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More proof that robots will soon rule the world.
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Wow, but I prefer to do it myself.
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I didn't watch the whole 4 minutes. Does it have a happy ending?
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I didn't watch the whole 4 minutes. Does it have a happy ending?

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That thing made too many mistakes.

It could have bypassed 15 moves if it turned right on the fourth face and took the second level two turns to complete the red strip on the third face before he did the triple turn with the yellow to complete the first level blue on the first face.

And what was up with that dumb double turn on the reds L combo to make the incomplete yellow strip after the fourth face single turn? Totally gimped up the third row purple and the white H pattern set up on the 9th step double turn reverse color switch with the second and fifth face swap.

Just dumb.
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That was long 4 minutes.
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That was long 4 minutes.

Four minutes of your life you won't get back...

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That thing made too many mistakes.

It could have bypassed 15 moves if it turned right on the fourth face and took the second level two turns to complete the red strip on the third face before he did the triple turn with the yellow to complete the first level blue on the first face.

And what was up with that dumb double turn on the reds L combo to make the incomplete yellow strip after the fourth face single turn? Totally gimped up the third row purple and the white H pattern set up on the 9th step double turn reverse color switch with the second and fifth face swap.

Just dumb.

I have to agree.
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That thing made too many mistakes.

It could have bypassed 15 moves if it turned right on the fourth face and took the second level two turns to complete the red strip on the third face before he did the triple turn with the yellow to complete the first level blue on the first face.

And what was up with that dumb double turn on the reds L combo to make the incomplete yellow strip after the fourth face single turn? Totally gimped up the third row purple and the white H pattern set up on the 9th step double turn reverse color switch with the second and fifth face swap.

Just dumb.

get a life, you obviously have no idea of how pre-programed algorithms work.

considering this is a lego robot probably programed by some teen or college student it is pretty damn good. when it comes to ai the most sensible route is not always the best route. not even the most advanced ai is able match the processing power of the human brain, not even yours. well at least for now.

very nice.
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get a life, you obviously have no idea of how pre-programed algorithms work.

considering this is a lego robot probably programed by some teen or college student it is pretty damn good. when it comes to ai the most sensible route is not always the best route. not even the most advanced ai is able match the processing power of the human brain, not even yours. well at least for now.

very nice.

But robots, regardless of their roots are supposed to function accurately and efficiently. Robots that don't adhere to these two basic rules are called humans. Pretty damn good doesn't cut it, a human can do pretty damn good... a robot better do it perfect, every time.
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get a life, you obviously have no idea of how pre-programed algorithms work.

considering this is a lego robot probably programed by some teen or college student it is pretty damn good. when it comes to ai the most sensible route is not always the best route. not even the most advanced ai is able match the processing power of the human brain, not even yours. well at least for now.

very nice.

Can't tell that I was joking huh?


For pete sakes you're a fawking pinball mechanic! What the hell would you know about robotics? Watching the Sci-fi channel makes you not.
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no not really. no robot is perfect. robots make mistakes. thats why there are defects and inconsistencies in production. one robot making things over and over again cannot make them the same every time, nothing is perfect. but what i was actually talking about previously is ai(artificial intelligence). robots dont think randomly like humans do, they follow sets of instruction, algorithms, which may or may not make the most reasonable choice. what may look like a fun, colorful rubiks cube to a human, is just code for a machine that means nothing at all. it has to go a step at a time to figure things out, and it cant do that better than a human, at least for now.

edit: about your first sentence, the key word is supposed to, but thats not always the case.

There is no A.I. involved. It's an algorithm... it looks at the arrangement of the tiles and follows it's instructions. A.I. would involve a learning mechanism where the robot would receive basic instructions and improve on it by itself until it has perfected it.

Yes, robots are supposed to be perfect... well at least perform their task perfectly. What would be the point in designing a machine to do something half right? Yes, like any mechanical equipment they require maintenance and repairs.
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Can't tell that I was joking huh?

No Dennis, you were absolutely correct. Except for that second part, I nearly giggled my arse off the chair on that one. LOL.
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Just more proof that those kids at Cal Tech are taking too much Provigil (Alertec, for you Dennis!).

Does that thing adhere to the 3 Laws?
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There is no A.I. involved. It's an algorithm... it looks at the arrangement of the tiles and follows it's instructions. A.I. would involve a learning mechanism where the robot would receive basic instructions and improve on it by itself until it has perfected it.

Yes, robots are supposed to be perfect... well at least perform their task perfectly. What would be the point in designing a machine to do something half right? Yes, like any mechanical equipment they require maintenance and repairs.

all ai involves algorithms, one or many. not all ai has learning capability. conventional ai is not much more then a very complex and well thought out algorithm that has little or no learning capability. many software, especially gaming engines have conventional ai and yet most of them dont have learning capabilites.

and again yes it is supposed to be perfect but it isnt. there is no perfection in computer science. give me an example of any complex piece of software that cannot be improved, or made more efficient. i dont know what the reason would be that you think machines are perfect, when all around you they fall apart, even with maintenance or repair. and by the way software doesnt require maintenance and repairs. before i was refering to software inaccuracies that lead to imperfection, not hardware.

and yea dennis i didnt know you were joking. thought you might have stared at that thing trying to figure it out first. i know more about computer science than you would think.
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all ai involves algorithms, one or many. not all ai has learning capability. conventional ai is not much more then a very complex and well thought out algorithm that has little or no learning capability. many software, especially gaming engines have conventional ai and yet most of them dont have learning capabilites.

and again yes it is supposed to be perfect but it isnt. there is no perfection in computer science. give me an example of any complex piece of software that cannot be improved, or made more efficient. i dont know what the reason would be that you think machines are perfect, when all around you they fall apart, even with maintenance or repair. and by the way software doesnt require maintenance and repairs. before i was refering to software inaccuracies that lead to imperfection, not hardware.

and yea dennis i didnt know you were joking. thought you might have stared at that thing trying to figure it out first. i know more about computer science than you would think.

I didn't say algorithms aren't used in A.I., I just explained what the algorithm in the video likely followed. "A.I." in video games is just a set of techniques used to produce the illusion of intelligence, it is not artificial intelligence.

I don't know where you are going with this argument now but the end point is, robots are supposed to do something efficiently and accurately. If they fail it is likely due to lack of maintenance or outside variables such as input... if they fail of something else, it's due to poor design and we're back to what robots are supposed to do.
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