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03-16-2006, 12:06 AM
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03-16-2006, 12:06 AM
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Originally posted by Alec W:
This is a good news story really. Fabtec held up enough to get home and nothing up stream broke.
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very agreed
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03-16-2006, 12:06 AM
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Para,
Exactly what I was talking about...the guy at the four wheel drive shop was concerned with the 7/16" fitting the FabTech tie rod screws into. He thinks this will become a problem after he installs my lift kit. He had 3-4 GMC trucks in replacing this exact item when I was there.
I'm thinking of cutting the 7/16" threaded piece off an manufacture a large piece I can drill & tap 5/8" or better...weld up or better yet sleeve the FabTech tie rod ends or manufacture new ones from B-7 or something with a little more strength. I haven't decided anything final yet. But if KenP finds that this was his problem it will confirm what my shop dude was concerned with. Fabing up a centerlink shouldn't be a problem, it would be cheaper than replacing the whole front end.
I'm just looking for a cure...then something else will become the weak link / problem.
Like I said before, just my POV...and IF KenP finds out that this is the culprit, I'll be modifying to remedy this from occuring to my rig.
LC
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03-16-2006, 12:29 AM
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DOes anyone have a pic of a fabtech tie rod?
Ken, I would straighten it and reinforce it . I'd like to see one , to see where the weakest point is. Thanks , Doug
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03-16-2006, 12:54 AM
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Originally posted by Dug:
DOes anyone have a pic of a fabtech tie rod?
Ken, I would straighten it and reinforce it . I'd like to see one , to see where the weakest point is. Thanks , Doug
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http://www.trailduty.com/products/fabtech/index.html
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03-16-2006, 01:05 AM
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Gawd! It wasn't that bad. I'm a good girl, promise. 
It was totally my fault though. It was on 5 the nightmare day and I was talking to these guys on the side of the trail as we started moving again saying bye- thanks etc.. I did not look for my line going up a ledge with these huge bolders on either side.
Anyway, it was at a turn and I should have straightened out. I couldn't see the clearance for the one on the left and I was right against it.  Kept trying to turn and gassing forward. Then Kenny got in and tried.
If it were a stock one it would have snapped like a twig.
I think we should keep the slightly bent one as a spare and just get a new one.
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03-16-2006, 01:13 AM
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PhilD,
One could manufacture a nut approx. 3-4 inches long, that would function as the original nut. Then at the same time it could be counter bored to fit over the casted part about 2-3 inches. That would strengthen it big time...I'm not sure about the inner one, haven't really looked at it.
Worst part of it is; for everything you strengthen something else is gonna give out...
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03-16-2006, 01:14 AM
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CP, you are a good girl and we all appreciated your showing us we should go wide to the left before coming to the ledge 
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03-16-2006, 01:20 AM
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I guess I'll get my turn when the SUT gets out of the shop next week.
Until then...I can't seem to fit this damn Bridgeport CNC mill in the trunk with the lid shut...  any suggestions. I always like being prepared 
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03-16-2006, 01:37 AM
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Originally posted by PhilD:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by 2-H2's:
One could manufacture a nut approx. 3-4 inches long, that would function as the original nut. Then at the same time it could be counter bored to fit over the casted part about 2-3 inches. That would strengthen it big time...I'm not sure about the inner one, haven't really looked at it.
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Besides, after yours is lifted you'll find plenty of things to reinforce  <span class="ev_code_RED">Like what now?  </span>
Some good underbody protection is a good idea. <span class="ev_code_RED">Hint...Hint...Now what do I need to buy??? Looks like this will be a fab-it-ur-self project? Since even the GREAT TDuty dude is having difficulties hunting this down...Any luck yet?</span>
The Fabtech diff skid plate can be bent easily and as it's attached to the diff, so you don't want to be hitting anything with it anyway. The front lower control arm brackets are prime to get bent up. <span class="ev_code_RED">Can these be beefed up via more fabing, plate & welding?</span> The sway bar could do with being 2" wider. <span class="ev_code_RED">Can do in the sheen shop...</span>
There will be plenty of things that will get broken to spend your time on  <span class="ev_code_RED">Like I need something else to work on now!!!</span> </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Thanks again for all of your help...
"The Shop" is doing all of the work now. They are also affiliated with "Critter Getters". You should see their 130K rig they just built for a dude in Corpus...I'll get photos when I return home. Bad A$$ swap buggy that can draft 6' of water!!!
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03-16-2006, 02:19 AM
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I think it just goes to show that whether your in a rock buggy, M1 Abrams, or Hummer things will break off road. I too like the fact that it could limp home. And keeping the slightly bent one for a spare is probably a good idea. Good info... 
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03-16-2006, 02:25 AM
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Originally posted by KenP:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HummerNewbie:
Damn, the tierod did bend. Didn't look like it was the tierod that was bent. Good thing it was a Fabtech, would have really hated to have a stock one break right there if front of all those guys. Glad everything else was OK.
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You can't tell unless you turn the rod, then the rod moves in an eliptical arc. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Well, I guess we were wrong about the center link! The old saying about finding its the thing you would least expect rigs true again. Is fabtech going to replace it under warranty?
I got an estimate from Dent wizzard on my door only $229.00. I'l be repairing the trail damage as well ken!
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03-16-2006, 02:38 AM
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Ken, yes it would be worth a try by calling them. They may not consider the bent tie rod as normal "wear". Never hurts to call in a case like this.
If I were them and knew the exposure of this on the site, it would be good business to just replace it for ya'.
Good luck and let us know.
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Originally posted by KenP:
Alec, yes.<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Fabtech warranty says I'm screwed:
The Limited Lifetime Warranty excludes the following Fabtech items; bushings, bump stops, ball joints, tie rod ends, limiting straps, cross shafts, heim joints. These parts are subject to wear and are not considered defective when worn. They are warranted for 60 days from the date of purchase for defects in workmanship.
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But I'm still going to call them. The worst that can happen is I get told "No". </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
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