When do you change your oil?

[ChiHummer3]

Hey, all!
When is everyone changing their oil....when OnStar says to, or sooner??

With other cars I used to change my oil every 3K miles religiously, but I've been stretching out the oil changes since getting the H3. Those monthly emails from OnStar make it sound like I can drive forever before needing to change the oil.

Is that GM's way of getting you to screw up the engine so ya have to buy a new car sooner??

[NewHummerGuy]

"Is that GM's way of getting you to screw up the engine so ya have to buy a new car sooner?? "


Is this a serious question???? I sure as hell hope you arent trolling on a Friday. That aint cool.

[ChiHummer3]

Wow! Good morning to you too!

Nope - not trolling. Just looking for opinions.

Like I said, I used to always change the oil every 3K....and now they're telling me I can go over 10K -???? Just seems a little strange (to me).

Didn't mean to ruffle any feathers.

[NewHummerGuy]

No feathers ruffled. Just a stupid suggestion that a company would purposely design something and give you bad information so that you would then have to come back and have them repair it for FREE UNDER WATRRANTY.

Now you see why I was so skeptical?????

Some light reading for you:

Technology, Simplicity Blend to Make Vehicle Maintenance Easy

During fall car care month, GM Goodwrench and OnStar help owners get current with maintenance needs

DETROIT (Oct. 19, 2006) ? Is your oil ready to be changed? Do you know how much air pressure is in your tires? Even if you don?t know the answers to these important maintenance questions, chances are, your GM vehicle does. Most GM vehicles today are equipped with advanced technology that helps take the hassle out of vehicle maintenance.
GM?s Oil-Life System determines when it?s time for oil changes and maintenance
GM?s patented Oil-Life System (GMOLS) can double or even triple the time between oil changes when compared to the common 3,000 mile recommendation by evaluating engine and driving conditions. The system is driven by a sophisticated, yet simple algorithm that predicts oil life base on two key parameters and driver use.
?Our engineers have studied oil life for decades, and they learned that oil life tends to degrade in a predictable pattern,? said Peter Lord, executive director, GM Service Operations. ?The GM Oil-Life System simply measures the two key factors that enable us to predict the optimum time for the oil to be changed ? engine revolutions and temperature.?
The beauty of the GMOLS is that it will automatically adjust the oil change interval based on engine characteristics, driving habits and the climate in which the vehicle is operated. For instance, mild highway driving in a warm climate will maximize the interval between oil changes. Depending on the vehicle, this could be in excess of 12,000 miles. On the other hand, short trip driving in a cold climate may limit the oil change to 3,000 miles or less.
If used as intended, the GM Oil-Life System can help consumers save the time and money associated with unnecessary oil changes. More than 95 percent of GM vehicles on the road ? or 20 million GM vehicles built since the 1990s ? are equipped with GM?s Oil-Life System technology.
With all of the time and financial constraints on consumers today, GM Goodwrench believes in using technology to deliver convenience and value to vehicle maintenance.
?Today?s consumer doesn?t have the time for unnecessary trips for maintenance,? said Lord. ?The Oil-Life System makes it simple to know when you need maintenance. When the oil change light comes on, the driver simply brings the vehicle in for maintenance.?
The dealership can change the oil and filter and reset the system, as well as check belts and hoses, rotate tires and change the air filter (does not require changing every visit)? Lord said.
Service reminders from above
GM customers can also be reminded of vehicle maintenance needs through OnStar Vehicle Diagnostics, an industry-first service available only from GM. This service collects valuable maintenance information on four of the vehicle?s key operating systems from hundreds of diagnostic checks and sends a personalized e-mail directly to the owner.
Here?s a rundown on the benefits of OnStar Vehicle Diagnostics:

• Tire Pressure Monitoring ­? Being rolled out in select models by the end of 2006 and across the majority of GM?s lineup throughout 2007, consumers will be notified of their vehicles? current tire pressure and the manufacturer?s recommended tire pressure.
• E85 Ethanol Compatibility ? The e-mail also notifies drivers if their vehicles are E85 ethanol compatible and links owners to GM?s www.livegreengoyellow.com website, which links to the National Ethanol Vehicle Coalition?s (NEVC) handy E85 ethanol station on-line look-up tool. OnStar subscribers can search for E85 ethanol stations by using the NEVC?s look-up tool, or by simply pressing the blue OnStar button to receive directions to the nearest E85 ethanol station when driving.
• Enhanced Vehicle Emissions Data ? The OnStar monthly diagnostic e-mail also includes detailed vehicle powertrain emissions data for additional peace of mind.
• Enhanced Oil-Life Monitoring ? The OnStar Vehicle Diagnostics e-mail will predict the mileage at which the next oil change will be needed based on current driving patterns, allowing drivers to know when an oil change is likely to be necessary.
• Other Services ? In addition to these enhancements, OnStar Vehicle Diagnostics also notifies subscribers of the status of the engine, air bag, antilock brake and OnStar systems, as well as the current mileage. The report also includes scheduled maintenance alerts.

OnStar Vehicle Diagnostics can be activated on millions of 2004 model year or newer OnStar-equipped GM vehicles that have GM's Oil-Life System and diagnostic capabilities. An active OnStar subscription is required for enrollment; subscribers can enroll at the OnStar website (www.onstar.com) or press the blue OnStar button and sign up through an advisor.
GM Goodwrench and OnStar recommend that October, which the Car Care Council designates as Fall Car Care Month, is an excellent time for consumers to have their vehicles inspected before the busy holiday season approaches.
GM Goodwrench Maintenance Tips
For extra security on the road, GM Goodwrench encourages you to bring your vehicle to your local GM Goodwrench dealership for an inspection during October, Fall Car Care Month. The inspections help identify service items that can help vehicles run better, last longer, retain value and provide optimal safety and security. GM Goodwrench recommends the following:

• Keep tires properly inflated: According to the U.S. EPA, you can improve fuel economy by about 3.3 percent by keeping tires properly inflated (www.fueleconomy.gov)
• Have routine engine maintenance performed: Fixing an engine that has failed an emissions test may improve gas mileage by four percent, on average -- the equivalent of 12 cents a gallon (fueleconomy.gov)
• Replace your batteries if necessary: Weak batteries can lead to breakdowns ? possibly at the worst time and place.
• Have your brakes inspected: An expert inspection can determine whether brakes are functioning properly with full braking capability.
• Replace worn windshield wipers: Old or worn windshield wipers can lead to poor visibility.
• Have your headlamps adjusted: Properly aimed headlamps are a must for optimal visibility .
• Follow the oil change intervals recommended by your owner?s manual : Minimize engine wear and reduce the possibility of internal damage. Over 95 percent of 2004 and newer GM vehicles follow the Simplified Maintenance schedule which can save both oil and money. Check your vehicle?s Owner?s Manual for recommended intervals.
• Check your fluid levels: Improper fluid levels ? including coolant, oil, power steering, transmission, brake fluid and even washer solvent ? can negatively affect vehicle performance, durability and safety.
• Have your belts and hoses inspected: A broken belt or ruptured hose can cause costly engine damage and travel delays.

Goodwrench is the service brand for GM vehicles. With dealerships located nationwide, the GM Goodwrench network is one of the largest automotive service chains in the industry. GM Goodwrench technicians receive specialized training from General Motors to provide expert care for GM cars and trucks. Genuine GM replacement parts are manufactured to the exact specifications of the GM vehicle. For more information, visit the GM Goodwrench web site at www.goodwrench.com .

[ChiHummer3]

Thanks for the reply. I appreciate the input.

Your attachment came straight from GM, so of course they're going to back their own story. That only makes sense.

I'm just wondering what the average opinion is.

[NewHummerGuy]

Originally Posted by ChiHummer3

Thanks for the reply. I appreciate the input.

Your attachment came straight from GM, so of course they're going to back their own story. That only makes sense.

I'm just wondering what the average opinion is.

You are right. They are lying. The average opinion on this site is to change the oil every 1,000 miles depending on driving conditions. I personally in my H2 do an oil change every 250 miles but thats because I wanna be extra careful.

Listen man, it has been known for a LONG time that changes every 3k miles was excessive. GM isnt the only manufacture with this technology in place now. The reason they (all manufactures) have always said to do it this often is because they know people are too busy and forget. If they go say 4k or 4,500 miles nothing will be hurt. Now the technology is here so that the system monitors the breakdown of the oil and then this gives you a fairly reliable guide.

On my H2 I do not wait for the computer to tell me oil life is 0%. I usually get it done around 20-25% or so.

GM isnt trying to trick you as much as you would love to believe that.