugal and act in good stewardship with the donor's money. Check out what the other side has in that department.

No Bebes is not counted as one of our paid staff although I am quite familiar with her volunteer efforts to that end...

Greg

[HummBebe]

Originally Posted by Greg Mumm

And we are getting a great deal done as is obvious from the attacks we keep getting from the other side.

"You can measure your level of success by amount of people you've pissed off"

- Bebe

[DennisAJC]

Originally Posted by HummBebe

"You can measure your level of success by amount of people you've pissed off"

- Bebe

Again,

Sierra Club has pissed off millions of people.

BRC has pissed off none. 3 or 4 people were just shaking their heads at how poorly it's being run, asking questions.

By how it reads, It seems you and Greg are slightly, if not pissed off, angry and defensive.

That quote does not apply to BRC.

[HummBebe]

[Greg Mumm]

Originally Posted by DennisAJC

Again,

Sierra Club has pissed off millions of people.

BRC has pissed off none. 3 or 4 people were just shaking their heads at how poorly it's being run, asking questions.

By how it reads, It seems you and Greg are slightly, if not pissed off, angry and defensive.

That quote does not apply to BRC.

You are quite right. I am necessarily in a defensive posture. I and the organization I represent have stood accused unrighteously.

In the face of statements like, "...just shaking their heads at how poorly it's being run..." I thought I was being fairly civil. You surely realize that it is my job to see that it is run efficiently and you have just insulted me unabashedly. Yes, that makes me angry at some level and yes that makes me defensive. More importantly however, I'm still here trying to answer your questions whether they are well founded or not. I really do care about what the grassroots thinks and we really are sincere in trying to make a difference.

Greg