diesel

[-=Mac=-]

Anyone else think a diesel engine option for the H3 would be a great idea?? I've had a couple of diesels... in fact, I traded a diesel 4X4 truck for my H3... and diesel suits wheeling like nothing else: gobs of torque, low revs, no electrics to get wet, cheaper to run.

GM, if you're reading, think diesel H3!!

-Mac

[HummBebe]

Sorry sweetie, we've been busy playing with a troll.

Yes we would love a diesel for the H3. Might be a while, like 3-5 years before we see one in the US. But it will show up eventually.

[Wisha Haddan H3]

diesel =

[f5fstop]

Originally Posted by -=Mac=-

Anyone else think a diesel engine option for the H3 would be a great idea?? I've had a couple of diesels... in fact, I traded a diesel 4X4 truck for my H3... and diesel suits wheeling like nothing else: gobs of torque, low revs, no electrics to get wet, cheaper to run.

GM, if you're reading, think diesel H3!!

-Mac

I don't like the idea, and it will be quite a while before one hits the USA market. But there is one going to Europe next year.

I have no desire for a diesel in my H3. I have no desire to have a diesel in any of my vehicles (SUV/sports sedan/sports car).

S.

[-=Mac=-]

Originally Posted by HummBebe

Sorry sweetie, we've been busy playing with a troll.

Yeah, I noticed... Your remarks in my introduction thread make sense to me now.

Originally Posted by f5fstop

I don't like the idea, and it will be quite a while before one hits the USA market. But there is one going to Europe next year.

I'm curious as to why you don't like the idea.

While I certainly don't aspire to follow Europe's example in most things (especially their penchant for socialism) Europe has diesel available in most models of vehicles. Almost all of their larger vehicles are diesel powered. Here in North America, diesels remain the exception. Given the huge advances and improvements made in the past decade, diesel is an excellent option, especially for vehicles like the H3.

-Mac

[Desert Dan]

I would not want a diesel in a light duty vehicle.
I wouldn't want to behind a diesel while wheeling. No Thanks

Maybe a Cummings diesel if I was towing horses, hogs or hay of a trailer.



If you have a leaking gerry can of diesel I wil stink up the truck and won't evaporate.

[f5fstop]

Originally Posted by -=Mac=-

Yeah, I noticed... Your remarks in my introduction thread make sense to me now.


I'm curious as to why you don't like the idea.

While I certainly don't aspire to follow Europe's example in most things (especially their penchant for socialism) Europe has diesel available in most models of vehicles. Almost all of their larger vehicles are diesel powered. Here in North America, diesels remain the exception. Given the huge advances and improvements made in the past decade, diesel is an excellent option, especially for vehicles like the H3.

-Mac

They stink, and for the cost of the diesel, as well as the higher cost of diesel fuel, it is not worth the price. I will be satisifed with a nice V8 .
Desert Dan said it best, for this size vehicle, unless you are pulling a farmyard full of animals, a diesel is not necessary. For a vehicle the size of an H2, a diesel might be ok, but if an option, I would not purchase one.

[-=Mac=-]

Here in Canada, the cost of diesel fuel is about the same as the cost of regular gasoline and much less than premium. I wasn't aware that diesel cost was more in the States.

The smell of diesel fumes are an acquired taste, I suppose, but the new diesels aren't the black-belching monsters of the past. My old Dodge was loud but the new Cummins aren't any noisier than a gas engine and get nearly double the mileage with more torque. The only downside is weight but even that is relative. My wife's grocery getter is a Volksdragon Jetta TDI. It is quiet and smooth running, no smell, gets great mileage and has decent power in a small package.

Daimler-Chrysler is plunking their new Bluetec diesel into their 2007 Grand Cherokee. It'll be interesting to see how that works out.

-Mac

[GregDiesel]

the only Diesel in my Hummer is me...

[HummBebe]

HEY!!!

THE CHIKIN IS BACK!!!


WELCOME BACK

[GregDiesel]

thanks baby

[-=Mac=-]

Originally Posted by GregDiesel

the only Diesel in my Hummer is me...

I didn't know... I've been driving your name around for years and loving every minute of it...

-Mac

[timgco]

WHere's the V8 at? When?

SAVE the deisel for the H2.

[K9sH3]

A deisel would be ok with me, But I would rather have the snorkel set up first.

[H3PAC]

Originally Posted by f5fstop

They stink

I like it!

[-=Mac=-]

Originally Posted by H3PAC

I like it!

As one of my friends likes to say "You dropped it... you pick it up!!"

-Mac

[lennyrebel]

Originally Posted by -=Mac=-

Anyone else think a diesel engine option for the H3 would be a great idea?? I've had a couple of diesels... in fact, I traded a diesel 4X4 truck for my H3... and diesel suits wheeling like nothing else: gobs of torque, low revs, no electrics to get wet, cheaper to run.

GM, if you're reading, think diesel H3!!

-Mac

Okay first of all Diesels pump out known carcinogens. NO. 2 When you crack a barrel of crude depending on grade you can get more than 50 gallons of gas and perhaps 20 gallons of stove oil with some propane depending on time of year etc. So because diesel is not nearly so refined it has more btus per gallon so its heavier but a barrel of crude gives you 40 gallons of diesel. Big savings in refinery costs so more energy at roughly same per gallon price. However if we all start burning diesel I'm sure price will soar . Catalytic converters for 2007 for diesels. Watch these all plug up from soot. Presently diesel emissions are only checked for clarity,ie if some light will pass through exhaust its a pass, never mind all the crap your inundating everyone with. I don't think diesel is much of an answer unless your trying to cure over population. The Rebel

[-=Mac=-]

Originally Posted by lennyrebel

I don't think diesel is much of an answer unless your trying to cure over population. The Rebel

Knowing my luck, the wrong people would end up dying so it isn't even good to cure over-population!!

Seriously, your arguments were valid 10 years ago but the technology has advanced remarkably. According to what I've read (yeah, I know... seeing is believing) the Bluetec being produced by Mercedes is cleaner than a gas engine. One of the key differences between European and American diesels has always been the higher sulfur content allowed in American diesel fuel. The oil companies are now producing more refined (ie: less sulfur) diesel which won't produce as much gack to clog everyone's lungs. Advances in technology, better fuel... it's all good. Then there's the biodiesel possibilities.

In the meantime, I'm not contrary to gas engines. I didn't buy an H3 to sit in the garage. I'm just open to alternatives.

-Mac

[thedieter]

No. Almost all of our driving is short hops and I think diesels should be warmed up more for best results.

Also, diesel here is $0.70 more at local station which would wipe out any cost advantage. (rip-off)

Could the refining costs to remove sulfer be causing the higher cost for diesel?

I agree that if large numbers of cars use diesel, we will all pay more hidden for trucking costs.

Best regards, Happy Jack