Traction control switch not working?

[NEOCON1]

f5 we need you

[JKS-H3]

Lets clear some things up, first off the traction control system can be turned off when you are locked or unlocked in 4hi or 4lo.All you do is hit the button with the vehicle and the squiggly lines and the message center will show trac off. If this doesn't happen and it shows service 4wd system you then need to take it in. The beauty thing about the system is that when you are in sand or mud it can be switched off so the computer doesn't bring you to a hault and kill the forward momentum. While in 4hi-lock or 4lo the system automatically shuts off and only activates to enhance traction in a situation when one wheel is spinning and the other is not, basically an electronic locker. Hopefully this a little clearer,now go out there and find out the beauty of 4lo and a 5-speed!!!

[NEOCON1]

thats the stabilitrac symbol , we cant turn off the traction with an automatic just BTM to overide system , or we havent figured it out yet

[Desert Dan]

Thanks JKS H3



I am glad I have the 5-speed.

[NEOCON1]

i dont mind a little BTMing , its better than having to use a clutch all the time

[JKS-H3]

Real men don't worry about the clutch!

[CrisB]

Originally Posted by HummBebe

You can turn off Stabilitrac.

You cannot turn off the ETC...Electronic Traction Control.

Bebe's got it right, you cannot turn off ETC with an auto trans.

Carved out a good mudpit on my property too see how deep she'd go...when I finally got her stuck on the frame, 4lo locked rear diff, Stab control off, those brakes were working really hard to stop my spinning tires...or I might have got out of it!

A little dissapointed in that feature.

[HummBebe]

What's with the FJ in the background????

[fourfourto]

Originally Posted by HummBebe

You can turn off Stabilitrac.

You cannot turn off the ETC...Electronic Traction Control.

I dont get it

The manual says (page 4-9) you can turn traction control off by hitting button once(It doest work and they dont say with 5 speed only?)


Under stability control it says hold button for 5 seconds (that works)


Im confused Dont you want to disable traction if stuck so you could rock it?

[NEOCON1]

Originally Posted by fourfourto

I dont get it

The manual says (page 4-9) you can turn traction control off by hitting button once(It doest work and they dont say with 5 speed only?)


Under stability control it says hold button for 5 seconds (that works)


Im confused Dont you want to disable traction if stuck so you could rock it?

guess we just have to BTM with the autos

[NEOCON1]

Originally Posted by JKS-H3

Real men don't worry about the clutch!

X2

LMAO

[HummBebe]

You guys are killin'me....

Stabilitrac:
A system which stabilizes the traction of the vehicle. It was designed to help prevent rollovers and driver error in emergency manuvers.

ABS:
Automatic Braking System...self explanatory

ETC or Electronic Traction Control:
A system which recognizes a wheel with out traction thereby transferring the power to the wheel that is not spinning allowing the new "powered" wheel to move.

In deep sand if you spin the tires the only direction you will go is down. If you can back up/out then do so. Same approach applies to deep mud, the only direction you will be going in deeper in the mud. Only momentum is your friend.

However, in soil, (dirt without rocks) as long as you allow the free wheel or wheels to spin the ETC will transfer power to those wheels the are not spinning.

In cases where the sudden traction or contact of a spinning wheel would cause damage, BTM prevents the spinning wheel from freely spinning. This way when it does finally make contact, you won't explode something in your driveline.

So to Recap:

Rock Crawling, Slickrock or other such hard surfaces = BTM (Brake Throttle Modulation)

Loose soil, Dirt, Shallow Sand = Electronic Traction Control

Deep Sand, Deep Mud = Momentum

Snow, Ice, Rain soaked Streets = Stabilitrac

You cannot turn off the ETC, or ABS. You can turn off Stabilitrac.

If you have a Manual transmission, you do NOT have Stabilitrac.If you have the button, the car with squiggly lines underneath it, most likely, it is non operational. Only the Automatic Transmissions come with Stabilitrac.

Like that

[NEOCON1]

the Queen has spoken , All is well in the kingdom tonight

[bjc]

Originally Posted by HummBebe

If you have a Manual transmission, you do NOT have Stabilitrac.If you have the button, the car with squiggly lines underneath it, most likely, it is non operational. Only the Automatic Transmissions come with Stabilitrac.

I agree that only the auto's have Stabilitrac. However, I think those of us with manual's can confirm that the "car button with squiggly lines underneath it" is indeed operational. When pressed and held it turns off traction control (confirmed by a DIC message).

[Desert Dan]

I have a 5 speed and when I push the button a red light comes on and also it says trac control disabled.

When the system is working off road the goes on and off and you can here some buzzing.

The traction control works by using the brakes to slow the spinning wheel acting similar to a limited slip.

The big question is should I have traction control on or off when rock crawling? What would be better to avoid diff breakage

I wish the front end had a real locker that I could control!!

[HummBebe]

Originally Posted by bjc

I agree that only the auto's have Stabilitrac. However, I think those of us with manual's can confirm that the "car button with squiggly lines underneath it" is indeed operational. When pressed and held it turns off traction control (confirmed by a DIC message).

What precisely is the DIC message??

According to Rod Hall, who himself owns a Manual, the ETC cannot be turned off. It is on all the time. BTM is the only way to disable it.

For Dan's Q;

If you are rock crawling, BTM will override the system. It is very important to NOT spin your wheels. Although, it may seem like you would need three feet!

[NEOCON1]

dan has 3 feet LOL

[HummBebe]

Something I just thought about...
How can the same button mean one thing in one truck and something else in another???

Doesn't make sense, but then again, I'm not an engineer.