2004 Nav System Challenge

[Klaus]

There is a new version of the adapter due out around Nov 15. See #8 below.

http://www.elcova.com/groupee/forums?a=tpc&s=2826088551&f=6706011751&m=117600117 4&r=8236087774#8236087774

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r_putman@soundgate.com

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 5:26 pm Post subject: PIOGM1 thank you

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Just a quick note to all XM fans to say "Thanks" for the overwhelming support of our new PIOGM1, GM to Pioneer/XM interface. We shipped our first pieces to a retail outlet in Arizona on October 15, and the response has been incredible.

I'd like to clear up a few issues...
1. OnStar continues to work just fine with the installation of the PIOGM1.
2. PIOGM1 can operate Pioneer changer only, XM receiver only, or can do both at once.
3. PIOGM1 can be used as a simple AUX input device.
4. PIOGM1 works in virtually all 2004 GM vehicles with the "Band" button (excluding Cadillac sedans).
5. PIOGM1 works in most 2003 GM's, even though they may not be 'XM ready'.
6. On factory systems where the radio includes a "Band" button, and the vehicle is equipped with a factory CD Changer, the CD Changer will continue to work.
7. Factory radios that do NOT have a "Band" button and do have a factory changer will have to have the factory changer disconnected (this is just a few car models).

IMPORTANT...
8. There is a text issue with the Pioneer 910 receiver. We know about this problem, and are taking the steps necessary to correct the manner in which the text displays. This interface will be called "PIOGM1V2", and will be available in about three weeks (app. Nov. 15).

This isn't a sales pitch, I just wanted to clear up some issues that I've read about in the posts.

Thanks again,
Rob Putman
SoundGate
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[Klaus]

Hey Mike - Is that a black helicopter circling overhead?

Seriously, think about your OnStar. It is GPS, and reports back to home where you are. Some people actually disable Onstar on their vehicles because of this.

Of course, the new cell phones are required to have location reporting as well.

Klaus

"God made some men big and some men small, but Sam Colt made them all equal."

[Dedo-man]

Excellent! Thanks for the feedback....
So far, im pretty impressed with the radio/Nav system in the 04'.

[hummer17]

LAPD,

Thanks for the response.

I guess with the new controller I would get what I was looking for, just not in the dash which would have been nice.

I suppose we can hide the CD-changer under the seats.

NOW - for the big question - if you are using the Nav with the new controller mentioned here, can you listen to the CD-Changer while the Nav is operating??

Also - any way found yet to enable the Nav when travelling over 8MPH??

THANKS!

[hummer17]

cmb,

You win the Challenge.

Nice work - thanks for all of the information.

[Klaus]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Centerfire:
Just can be a bit bothersome to know that Helga and Gretchen and listen on a private conversation if they get bored at work.
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Again, don't forget that the Onstar system is ANALOG. There are a bunch of older scanners out there that can tune in to analog cell phones.

Klaus

"God made some men big and some men small, but Sam Colt made them all equal."

[Navigator]

Thanks for all the info Klaus,

I have a 2 wire I can use if I have to till they come out with an adapter.

Rich

2004 H2 Adventure w/Corsa cat back.
2003 Nisan Murano
2003 Lincoln Navigator (for Sale)
2001 Ford Lightning W/mods
1999 F-350 W/mods
1999 Yukon Denali (for sale)

[cmb31078]

Hummer17,
Are you able to set destination and use other nav funcions while travelling above 8mph in the escalade? I was wondering because you cannot in the H2. I was seeing if there are any differences that might suggest a slightly different unit. Thanks.

Craig

[cmb31078]

Shawn thanks for doing the research as I do not know where to start but I am very interested also. I am going to buy the adapter as well and try this but interested in making the nav work at higher speeds since I am always having passengers in my car.

Craig

04 H2- Lux,nav, air suspension

[hummer17]

Ok, here is a challenge:

Since GM couldn't get it right, for those with the 2004 H2 with the Nav system...

Try getting the CD changer unit from a Caddy Escalade (03 should work), it should fit exactly where the OnStar system is currently located.

Then, see if there is any way to interface it with the Nav system. There should be as this is EXACTLY the same Nav system as is found in the '03 Caddy Escalade which has a 6 CD changer.

If you really want to be enterprising, see if you can get your hands on the rear-view mirror with the On-Star buttons from a Caddy or any other GM for that matter. This way when you remove the H2 OnStar to put the CD-Changer in its place you'll still have the buttons (I believe there should be a way to interface this as well).

With all the brain and tinkering power on this board it seems that this should be easily done and prove to be a huge upgrade. Heck, if you can figure it out, you could probably make a kit out of it and sell it to other 2004 H2 owners.

Be brave and post your results here.

Please no comments on using aftermarket Navs on this thread - not the point - trying to go OEM and improve upon GM's slip-up...

[Centerfire]

I have a question regarding Factory Nav. systems.

Just had a conversation with a friend regarding H2 Night vision, said If I didn't get it then I didn't have a hair on my ( oh well that was off the subject).. ANyway. We discussed factory NAv. systems. He stated that the system in his new Mercedes will redo the route if you take a wrong turn. ONe day just to check it he took 8 wrong turns. All of a sudden a voice came over his stero " Judge K. are you alright". Oh course this shocked JOhn to say the least, he asked who is this? She says" This is Helga in Stuttgart Germany, we noticed that you have taken 8 wrong turns, are you all right". John told her what he was doing and asked cqan you hear what is going on in my car. She said yes anytime we wished and if you every decided to cheat on your wife or your wife on you, we can tell you everyplace the vec has been and for how long. further they can technically listen in on any vec.> Needless to say Judge K. wasn't happy about this..

I believe and trust this guy 110%, so it gots to be true!

NOW THIS IS SCAREY! I know I do not like the idea that a 3rd party has access to my personal life thru my car..

Any opinions?

Mike

[Drag]

From what I understand, the CD changer from an Escalade is compatable, since it has a class two bus system. Anything else, and you would have to mount additional controls for the CD changer. This way, your CD changer will play based on using the controls that are in the nav system already.

My question is, we already have clarification that the nav won't work at the same time as the CD player as stock. I wonder if this modification will allow playing a CD and the nav DVD at the same time, or is one system dominant over the other. Maybe someone with an Escalade or GMC Yukon Denali can answer if they can play a CD and use their nav at the same time.

Personally, I'd think more about aftermarket CD changer and instead of having it in dash, just mount it elsewhere in your rig, but you said that you want to go OEM, so I won't go any further than that.

Corvette= "The ability to pass with class"

[cmb31078]

Navigator that is correct. Make sure you get the V2 of the soundgate. This is the one that will work with the 910Xm. All you need is those three things. Let me know if I can be of more assistance.

Craig

04 Pewter H2- Lux,nav, air suspension

[Dedo-man]

Hello.

Im pretty new to the forum, just picked up my 04' H2 yesterday and cant stop smiling. I have the Nav upgrade and want to install the sat. radio. Am I understanding you correctly? you can install this pioneer with the Nav/radio head unit and still use the steerwheel controls as well as the factory stereo?

Thanks

[Klaus]

You should be able to add 2 devices to your stock setup using the Soundgate adapter.

Basically, what the Soundgate adapter does is give you an input connection to your GM radio that accepts Pioneer accessories meant to be connected to a Pioneer head unit. In effect, your GM radio is now a Pioneer head unit. That means you could connect a Pioneer XM module AND a Pioneer CD changer. However, say you didn't want the changer. Pioneer also makes an adapter to connect to their head units that terminates into a pair of RCA jacks. This could be used for a digital music player. You could have XM and something connected to the RCA jacks. Or, you could have the CD changer and the RCA jacks.

I suspect Soundgate is no longer shipping the adapter that was having the problem with the Pioneer XM 910 module. Hopefully, the V2 unit will be on time. I suspect that's why you got a message from them telling you it would be another week. I'm betting they are referring to the new V2 version.

Klaus

"God made some men big and some men small, but Sam Colt made them all equal."

[Klaus]

Navigator,

Please see my post about the antenna:

http://www.elcova.com/groupee/forums?a=tpc&s=2826088551&f=6706011751&m=117600117 4&r=4806077694#4806077694

Klaus

"God made some men big and some men small, but Sam Colt made them all equal."

[Klaus]

Post correction!

In my post above, the manufacturer's name of the adapter should be SOUNDGATE, not Soundscape.


Sorry for the confusion.

Klaus

"God made some men big and some men small, but Sam Colt made them all equal."

[Centerfire]

Just wondered.. I do not travel very far by car/H2 if over 200 miles from home I fly.. I usually know where I need to go before living home.. IN home town I have alternative methods. LIke I said ,, I love gadgets. My 19 Suburban is lifted . roof rack, way too many off road lights, supercharger and more gadgets... including custom console with GPS. which I don't use.. it is just a cool gadget.. Boys and toys.. Mike

[Hummertime]

wait a minute...i just got an email 11/5/2003 from soundgate saying that this adapter would not be available for another week! is it or not? does aces full know something i dont? i mean...i see the pics but...

Bone stock but dreamin!