Pissed and Need to Vent

[Hart1]

By way of explanation:

I went to bed last night, very perplexed, on what had happened here. I let the effect of a good nights sleep work a solution to my concerns. Waking up, I realized that it is very easy for some to criticize people and beliefs that they know little or nothing about. So, in the effort to achieve understanding with some here in the H2 community, here is a very condensed background of where I have been:

I was raised a Jehovah’s Witness (yes, I was the person knocking at your door offering magazines, or a free home Bible study). From 10 years of age, to 40 (I am now 45), I was a JW. The JWs are a very controlling religion. Do not celebrate holidays, you cannot vote, higher education is looked down up-on, you must agree with the group or you are disfellowshipped, any non approved teachings were rejected (Tower would fit right in with the Jws) and you were chastised if you did not fall in line.

At any rate, I knew I did not fit in. I could not subscribe to the thinking that everyone but the Jws are saved, nor the controlling of almost every aspect of your life. When I was 18, I bucked the system and went on to college and obtained a degree, I was marked and shunned. I worked my way back in, in fact to the point of becoming and Elder, setting on committee, judging and keeping the sheep in line.

It came to the point were I (and my wife) had a "crisis of conscience," and voluntarily left the Jws. An announcement was read at no less than five congregations in are area, and just like that, all our so called friends refused to talk to us.

The very first act in my freedom was to register to vote, for the very first time in my life (my very first vote was for Bush four years ago, what a thrill).

However, I was lost in life. Tower was correct, two years ago, I was a lot like most or, “the rest of us”; Strained relationships with my wife and kids, worried about employee loyalty, treating people harshly with insults for ego-gratification when provoked, IRS problems, and constant discontent with how life was treating me.

Can anyone here relate? Most can, if even on one situation.

Like James, my first reaction to situations like his was being “pissed” and the like. After Tower & Paragon’s “observations” concerning me as a person, two years ago, I would have responded in like manner, anger, red typing, insults, and could have got just as “in your face” as anyone here. Two years ago, I would have fit right in.

Two years ago I became a seeker. I had to, I felt my only next option was the final exit. That’s right, taking my life. I began a diligent search for the truth. To make a very long story short, I was pointed to the Works of true “esoteric” teachers that have changed my thinking, which has changed my life.

To understand what transformed my way of thinking, I point to the works of Kant, Dr. Scott Peck, Vernon Howard, and the Honorable Master Kit Kwon, just to name a few. What Tower mistakenly labels as Narcissism , these profound esoteric Teachers call Self-Trust. What Tower credits as group approval, the Higher Truth shows that you are on the right “esoteric” path when you can stand alone.

By reflecting and applying the “wisdom of the ages” in my life, I have corrected all the situations to a very large degree. I love life now. The funny thing is, none of the above had to change, I had to. I know, some will shake their head in disbelief, I sure did, but little by little, This power has proved itself in my life. I found that It is entirely possible for one to live unburdened by one crisis after another. I have found that outside forces or what happens in life changes for the better as I change. Friends, money, kids, all react with this new effort for a new life.

Remember, I am making along story short here. There is much more, but the limitations here prevent it.

At any rate, what do you do with good news? You share it! With confidence and self-trust. I have found this out in my life, Yes, there is a way out of the human jungle, yes, there is another way!

I hope this clears any misconception about my intent.

I believe if one examines my post history here, I am a productive poster (I am a newbie H2 owner).

I hope I am welcome here.

Hart

[DennisAJC]

W T F is this topic aboot again?

Tower,

You're wrong! "An apple" they on the Westcoast. "A apple" they say in the deep south. Both are correct.

I can see us all on our next Moab trip. In chairs in front of a blackboard with you as our english teacher.

My employees are "YES" people.
To my friends(Some are employees) I try hard to be a "YES" man.
I am a "YES" man to my clients.
I am a "YES" man to my wifey's advances.


...Nothing wrong with being a "YES" man.....Sometimes.

[h2co-pilot]

What's a matter, afraid you might get in trouble...Do it. Doo it....

[Hart1]

Sfox: you KNOW

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">God this is some funny **** </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Great God, someone is finally "getting it"

[ROX]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DennisAJC:
W T F is this topic aboot again?

Tower,

You're wrong! "An apple" they on the Westcoast. "A apple" they say in the deep south. Both are correct.

I can see us all on our next Moab trip. In chairs in front of a blackboard with you as our english teacher.

My employees are "YES" people.
To my friends(Some are employees) I try hard to be a "YES" man.
I am a "YES" man to my clients.
I am a "YES" man to my wifey's advances.


...Nothing wrong with being a "YES" man.....Sometimes. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Okay. so. Yes in French Canadian is "Oui".(sp)
So there's nothing wrong with being a "Wee" man? er.. I mean "Oui"man?
That's what ya git fer hittin the horn on Lions Back!

[Andy C]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Andy C H2 hasbeen:
Ah you see thats where my leadership style may differ from yours - My world is simple - if you work for me you have to be able to drink heavily - you have to be able to swear proficiently and if you have a reasonable dispute you have to be able to beat me in a fight in the parking lot behind the bar before I listen to what you have to say.

Simple but effective - my guys would kick my arse if I even used the word esoteric - they would automaticaly think I had turned into some raving tree hugging soap dodger and beat me to death. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Hey, I need a job. Can I take the one of the guy you just fired. Is this in the lingerie shop or the security business? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The Security business - the lingerie employee relations are handled a little differently - and trust me you do not qualify.

[Andy C]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Hart1:
In fact, the way is there for all, if you would take the time to find it, IMHO.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Unfortunately I barely have the time to read this - I have sent out one of my assistants to see if he can find "The Way" - he should be getting back to me later on that one.

Just out of interest - is there a web site or anything that we can look at to find "The Way" - it will probably save us a bit of time.

[tower]

Hart1, perhaps my assessment of you as arrogant was in error. I probably should have said delusional, self-aggrandizing.

You would do much better with a bigger compass and a smaller ego, "grasshopper."

[KenP]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
Only here at the H2 forum can you get your Count Chocula and Froot Loops all together. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

[JamesT]

**** Hart1. Your taking a beating on the thread I started. I almost feel bad.

[JamesT]

In 6 years of owning my own business I have NEVER lost a claim. Dont plan a starting now either. My employee manual was written very well. As far as this case, Insobordination covers my butt.

[Harley]

god damn, hart, shut up for a few, will you?!!

[Andy C]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Hart1:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Awwh **** - I just fired one of my assistants - I overheard him saying to one of my guys outside that "The boss has lost his f@#$%#g mind - muttering on about finding the way and sending me out to look for it"

Did I do the right thing, esotericaly speaking of course. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

In order to obtain harmony, you and your staff must act like a wolf pack, not like a six pack. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ah you see thats where my leadership style may differ from yours - My world is simple - if you work for me you have to be able to drink heavily - you have to be able to swear proficiently and if you have a reasonable dispute you have to be able to beat me in a fight in the parking lot behind the bar before I listen to what you have to say.

Simple but effective - my guys would kick my arse if I even used the word esoteric - they would automaticaly think I had turned into some raving tree hugging soap dodger and beat me to death.

[DennisAJC]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Klaus:
Hart,

My comment was not aimed at you. Dennis throws a bomb at the South every once in a while just to stir the pot. No real harm done.

I'd like Dennis to visit the South and see the sights. Maybe drop him off in North Georgia for a canoe trip! You know - Where they filmed Deliverance!

Dennis could help them with their grammar, and they could well... Show him how the movie was made!

</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

LMAO!!!! That movie still creeps me out!

[tower]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Hart1:

No, no! Please don't' feel bad. I only wish that we had this discussion in person, instead of this forum. I am confident it would have gone on very differently.
<span class="ev_code_RED">AGAIN YOU DELUDE YOURSELF.</span>

This interaction with people like Paragon has taught me how to stay on the esoteric path:
<span class="ev_code_RED">MORE ARROGANCE. YOU ARE NOWHERE NEAR AS ADVANCED A BEING AS PARAGON.</span>

2. I must work on my anxious craving for approval from others.
<span class="ev_code_RED">THUS FAR, THIS IS THE ONLY POINT UPON WHICH WE AGREE.</span>

3. I need to be aware of involvement with interesting but immature people. "Do not trade your gold for their gravel."
<span class="ev_code_RED">YOUR EGOTISM IS DEAFENING, EVEN TO YOU! WHY DO YOU CALL THEM IMMATURE AND IMPLY THAT YOU ARE MATURE? WHY IS THEIRS GRAVEL BUT YOURS GOLD?</span>

4. Be aware of hostile attitudes in others, then realize they need not influence you any more than "a slashing storm can affect a beam of light!"

5. Inward right action relieves us completely of concern over results in our outward actions.
<span class="ev_code_RED">DON'T YOU SEE THE OBVIOUS PITFALL HERE? THIS IS PERFECT JUSTIFICATION FOR A NARROW MINDED ARROGANT JERK TO DO WHATEVER HE OR SHE WANTS, REGARDLESS OF CONSEQUENCES. WHO MADE YOU THE ARBITER OF WHAT IS RIGHT? WHAT IF WHAT YOU SEE AS INWARD RIGHT IS ALL WRONG?</span>

Thanks James and all here, you are great teachers!
<span class="ev_code_RED">I HOPE SO!</span> </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

[tower]

[PARAGON]

I hope today is your day off. I would hate to know that the "affluent" tax payers of your "respected" city that you "interact" with so often would approve of you spending your time on the internet posting in a Hummer forum when you should be conducting city business. You think your boss would be understanding?

[Hart1]

(Holding finger to mouth) "This Organization will not tolerate insolence"

Everyone here is dead on right. It is your business, etc., etc.,.

Now, lets look at it esoterically, for your benefit.

Is the statement true about putting the Hummer first over your business and employees? If you are honestly not doing this, then why the perception that you are?

Rember to most, perception is the reality.

Just reflect on these thoughts, that's all I ask. There is no right or wrong conclusion to this request.

[Marcmedic]

I guarantee the guy knows exactly why he got fired and in the future will probably not talk **** about the boss when he's within earshot. This has nothing to do with "ego" and everything to do with insubordination and a total lack of respect. The fact that some of you would actually condone this type of behavior in a business that you own, is amazing in itself. It's his company, he can fire whoever he wants. In the state of Kansas, you are at "at will employee", which means you can get fired for any or no reason whatsoever. Kind of makes you double check your surroundings before talking about the man.

[Andy C]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Hart1
"as a way of defeating this type of hypnotic sleep." </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I sure hope you come up with something soon - that is exactly the state of mind that I am in after reading this ****e.

As I said before WTF are you on about.

And I would still have fired the prick.