Has anyone else had to have the entire head replaced? I smell recall.

[Modley]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by NEOCON1:
this many vehicles ? you said you heard of two besides yours thats not many </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Please read from the original post.

"That was Sat I called today to check and see the status and found out the now have 5 with this problem."

[DarthKarl]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Modley:
Do you guys read my typing </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Read my typing:

Troll

1. verb,noun: To utter a posting on Usenet designed to attract predictable responses or flames; or, the post itself. Derives from the phrase “trolling for newbies” which in turn comes from mainstream “trolling”, a style of fishing in which one trails bait through a likely spot hoping for a bite.

[HIHUMMER]

Sure doll. You want to vent, this is the place to do it.

You love your hummer, but wish you never bought it??

Don't mean to kick you while your down. I'm just feeling a little feisty today. Please..continue.

[boomer]

i had simular problem with a wrangler with about 10000 miles, wanted to rebuild head. i told them i didnt shell out $27000 to have head rebuilt at 10000 miles. they said thats what 5 star told them they had to do.i called cunsumer affairs in detroit explained situation within 48 hours had new head put in. i would not let them rebuild anything on a truck that new. remeber squieky wheel gets the oil
my h3 should be here next week black luz ebony and marrocco chrome pac chrome wheels sun roof rear dvds mud flaps xm

[PARAGON]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Modley:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by timgco:
I CALL BS! Prove me wrong. What dealer? What service writer? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I tell you what I will PM you with the dealer info. You can call them and ask.

Does that sound fair? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Hey Jason, will you PM me too?

[bparker]

I have yet to hear about 1 head going bad (IE Warping). Recall? No way..

The lil 5 cyl enigine is "known" to be a great long lasting engine.

Will one or more break? Ugh, ya of course some will but I think the majority of them out there are running just great.

I hope it all works out for ya and if not remember you can always buy an electric car or a cammel..

[DarthKarl]

My diagnosis: Troll Boy

[Modley]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
I am a little confused or you are. The title AND you stated in your opening post that the head had to be replaced. Yet you followed that up with the fact that you are waiting because "He told me that the head has to go into a machine shop to get worked when they get the parts." </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

He said and I quote"The new head will go to a machine shop to be worked" He was speaking of the new head. He said "The new parts (e.g. valves) do not fit perfectly together and must be fitted to to the place that they seat.

Geez you guys sure defend you H3's

[usetosellhummer]

no dealer rep in his right mind would tell you other trucks are haivng the same problem and scare you like that. Sounds like Bull Sheeet

[f5fstop]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Modley:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DarthKarl:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Modley:
Do you guys read my typing </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Read my typing:

Troll

1. verb,noun: To utter a posting on Usenet designed to attract predictable responses or flames; or, the post itself. Derives from the phrase “trolling for newbies” which in turn comes from mainstream “trolling”, a style of fishing in which one trails bait through a likely spot hoping for a bite. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Look I did not come here looking to elicit a negative response I came here to ask


HAS ANY ONE ELSE HAD THIS PROBLEM?

It seems to be no.


Thanks for you hospitality. Jacka**es </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

[Modley]

What the hell's the Burgundy comment!

OK I got to go on a 8 hour drive in my rental.

You guys now know the dealer and F5 has the VIN

I assume that if someone calls the dealer they will tell you the same thing they told me.

I will check back in late tonight.

[DarthKarl]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Modley:
I stick with my original statements. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

And I'll stick with mine: TROLL

[Modley]

Sunrise Hummer Bartlett, TN

[f5fstop]

Amazing, you can actually read my mind. No, I did not jump into that previous message, or this message with a closed mind. As for your message, I have to ask, being the ASE certified technician, why didn't you diagnose the problem. You had the vehicle, you could drive it; therefore, you should have been able to diagnose it.
I would hope that everyone understands that anytime I, or anyone else gives some information, it is with the fact that we cannot guarantee what we say is correct. We can only give what we know. If the vehicle had been driven by me, and diagnosed, then I MIGHT have been able to give you a correct assessment of the problem.
As for this thread. I guess I am cynical of any first thread that had some of the statements made by the poster; especially the last sentence. After years on many forums including Corvette and Jeep, I have found that most posts that start out that way are from trolls. This was a mistake on my part in regard to this thread, and I stated this a few posts earlier.
I attempt to help when I can, and there are many threads I don't say a thing in since I know not what the answer MIGHT be. However, if there is something that could be the problem, I'm more than happy to address the issue.
As for good things, do I apologize because I do have a H3 that has been pretty much trouble free? I don't think so. The troubles reported on this site are only a very small number, not only on this site, but with overall sales. How many are on the H3 forum? Under 1000, and there are over 27K sold and on the roads. If a few have problems, then I feel for them, but I would not say that with these numbers any problem would be considered a crisis.
(I have complained about some of the things I believe should be fixed with the design such as brake pedal placement, window switches, wiper park position, etc.)
Yes, it is true that a few on here have problems, and all those who have problems have legitimate complaints, especially in regard to the replacement of BCMs (which I might add I checked supply today, and per GM Dealerworld's Epic system, there are none available).
I consider this to be BS and there is no reason, in my mind, why there are no BCMs available. Even for me, it has crossed my mind what do I do if a BCM goes out.
I do know that there is a large number of BCMs replaced by dealers, when testing proves out the BCM was not at fault, and this could cut supply, but why there are no BCMs available at this time, makes me wonder what in the H is going on. (Enough of my ramblings on the BCM which does pee me off.)

I see no reason why you can't ask a question on this forum. Most people mean well, and I promise not to add any comments in any of your threads you post from now on; if that is what you desire.

In closing, I do not want to fight or argue about these subjects; it takes up too much valuable time.

Have a good day (and that is not sarcasm)...

[KenP]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Mike B:
fiesty or PMSing? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>It's amazing how many times PMS comes up on this forum..... About once a month per woman.

[f5fstop]

I have not received any VIN information from you, so let's get that straight. Plenty of other people here have emailed me or sent private messages, so that is not the problem. But just in case, here is my address f5fstop@comcast.net.
Now, as for the cylinder head, to my surprise it is serviced as a bare head (why they do this amazes me). So, the dealer tech has to assemble with new valves, springs, head, etc., if the entire assembly was returned.
If there is this problem you are saying, the engineers would want the head back all in one piece, they would check it out. If nothing comes of the checks, they might have it installed on a test vehicle and driven to see if they can verify the original problem.

As for you, the take a logical view of your original post, and the mentions of recalls, the high number of vehicles (for one dealer this is high), and your now infamous last sentence, then you could draw the same conclusion that the rest of us did in the beginning. It looks like a troll post; especially since it was your first post.
We have quite a few trolls hit this website, as do other websites.

As for problems, from what I learned today, there is no large problem with the head. As in anything man made, some will break, some calibrations will go haywire, etc. This is not to say there won't be a problem in the future, but from what I learned today, the labor op for head replacement on this vehicle is very, very low. And labor ops are the main trigger for a problem, other than TAC input.
But TAC is not that reliable, especially since they are a contract firm, and not GM employees. In addition, there are NO preliminary investigations at this time on cylinder head issues on the H3 or on any other vehicle using this engine. A preliminary investigation is initiated by TAC to get info out to the field.

So, whether you send a VIN or not, is up to you, but stop saying I have it, because I don't. Personally, I have decided this thread is no longer any more fun, or informative, so since I'm out of here. My dog wants to go play in the snow.

[Modley]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HIHUMMER:
Your thought process is amazing. I hate that your having a problem with your H3..I really do...but the more you talk...the bigger of a hypocrite you look like.
I love my hummer but wish I didn't buy it
The dealer might be BSing me...but I don't want them to look bad.

WTF!!
I'm not trying to ride you a$$...I'm just trying to understand. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Geez you guys said he's Bsin me not me!

I said I wish I hadn't bought it at a time when I was just told there were major problems with it. And that there were others with the same problem.

What do you expect.

Now you guys say there is no know problem and that my dealer is BS'in me.

Who am I to believe random people on the net or my dealer?

Maybe we will soon know.

[Mike B]

If he had gotten a Prius this would never have happened.

[NoMoGMPG]

First out, I haven't been made aware of any widespread issues with the I-5 used in the Colorado/H3. That doesn't mean there isn't the possibility of isolated issues. I do know that we have not replaced a single cylinder head...yet. When GM requests that an assembly replaced under warranty be returned to the WPC (Warrany Parts Center) it is to determine the root cause of failure and to determine if replacement was warranted. This take time. If there is an issue, and it is widespread, then it becomes a recall or campaign to repair a defect. If it is an isolated event, usually regionalized, it goes out as a TSB (Technical Service Bulletin) and IF the issue is brought as a complaint by the consumer AND the vehicle falls under the parameters of the TSB, the repair is performed.

That is how it works.

Now, as far as replacement of the cylinder head being warranted, I believe that it is standard practice to tear it down and send it out for magnafluxing and surface flatness by a qulaified machine shop. If the valves were burned due to a lean condition, GM would pay to have the damaged valves replaced, no question. If the head is warped beyond specification, it would be replaced, no question. But if you read your new vehicle warranty, it clearly states redundantly, that GM will repair OR replace at their discretion. In other words, what would most benefit them, make the consumer happy, and cost them the least.

My guess is they suspect a calibration problem, are working on a temporary field fix to get by on, and will come out with a TSB shortly containing a recalibration.

[HIHUMMER]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">fiesty </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Don't be ugly Mike. I know where you live!