Kerry insults every man and woman in uniform

[GeorgeSSSS]

John Kerry's exact words to a group of students during a campaign stop at Pasadena City College for California Democratic gubernatorial candidate Phil Angelides (another jerk):

"You know, education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. And if you don't, you get stuck in Iraq."

This insult to every man and woman in military uniform slipped out because that is how he really feels.

This SOB was born into a rich family with a silver spoon up his a$$ and has made a profession of marrying women who outlived their wealthy husbands. He is an elitest and a gigolo and the epitome of everything I don't want my sons to be.

George SSSS

[DennisAJC]

Kerry is just telling the truth.

[GeorgeSSSS]

Originally Posted by DennisAJC

Kerry is just telling the truth.

Dennis:

My son's friend graduated from high school with honors, went to the Naval Academy, and is a SEAL officer in Iraq. Did Kerry tell the truth about him?

[DennisAJC]

Originally Posted by GeorgeSSSS

Dennis:

My son's friend graduated from high school with honors, went to the Naval Academy, and is a seal in Iraq. Did Kerry tell the truth about him?

Of course there is a percentage of highly educated. Small percentage.


Like the general public thinking that all Hummer owners never off road their rigs. But we all know that's not entirely true. But close enough.

[GeorgeSSSS]

Originally Posted by DennisAJC

Of course there is a percentage of highly educated. Small percentage.


Like the general public thinking that all Hummer owners never off road their rigs. But we all know that's not entirely true. But close enough.

Dennis: Have you ever been on active duty?

[PARAGON]

Originally Posted by DennisAJC

Kerry is just telling the truth.

No, he's not.

You get stuck in "Ding, fries are done"

Some people feel it's an honor and their duty to go serve their country. Obviously, others like Kerry, feel it's an insult.

[BlueHUMMERH2]

I think I was the only person at our campus to approach the Marine recruiters and tell them, "Thank You." I support the troops, but I don't support the leadership they follow. I'm surprised people my age would actually enter the armed forces, because most I talk to (in the service or not) don't like the commander in chief and his policies. But I don't think it's fair to insult the troops. Insult the people who make their decisions for them.

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But he has a top secret plan!

[BlueHUMMERH2]

Who? Kerry? Bush?

Most of the liberal extremists I've met think Bush's secret plan is that he'll somehow serve a 3rd term...

The conservative extremists think an atheist, gay, married couple will move in next door, some illegal immigrants will form a community crime watch group, and we'll all have to subside on organic vegetables and drive electric cars.

[MarineHawk]

Originally Posted by BlueHUMMERH2

I'm surprised people my age would actually enter the armed forces, because most I talk to (in the service or not) don't like the commander in chief and his policies. But I don't think it's fair to insult the troops. Insult the people who make their decisions for them.

Maybe you are talking to French and/or gay troops. Wrong.

Yeah, insulting the Commander in Chief is cool. It doesn't damage troop morale in wartime or anything like that. And morale of the troops barely factors in to combat effectiveness. Great idea.

[MarineHawk]

Byron York: "And now, of course, Democrats, who might have to defend Kerry in public, are appalled at the way he has injected himself into the campaign. From their point of view, is there any doubt that his political instincts are always wrong? He made a mistake in 2004 by not responding earlier to the Swift Boat Veterans. And now, he has misapplied the lesson of '04 by over-responding to the controversy caused by his "you get stuck in Iraq" statement. The incident will follow him on the campaign trail for at least another day, and, at least once, Democratic candidates everywhere will have to address the Kerry Question. If you were looking for a Democratic candidate to support in 2008, would there be any doubt about who you would not choose?"

"DES MOINES, Iowa A Democratic Congressional candidate from Iowa is canceling a campaign event later this week with Senator John Kerry.
Brucy Braley says Kerry's recent comments about the Iraq war were inappropriate." http://www.eyewitnessnewstv.com/Glob...16595&nav=F2DO

John McCain: "You can't make this up. His statement, basically, was so demeaning to the men and women who are serving in the military that you will be even more grateful than you are at this moment that George Bush is president of the United States?
You can't make this up. His statement was that if you get an education and you do well, then you don't have to go to Iraq, and if you don't have an education, then you have to go to Iraq. Do you know how demeaning that is to the men and women who are serving so magnificently in the cause of freedom and are fighting and dying in Iraq today? As I said, you can't make it up."

Jonah Goldberg: "That's just great stuff for the GOP. If he goes to PA, Santorum can cut an ad of Casey and Kerry together with Kerry's comments bookending the video. If Casey distances himself, the Kerry story has new oxygen. If Casey disinvites Kerry, more oxygen. If Kerry stays away, even more oxygen." http://corner.nationalreview.com/

[Mrs.ssippi]

Originally Posted by BlueHUMMERH2

I think I was the only person at our campus to approach the Marine recruiters and tell them, "Thank You." I support the troops, but I don't support the leadership they follow. I'm surprised people my age would actually enter the armed forces, because most I talk to (in the service or not) don't like the commander in chief and his policies. But I don't think it's fair to insult the troops. Insult the people who make their decisions for them.

You are able to say those things about our Commander in Chief and his policies because of our troops. I think most of the troops believe in our Commander in Chief, with the liberal press we only hear about the ones that don't believe in him and what we are doing over there. During a time of war I don't think our troops should hear anything negative while they are fighting over there. I know alot of you are young, but so am I. I know most of you "youngins" have at least read about Vietnam and how our troops were treated when they came home. I personally think that even if you don't believe 100% in what we are doing over there, you damn well better pretend that you do. Change things when you go in and vote. But other than that shut up and support our troops with everything you have. People "your age" are very proud to live in the USA, that is why they join the service. HOME OF THE FREE, BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE !!!!!!!!!!

[BlueHUMMERH2]

Originally Posted by Mrs.ssippi

You are able to say those things about our Commander in Chief and his policies because of our troops. I think most of the troops believe in our Commander in Chief, with the liberal press we only hear about the ones that don't believe in him and what we are doing over there. During a time of war I don't think our troops should hear anything negative while they are fighting over there. I know alot of you are young, but so am I. I know most of you "youngins" have at least read about Vietnam and how our troops were treated when they came home. I personally think that even if you don't believe 100% in what we are doing over there, you damn well better pretend that you do. Change things when you go in and vote. But other than that shut up and support our troops with everything you have. People "your age" are very proud to live in the USA, that is why they join the service. HOME OF THE FREE, BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE !!!!!!!!!!

I'm sorry, but that's a highly ignorant viewpoint. Blindly supporting a leader because you're trying to be "patriotic" and "an American". You know what happens when a nation does that, when they're fueled by the idea of a nationalism, blind to whatever injustices might occur along the way? You end up with a situation that none of us want to be in, fascism.

You're telling me if I enjoy my freedoms I need to just support the Comander in Chief (CIC) and go along with things? That's BS. If I wanted to praise the CIC, act like he was the greatest, and stand behind him 100%, I'd move to North Korea or Iran. I don't agree with what's been done, and I am not a bible-thumper, and I am certainly not a conservative. I am also not an extreme liberal. And I see no reason why I should be 100% supportive. Is your SS going to come after me, and silence me because I don't agree? Are they going to try to make me fit? I have the right to speak, as do you, but this is true in MANY countries, so don't act like it's just the US. And I'd give more credit to the leaders of the past for those rights, not the leaders of today.

And you're saying I need to silence what I feel for the national good. Go spend some time reading about history. The US is not immune from the damage that nationalism plays on any civilization. We can just as easily end up in the pitfalls of history. We have to remember what's happened in the past, and what goes arwy when a leader is not questioned. This country was built by those who were not happy with their government, who wanted new freedoms, and who were willing to stand up and say their mind. What's happened? Obviously, you've become a mindless drone. And mindless drone=/=American.

And the liberal press idea? Give me a break. Travel somewhere else in the country, and the "liberal press" sounds more moderate than you'd like to believe. I think the troops should know the truth, even if it is negative. Why should they be prevented from knowing? Don't you think they have a strong enough conviction to handle the truth? You think they might flee if they do?

And as for voting, I hope Democrats win the majority. I don't like either party really, but I certainly don't like what's been going on in there lately. So I think the Democrats deserve a shot. But I think the reason the Republicans hold such a strong voter turn out: religion. I don't even want to talk about that though, because I have a feeling some people here wouldn't understand the anthropological underpinnings of why it exists, and how it influences the control of a leader over a complex society. Why do you think all political parties try to so hard to win over the religious vote?

But should you support the military? Absolutely! These are guys that are actually standing up, and fighting for something. I think some of them are happy to fight for the current CIC. Others are probably not. But I think they believe that they are protecting "their" America, meaning what they value about home, their views. And I think that makes them more American than most "Americans" here at home.

But you have some dangerous ideals that would silence dissenters and keep the military cut off from the truth of real events. You think those are good ideas???

[William Howard Taft]

Originally Posted by BlueHUMMERH2

I think I was the only person at our campus to approach the Marine recruiters and tell them, "Thank You." I support the troops, but I don't support the leadership they follow. I'm surprised people my age would actually enter the armed forces, because most I talk to (in the service or not) don't like the commander in chief and his policies. But I don't think it's fair to insult the troops. Insult the people who make their decisions for them.

Sir, just because you want to float your sausage in a gumbo of real men, don't insult the Presidency over your sexual preferences.

[MarineHawk]

Originally Posted by DennisAJC

Kerry is just telling the truth.

Fcuk you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!

You worthless fcuk!! You have no idea. How many U.S. Marine officers or enlisted have you been around? I went to the Gulf War with a regiment of Marines that blew me away with their level of competence, integrity, intelligence, and diligence. Far, far in excess of any other professional group I have ever encountered before or since. In 1991, when my reserve regiment (the 24th) left, more than 50% of the regiment's enlisted had more than two years of college experience. The vast majority of those were were progressing to degrees. Yet they decided to enlist nonetheless, in the Marines, who offered the least college benefits of any service. Why? Because, although most were intelligent and competent, they wanted, for at least a brief period, to do something more meaningful and important to history than just taking the easiest path to the most money. What have you done for the world Dennis that was not in your own self interest?

Even by your own shallow standards, the Marines have done pretty well. I don't know what the percentages are today, but, in 1990, more than 20% of the U.S. Congressmen and Senators and C.E.O.s of the Fortune 500 companies were former Marines. Granted these people might not be up to your lofty caliber, but they did okay. I can only assume that the other U.S. Services are similarly filled with exceptionalism. And I assume it's even better today than in 1990. You simply don't know what you are talking about. These guys are smart, hard-working, dedicated, brave, and they are doing something more valuable than almost anyone else I am aware of is doing. They are heros. They really are.

[DennisAJC]

Originally Posted by MarineHawk

I went to the Gulf War with a regiment of Marines that blew me away with their level of competence, integrity, intelligence, and diligence.

So....... You must be one of the stupid ones Kerry was referring to.

[DRTYFN]

Originally Posted by DennisAJC

So....... You must be one of the stupid ones Kerry was referring to.

I think Ken or CO should give you a 1 week vacation.

[Mrs.ssippi]

Originally Posted by DennisAJC

So....... You must be one of the stupid ones Kerry was referring to.

Your in time out go sit in the corner!!!!!!!!!!!

[GeorgeSSSS]

Originally Posted by DennisAJC

So....... You must be one of the stupid ones Kerry was referring to.

Dennis:

Look at the facts (hard for you). Any large corporation or organization has a broad distribution of highly educated and not so highly educated. The truth is that the officers and NCOs in the military are more highly educated than the general workforce of NBC, GM, FEDEX -- -- you name it. But no one ever questions the educational credentials of those organizations' employees.

The fact is, Kerry and you don't know what you're talking about.

George SSSS
BA Economics, magna cum laude
Former Lieutenant, US Navy

[Hmmm2]

Originally Posted by MarineHawk

Fcuk you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!

You worthless fcuk!! You have no idea. How many U.S. Marine officers or enlisted have you been around? I went to the Gulf War with a regiment of Marines that blew me away with their level of competence, integrity, intelligence, and diligence. Far, far in excess of any other professional group I have ever encountered before or since. In 1991, when my reserve regiment (the 24th) left, more than 50% of the regiment's enlisted had more than two years of college experience. The vast majority of those were were progressing to degrees. Yet they decided to enlist nonetheless, in the Marines, who offered the least college benefits of any service. Why? Because, although most were intelligent and competent, they wanted, for at least a brief period, to do something more meaningful and important to history than just taking the easiest path to the most money. What have you done for the world Dennis that was not in your own self interest?

Even by your own shallow standards, the Marines have done pretty well. I don't know what the percentages are today, but, in 1990, more than 20% of the U.S. Congressmen and Senators and C.E.O.s of the Fortune 500 companies were former Marines. Granted these people might not be up to your lofty caliber, but they did okay. I can only assume that the other U.S. Services are similarly filled with exceptionalism. And I assume it's even better today than in 1990. You simply don't know what you are talking about. These guys are smart, hard-working, dedicated, brave, and they are doing something more valuable than almost anyone else I am aware of is doing. They are heros. They really are.

I lost my brother who was in the Marines during the Vietnam era. He never made it home. He was in college .. soon to graduate .. then chose to ENLIST (no, he wasn't drafted)...and decided to finish up the few credits to get his degree after he completed his enlistment period. My dad is a West Point graduate who served with the U.S. Army in Army Intelligence during WWII. I agree with MarineHawk.Those who have served are more than sensitive when it comes to statements as made by people like Kerry. I think it's fair to comment on Kerry's statement, but, everything else is like treading on thin ice. Especially when it comes to bashing the U.S. military when some of the members here commenting aren't even U.S. citizens. That's an insult.