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Old 11-10-2005, 07:51 PM
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Finally Here is the real deal! High and Low beam Conversion and it does not cost an arm and a leg. I have Done the 1400.00 Delta HID and the longest THEY went without failing was a 2 week period. the 3rd time they failed I pulled them and sent them back. This looks like the ticket and my set is in the mail.
http://www.xtralights.com/index.asp?...PROD&ProdID=2\

Technical specifications:

Bulb Type: 9007
Color & Light Output:HID Bulb Color Temperature
(Kelvin) Light Output
(Lumen)
Golden Yellow 3000K 3400 (Brightest)
Crystal White 4300K 3300
Diamond Blue 6000K 3200
Deep Blue 8000K 3100
Violet Purple 10000K 3000

Life Span: Over 3200 Hours
Voltage Range: DC 10V-16V
Rated Voltage: DC 13.2V
Rated Current: 3.2A
Output: 35W
Working Temp: -40 to 105 F
Reverse Connection Protection: Yes - No damage to ballasts & bulbs)
Short Circuit Protection: Yes - Lock protection against continuous & long-time short circuit
Open Circuit Protection: Yes - Recover when reboot, lock protection in 0.2s after open circuit
Water & Weather Proof: Yes - 100%
High Voltage Test: GND:500Vdc/1 min>10mA
Isolated Resistance: GND > 100M Ohm
Dimensional specifications:

Ballast Module: 2.75" x 2.75" x 1.25"
20" wiring harness to igniter
24" wiring harness to power source

Factory Warranty:

2 years, except 1 year for bulbs
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Old 11-11-2005, 02:24 PM
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While i am on the subject of the DELTA HID's I'll mention another Pet Peve I had with the system. They Tout their Austrian Cut crystal lens's Has anyone else noticed that they send 2 Left lenses? They are asymmetrical. When I was tuning them at night with the beams shining on the Garage Door there was a obvious dead space at the Bottom right pattern of the passenger side beam. You would think that for 1400.00 they could afford to buy Left and Right Crystals?
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Old 11-11-2005, 01:57 PM
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This Item Has High and Low Beam as an option. I have ordered them. Simply go the ordering page and Select the High and Low from the drop down you can also select the Color of the beam you desire at that point. These are one third the price of the Deltas. They are also guarnteed Waterproof, There is a Video showing these being put into a fish tank with live fish in it While Lit. I'm sure if you go to the site and elplor the options manu of you will be as SOLD as I was. I have first hand experience with the delta product and would never go that route again.
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Finally Here is the real deal! High and Low beam Conversion and it does not cost an arm and a leg. I have Done the 1400.00 Delta HID and the longest THEY went without failing was a 2 week period. the 3rd time they failed I pulled them and sent them back. This looks like the ticket and my set is in the mail.
http://www.xtralights.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=2\

Technical specifications:

Bulb Type: 9007
Color & Light Output:HID Bulb Color Temperature
(Kelvin) Light Output
(Lumen)
Golden Yellow 3000K 3400 (Brightest)
Crystal White 4300K 3300
Diamond Blue 6000K 3200
Deep Blue 8000K 3100
Violet Purple 10000K 3000

Life Span: Over 3200 Hours
Voltage Range: DC 10V-16V
Rated Voltage: DC 13.2V
Rated Current: 3.2A
Output: 35W
Working Temp: -40 to 105 F
Reverse Connection Protection: Yes - No damage to ballasts & bulbs)
Short Circuit Protection: Yes - Lock protection against continuous & long-time short circuit
Open Circuit Protection: Yes - Recover when reboot, lock protection in 0.2s after open circuit
Water & Weather Proof: Yes - 100%
High Voltage Test: GND:500Vdc/1 min>10mA
Isolated Resistance: GND > 100M Ohm
Dimensional specifications:

Ballast Module: 2.75" x 2.75" x 1.25"
20" wiring harness to igniter
24" wiring harness to power source

Factory Warranty:

2 years, except 1 year for bulbs
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Old 12-03-2005, 10:17 PM
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Well, I just completed the HID retrofit writeup/article on the H1. My end cost after all the parts (excluding personal labor) is $315.

http://24.248.84.138/hummers/headlig...D_retrofit.htm

Really cool upgrade! And killer lighting pattern!

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Most Bi-Xenons aren't dual bulb versions. Fascinating!
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I won't disagree with you there.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I think they run about 1200 bucks a set. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Actually, they are only $700 a set
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Slight mod needed to both the bucket and the hole in the hood where it sits. I have done a few now and can do both in less than an hour. One suggestion to anyone getting these lights, we had a few probs of moisture getting onto the projector so we took them apart and siliconed everything and all was well again!
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Beastmaster:
The more I think about these units, the more ideas I come up with
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Steve,
How does all this lumen stuff relate to candlepower. Putting on lights recently, I researched state laws for home and surrounding states and they all have statutes talking about 300 candlepower limits on all lights in operation. Isn't candlepower luminous intensity? How can you get from a manufacturers rating wattage and lumens ratings to candlepower accurately, or can you?

Basically, are these statutes ancient cruft or something that the states can actually prosecute you on?
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
They're still in there. I'll have to remember to do a picture this weekend. I guess I could search and see if I have a picture on here. Seems like I put them in around the first of '03 or so.

PhilD also did them and figured out how to tap a hole to get to the other aiming screw to get them set right. I kept taking them in and out a couple of times and got lucky on the aiming. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ahh. Cool. The reason why I'm curious is because Allan Madar's picture is taken with photographic equipment that's a bit older, and therefore not as adjustable via PhotoShop.

I need to beat on NJ H2 next and have him get me high res pics of what he posted. Those are probably the best garage shots of the XE7's I've seen yet. There's a couple of jeepers that did the XE7 projector upgrade, but their stuff was all final install shots and no garage wall shots.

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I happen to have a set of Hella Projector Bixenons, retrofitted to my OEM housing. I have 0 problem with light scatter. The lght is bright and white with a very nice cut off. Back a few years ago there were no other housings available so I had to use the OEM. Although I have no complaints about mine if I were doing it now I would try to locate a better housing (if there is 1) and I would stay with the projectors!
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Projectors produce a far better light pattern than do any of the retro kits (I have personally sold and installed many of both and sell the exact kit referenced above). The retro kit is a huge leap over the oem flashlights, but tends to give an 'everywhere' or sloppy light refraction pattern and wastes a good portion of what is produced. Projectors do just that--project the light exactly where needed while not blinding oncoming traffic. If you want bang for the buck, do the retro kit, but if you want the best possible lighting solution to date, nothing beats true projection HID (for driving anyway--I am sure there are some dirivng around with 50 bazillion candlepower light bars!!).

However, I do believe that many states and the federal dot have recently passed laws making it illegal to put HID's on any vehicle that did not come from the factory with them. All the dealers that were selling kits in the US closed or moved up north of the border (at least the ones we dealt with).
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
Unless you were doing the projector, clearly Beastmaster's setup is the best route. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks! It took me about a year of experimentation to come up with this setup.

I really can't see how we all have to deal with crappy headlights. Halogens and DOT specs make for a really bad combination.

The question is - would someone buy it if I ever offered it for sale? My cost was $315. If I sold them for say, $350, would it be worth it?
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I,ve had the Delta HID's for 6 months with zero problems. Good light pattern, easy install, well designed package.
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I'd be interested in some of these details as well.

....since I have a set on their way to me this week.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Mr. I - Man:
Riddle me this? If the projectors are so superior to reflectors. Why do the Baja buggy and Trophy trucks rock the reflector HID setup.

I don't see any projectors on those vehicles, you would think if they were a better light source they would use them. They would save a lot of space a weight. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Projectors give better light patterns, but technically aren't as durable. They rely specifically on optic precision to help generate their light pattern.

Reflectors are far more durable. Free Form reflectors with clear lenses will outperform any other light in terms of durability.

That's why all off road units tend to use reflectors.
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Check these out.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Bi-Xenon-HID-Conversion-...dZ1QQsspagenameZWD1V
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Could you post some pics of the modifications required? I'm thinking about doing this myself...but want to make sure I'm not getting in over my head...

Otherwise, how much would it cost to have someone do it?
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