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Originally posted by Grandman:
I own both . The H 3 will not follow my Grand , but my Grand is a long way from stock . 2 Det lockers . Multi port V 8 . 7 " lift and 6 point cage .
Iv ran a new Jeep commander , off road they have nothing coming . The H 3 in stock form can not keep up with a Rubicon due to it having 2 lockers but other then that model the H 3 can out off road any other stock jeep .
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There were only three choices, the new Powerwagon, the H3, or the Unlimited Rubicon. I test drove all three. I needed a third vehicle, especially suited for driving to work 45 miles through the mountains every day. The Dodge, awesome. Eats gasoline like an F-15 on afterburner though, a guy in town told me that first hand. The Rubicon, I could get everything I wanted for the trails. I love the concept. One trip back to back with the H3 though and as much as I wanted the Rubicon, there's no freakin' way I was going to drive that sucker 90 miles in the twisties everyday, especially after I put 33" tires on it like I wanted. Yeah, the Rubicon very well might have a slight edge offroad, but not off the showroom, neither's a Grand. I do a good bit of offroading but I do even more driving. To me, especially for the insurance, initial outlay and all other things considered, the H3 is particulary suited to my needs. The H3's wide, low stance, even considering that it has ancient old leaf springs out back does quite nicely in the twisties. If I drove a Rubicon or Grand (can you put 33-35" tires on one?) up and down the mountain the way I drive the H3, I'd roll it or punch out a corner into the woods. As I've said before, handling is paramount, in addition to going offroad well.
If I want to anything more serious than the H3 offroad, I'll build a rock rig, using anything else is just going to cost cubic dollars or have me riding around in a hammered jacked up rig that's not very much fun to drive to work. Tall sucks, and sucks BAD.
I've wheeled a long time and nuthin' but nuthin' sucks worse than side hilling when all's at risk. I can winch/drag over an object but sidehilling is the not something that I like doing in any lifted vehicle at all. I COMPLETELY understand the need for roll cages and have built a few full cages myself. I'd rather not need them. I've seen lots and lots of rolled Jeeps, and most of them were lifted.
Here's a question for people here:
Will you be able to put a limited slip or locker in the front end of an H3? With that, a stronger tie rod, and upgraded axle shafts, what then?