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Old 02-05-2007, 09:22 PM
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Default Re: MAJOR Problems - Need Help Desperately

why cant you just take it to a normal place like firestone or something. Go to a mechanic.
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Old 02-05-2007, 10:18 PM
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Finally the big question:

Why did this happen to me? I know it sounds depressing but I got the impression, form surfing the net and in this forum, that this is not a common problem. I don?t want it to happen again!

Thanks,

Marlus / Brazi


AHA!!!!!

I knew you were a troll!!!!

You are not the victim here. You spent, several thousand dollars on a vehicle importing it to your country, yet the conversation of "who is going to service my truck in Brasil?" never came up before you went through all the trouble of planning and executing a task the size of importing a HUMMER???

Who sold it to you? Call them before you come onto a worldwide public forum and announce you are having "MAJOR PROBLEMS" with your H3.

I call bullcrap

F5 et al. Thanks for helping this turd.....but I have a hard time believing this.

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Old 02-06-2007, 12:19 AM
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Default Re: MAJOR Problems - Need Help Desperately -Answering HummBebe and Whaaaaat

HummBebe,

I am not sure I get your last posting. Are you suggesting that I am not having all these problems? That I am making this up? That makes no sense. Why would anyone do that?

If you wish I will send you pictures of the car, of the VIN. I have written in my first posting ALL my phone numbers. Call me and I will gladly give more details on this. Call me collect but I want you to post our conversation here later. I will do more, if you wish. I will pay your ticket to come to Brazil and if there is no problem with my car, you don?t have to pay me back. Of course, you will have to help us solving this problem and pay for the ticket as soon as you test the car.

I knew when I bought the car that the warranty would not be covered in Brazil. I just did not expect to have these kinds of problems so soon.

I had a very good deal with the import services company and I bought because I think H3s are great. I want it to work ASAP.

All I asked in my last posting is what could have caused this failure since I get the feeling it is not common.

Answering whaaaat:

The car is in a mechanic now. The H3 is probably the only on in my city (population 1.5 million). This company specializes in imported cars but they have never seen and H3. Only H2s. When I took it there, there were a number of Ferraris and BMWs. The equipment (and people) needed to reprogram an H3 PCM don not exist in Brazil. I would guess, in the whole country there are no more than 20-30 of these cars. I do not blame GM for this. They do not sell Hummers here. You have to import them directly.

One more thing:
A few months ago I had a tracker/locater installed in the car. The tech people that did it, tell me that it is very simple and guaranteed it has nothing to do with this problem. I had it taken off as soon as the problems started.




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Old 02-06-2007, 01:13 AM
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The title of your post is offensive.

Imagine how if you were someone looking to purchase a HUMMER and you came across a post like this. Would it not make you take a second thought about purchasing one?

Now you are telling us that you had an aftermarket device installed on your vehicle (a few months ago), and you are running it with fuel that the vehicle is not designed for.

I would have done a hell of alot more research before I brought an expensive vehicle into my country.

A troll is someone who comes on to a forum like this and makes inflamatory statements in order to discredit a product.

My point is...the HUMMER is not the issue. If you are not a troll, I apologize sincerely.....if you are, well....you know what to do.

Vin numbers mean nothing to me, I have no way of checking to see if you are real.

You need to find someone who is willing to work with you and GM in getting your vehicle working again.

You could change the title of your thread....makes you sound like a mama's boi.
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Old 02-06-2007, 01:46 AM
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Default Re: MAJOR Problems - Need Help Desperately - Monday Update

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Status This Monday

So ?


I have to talked to GM in Brazil. They will not support/give any assistance to this car in Brazil. They don?t have anyone trained and their dealers do not have access to GM?s international support area.

I have sent emails message to the original dealer (Landers). No replies, so far.

I have contacted (email) pcmforless.com and asked them about sending a PCM here.

The motor used in the H3 is not used in any Brazilian or commonly imported car here.

I have a few questions, if you can help me:

1. How large is the PCM and approximately how much does it weigh? Don't know but it cant be more than 10lbs or 5 kilos, no way. But i think its around 2-4 pounds, a kilo or so. I assume your asking because of shipping.
2. Would you reprogram this PCM differently or would you keep the original standard data?I assume you ask this because pcmforless asked if you wanted to change it, they can mod it for you. There are several things that they can do to make the pcm more customized to the way you drive, and from what i hear it can help with milage and hp. so yeah i woul ddo the reprogram from pcmforless.
3. Can an experienced mechanic/engineer can switch the PCM without many problems? I think even you can switch it out. it is most likely held by some screws or clips. The only connections that go to it must be connectors so its just snap off, snap on.
4. Is there anything else I should do? Prey?

Finally the big question:

Why did this happen to me? I know it sounds depressing but I got the impression, form surfing the net and in this forum, that this is not a common problem. I don?t want it to happen again! Dont worry about it, it could happen to anyone, just bad luck i guess. I havent been trouble free but nothing even close to what i would call a problem, just creaks and rattles.

Thanks,

Marlus / Brazi

Good luck!
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Old 02-06-2007, 01:53 AM
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Default I will change this title somehowRe: MAJOR Problems - Need Help Desperately

Ok HummBebe, here we go ...

1. I agree that the title of this thread is a bit too much. I did it purposely so that I could get attention. How would you feel if the help you need for something was 6 thousand miles away? I could not find it but If someone can tell me how, I will change the title to - Major Problem Overseas, Need Help - or something like that.

I am also willing to bet that some people read the posts and are thinking: ?Man, this guy is F&?%(&? .

2. I have the problem with the car for about 3 weeks and here, at this forum, was by far the best help I got. I took it to 3 mechanics and called another couple in Sao Paulo. I contemplated bringing someone from the US to work in the car. This will get very expensive. By the way, after import duties, this car is over US$ 60.000 here. I am also afraid of loosing a lot of money.

3. As far as why importing a car (any car) ? that is a personal decision. I love my H3. No intention to discredit at all. Actually, we can all live well and drive ford pintos ? we can all survive with that. Why do spend money in Hummers, or any other car? Because we like them and they make us feel good, somehow. At least that?s my opinion.

4. I don?t believe that anybody will give up on buying an H3 because some guy in Brazil had problems. If they do, I would say that is a very stupid reason for not purchasing it.

5. Mama?s boy is offensive. You don?t need that to make a point.
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Old 02-06-2007, 01:59 AM
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5. Mama?s boy is offensive. You don?t need that to make a point.

for an

We started off on the right foot!

Now tell us how we can help. You are screwed it sounds like....what can we who are 6000+ miles away do for you?

F5 gave you great info....he is the best we have to offer.

Did you try calling HUMMER? (not GM)
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Old 02-06-2007, 02:53 AM
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What can you do? The help I got here was GREAT. I am just waiting for a reply from pcmforless and from the dealer where the car was originally purchased.

I will also try to cover everything before I start bringing parts from the US. It takes time and money.

I called Hummer in the US. There is no Hummer office in Brazil. They gave me GM’s phone number here. I called both commercial and the tech depts. At GM and they just told me that Hummers are neither represented nor supported here.

I want to make one thing clear: I don’t blame GM for not having service for this car here. It make no sense for them and I knew that when I bought the H3. I took my chances ...
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Old 02-06-2007, 03:01 AM
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Default Re: MAJOR Problems - Need Help Desperately

just a little edit towards my above post. If the pcm is comparable with the bcm i think it would weigh less that a pound or around there. I think the pcm has a heatsink or something so then it may weight a bit more.
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Old 02-06-2007, 04:40 AM
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This might be of some help as well.....

http://www.books4cars.com/viewcart.a...s&BookID=29104

2006 H3 shop service repair manual by Hummer (B06_GMT06NH3)
$169.95
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Old 02-06-2007, 08:53 PM
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I have a few questions, if you can help me:

1. How large is the PCM and approximately how much does it weigh?
2. Would you reprogram this PCM differently or would you keep the original standard data?
3. Can an experienced mechanic/engineer can switch the PCM without many problems?
4. Is there anything else I should do?

Hi, Kelly from PCMforless here.

The PCM is small, perhaps 7"x7"x1" and weighs about 3lbs. It is something that can be switched out without needing the expertise of a mechanic.

However I am not sure that replacing the PCM would be the right thing, as this sounds like a problem with another control module, or braking system. In the PCM we are able to change things like timing, air/fuel, speed limiters, transmission issues, fans, etc etc but there are no areas to change or turn off codes for the braking system. Furthermore I would have to send you a new computer, which would require a CASE relearn. And since there are no dealerships near you, you would not be able to have that done.

Sorry but I do not think there is anything we can do to help you.
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Old 02-06-2007, 11:45 PM
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According to Kelly, from pcmforless, a new PCM will not fix the car.
Do you guys have any ideas/comments?

Thnx
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Old 02-06-2007, 11:59 PM
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Pull all three of your computers and send them to Mexico? They have Hummer dealers there.
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I can take all computers and send everything to a dealer in the US, bit what will they do to them and will the car work when I get the computers back?
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It's a crapshoot I know, but better than not being able to do anything, yes?

I do not understand why any Chevy Dealer in your area cannot order the program for your HUMMER. (language/system maybe)

Can't is very different than won't. Looks to me like you only have the two options.
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I can take all computers and send everything to a dealer in the US, bit what will they do to them and will the car work when I get the computers back?

I suppose they can check for codes and tell you what may be wrong. If it is a computer issue, PCM BCM or EBCM, they can flash and reset then ship them back?
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I suppose they can check for codes and tell you what may be wrong. If it is a computer issue, PCM BCM or EBCM, they can flash and reset then ship them back?

That's where you run into issues though - when you reflash the computer you need to do a CASE relearn with a tech 2 scan tool, and judging by his location it seems the chances of that are slim.
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Can the dealer do the case relearn and then send it back???
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Default Case Relearn - Can you do it only with the PCM?

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Can the dealer do the case relearn and then send it back???

That is the BIG question:

Can a new PCM be programmed and a CASE relearn done without the whole vehicle, using the original data?

If not, I do not see another alternative than to bring a tech specialist with all the equipment needed to Brazil. That will make a US$ 100 problem turn into a very expensive ordeal.

I will also insist with GM(Brazil) and Hummer(US) to see if they can help me.

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AHA!!!!!

I knew you were a troll!!!!

blah...blah...blah...blah...


I call bullcrap

F5 et al. Thanks for helping this turd.....but I have a hard time believing this.



Gee, you're mean!! Stop calling everyone a troll or AE!
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