AM General or General Motors

[Ashley]

I plugged a chassis number of a 2003 H2 in to the Parts Imager and it came up with "Manufacturer AM General" then i did the same with a 2004 chassis number of a H2 and it came up with "Manufacture General Motors"?

Are these 2 the same or what????? Did GM list as AM General until 2004???

Many Thanks
Ashley

[Ashley]

I plugged a chassis number of a 2003 H2 in to the Parts Imager and it came up with "Manufacturer AM General" then i did the same with a 2004 chassis number of a H2 and it came up with "Manufacture General Motors"?

Are these 2 the same or what????? Did GM list as AM General until 2004???

Many Thanks
Ashley

[OrangeCrush]

I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong but I think you are right. I think the first year the H2 was out, it was still considered AM General. It wasn't until 2004, it became GM.

You're welcome
Mark

You're welcome
Mark

AM General builds the H2, whereas GM designed and markets it. GM bought the HUMMER brand name back in 1999, but I don't think anything changed about the relationship im 2004.

[Hummer Guy]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by mstams:
AM General builds the H2, whereas GM designed and markets it. GM bought the HUMMER brand name back in 1999, but I don't think anything changed about the relationship im 2004. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You nailed it -- and its been a Vortec since day one...

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PhilD:
That's right, I have a "real" Hummer, all you '04+ folks have a glorified GM Chevy Tahoe
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I had an 03 that was a "real" piece of crap. That's why I've now got an '05. Much better...

[VTSTOMPER]

isn't the H2 still built in the AMG plant(s)?

[HUMTECH]

H-2's from day 1 have been built by the general in their new hummer plant built beside the AM general plant. AM general never had anything to do with production of the H-2, in fact gm actually stepped in and helped in the design of the new h-1 interior. The only thing the 2 share is the hummer name, 2 different trucks built by 2 different companies.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HUMTECH:
H-2's from day 1 have been built by the general in their new hummer plant built beside the AM general plant. AM general never had anything to do with production of the H-2, in fact gm actually stepped in and helped in the design of the new h-1 interior. The only thing the 2 share is the hummer name, 2 different trucks built by 2 different companies. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

From the AM General website:

HUMMER® H1 & H2
Due in part to the military HMMWV renown in Desert Storm, AM General introduced a civilian version of the vehicle called the HUMMER in 1992. Known as “the world’s most serious 4x4,” the revolutionary vehicle has found favor with commercial users who appreciate the value of HUMMER’s long life and amazing performance, and individuals who seek the ultimate in toughness and mobility. In 1999, General Motors acquired the HUMMER brand worldwide and rebadged the current vehicle H1. In 2002, AM General began assembling the HUMMER H2 for GM in its new factory in Mishawaka, Ind. This vehicle was designed by and is marketed by General Motors.

http://www.amgeneral.com/vehicles.ph...ee1ceafb3daf7a

More from the AM General website:

HUMMER® H1 & H2
Producing a civilian version of the battle-tested military Humvee® was a natural progression for AM General. In 1992, when the HUMMER was introduced as a civilian truck, it had become apparent that the public understood its unique off-road capabilities.

Today the HUMMER H1® is still a vehicle without peer. It takes all the tough characteristics of the military High Mobility Multi-purpose Wheeled Vehicle (HMMWV) and refines them slightly for civilian use.

For nearly a decade, the HUMMER caught the country’s eye and it became a highly sought after, one-of a kind vehicle. It’s an icon of strength, durability and individualism.

In late 1999, AM General and General Motors Corporation finalized an agreement to jointly pursue product, marketing and distribution opportunities for HUMMER. Under the final agreement, GM acquired the exclusive ownership of the HUMMER brand name worldwide and the current HUMMER was renamed the HUMMER H1.

In 2002, AM General opened its new HUMMER H2® Assembly Plant in Mishawaka, Indiana, next to the plant that produces the military Humvee and the HUMMER H1. There it assembles the exciting new SUV and SUT variants of the HUMMER H2, designed and brought to market by GM.

http://www.amgeneral.com/vehicles_hummer.php

[PARAGON]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HUMTECH:
H-2's from day 1 have been built by the general in their new hummer plant built beside the AM general plant. AM general never had anything to do with production of the H-2, in fact gm actually stepped in and helped in the design of the new h-1 interior. The only thing the 2 share is the hummer name, 2 different trucks built by 2 different companies. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Try again.

No one on the GM payroll helps build the H2. You have it backwards. GM has nothing to do with building each H2.

[PARAGON]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PhilD:
Me thinks he's one of the "proper" Hummer owners that somehow feels his exclusive marque was diminished by the addition of more vehicles bearing the Hummer name, or maybe he's just misinformed... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Probably the latter, he's canadian, you see.

[EXH1X5]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by mstams:
AM General builds the H2, whereas GM designed and markets it. GM bought the HUMMER brand name back in 1999, but I don't think anything changed about the relationship im 2004. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Regarding the H2;

AM General LLC is simply one of thousands of GM suppliers. In the case of the H2, GM's "supplier contract" called for their SUV & SUT H2's to be "assembled" by a company named AM General LLC until the year 2009 at a rate up to 40,000 units per year.

Look at the H2 this way: GM designed it; certifies it; markets it through GM’s dealer network; warrants it; owns all the tooling; buys every single part to build it through their vast supplier network and then has them all drop-shipped to another of their suppliers (AM General) to further assemble GM's parts.

GM had argued with the DOT, NHTSA & EPA from day 1 that the H2 was a GM vehicle that was simply "assembled" by one of their suppliers (AM General) from 100% GM parts. Apparently it took GM over a year to cut through all the red tape and finally convince DOT & NHTA & EPA that the H2 is in fact a GM vehicle.

[PARAGON]

Regarding the H1;

AM General LLC is simply one of thousands of GM suppliers. In the case of the H1, GM's "supplier contract" called for their H1s to be "assembled" by a company named AM General LLC.

Look at the H1 this way: GM certifies it; markets it through GM’s dealer network; warrants it, supplies GM parts for it, etc, etc.