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This is great vid and worth the less than two minutes it takes to watch.
(Warning: Could induce eye water)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4fe9GlWS8
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American Troops are for Obama that is Fact, they donate 6 to 1 to his campaign,but its against SOP to voice thier opinion
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I'd like to see where you got that gem of information from. And don't post a link to some liberal crap either.
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McCain courts key vote of veterans in Florida

Visiting Jacksonville on Monday, John McCain will seek veterans' support with his story and military relationships.

Posted on Mon, Sep. 15, 2008



BY MARY ELLEN KLAS

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Cindy McCain, wife of Republican presidential nominee John McCain, sits with veteran Bob Stumpf during the Republican National Convention at the Xcel Energy Center in St. Paul, Minnesota, Tuesday, September 2, 2008.

? More Photos For hours in a dark Hanoi prison, John McCain pushed through the pain of his own wounds to stretch the fingers of fellow prisoner Bud Day along the cell wall, a makeshift attempt at physical therapy to restore movement to Day's torture-damaged tendons.
Nearly 30 years later, in Washington D.C., another aviator named Bob Stumpf was being grilled by a congressional committee for his minor role in the Navy's Tailhook scandal when McCain realized that the decorated pilot had been a student in his attack jet squadron at Cecil Field in Jacksonville.
McCain called the secretary of the Navy, John Dalton, and screamed, ''You're finished,'' according to news reports. The Arizona senator then worked on congressional leaders until Stumpf and other officers were cleared and Stumpf was retroactively promoted to commander of the prestigious Blue Angels aviation crew in 2002, six years after he had left the Navy.
PRO-McCAIN VETERANS
Today, Day and Stumpf are working for McCain.
They are chairmen of Florida Veterans for McCain, an organization of 125 retired military officers from across the state whose loyalty to the war hero brought many of them into politics as they fight for the coveted veterans' vote.
They'll be out in force Monday in Jacksonville -- where McCain's family lived when he was a prisoner of war -- when the candidate returns to the Veterans Memorial Arena in his first trip through this battleground state since the Republican convention.
By contrast, Democrat Barack Obama did not serve in the military, but he spent four years on the Senate Veterans Committee and is not ceding any ground to McCain for the veterans' vote.
His network of military supporters is not nearly as deep as McCain's, but the grandson of a World War II veteran has amassed his own contingent of war heroes, most of them recently out of combat in Iraq and Afghanistan. And Obama has collected six times as much money in political contributions from U.S. troops serving abroad as McCain, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.
Obama supporters, including former U.S. Sen. Bob Graham, began a three-day tour of Florida on Friday to call attention to veterans issues and the differences between the candidates. They cite McCain's opposition to increased funding for the Veterans Administration, improved healthcare benefits, and additional mental health and brain injury services -- all things that Obama supports.
Veterans form one of the strongest and most reliable voting blocs in the United States and are considered one of the most influential in Florida. In the 2000 election, 202 overseas ballots, most of which were from active-duty military personnel, made the difference in the race in favor of Bush.
The U.S. Census Bureau lists at least two million current or former active-duty military people in Florida. In Escambia County alone, veterans constitute 20 percent of all voters.
Obama supporters criticize McCain for voting against the new GI bill, which gives veterans expanded education and healthcare benefits, and while McCain supported the final version in concept, he didn't show up for the final vote.
''Sen. Obama gets it,'' Graham told reporters Friday. Veterans in the United States are moving to the South and the West, and services need to travel with them, he said. Obama is willing to recognize that ``there a fundamental difference in what we have had in the past and what we need to transition into.''
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Maj. Jerry Holt, who is directing Obama's veterans campaign in Florida, said that based on their Senate voting records, Obama earned an 80 percent rating from the Disabled American Veterans, while McCain got a rating of 20 percent.
'He has consistently voted against adequately funding the VA, even going so far as to say recently that he wants to ration veterans' healthcare to those with combat injuries,'' Holt said. ``That's unacceptable.''
McCain counters the criticism by vowing to improve access to high-quality healthcare for existing veterans and servicemen returning from Iraq. He is calling for a special veterans credit card to use medical facilities in their own communities. And he defends his opposition to the GI bill, saying that it didn't give veterans an incentive to reenlist and that he wanted to work to get something better.
For McCain supporters, the allegiance to him is less about issues and more about personal trust.
Day, an 80-year-old retired Air Force colonel and Fort Walton Beach lawyer, represented McCain in his divorce from his first wife and calls him an ''extremely close friend.'' He has spent years retelling stories about his nearly six months in an enemy prison cell with McCain.
''My first thought was they dumped this guy on me so they could blame me for his death,'' Day recalled. But in a short time, McCain's strength of character, wit and leadership skills changed Day's mind. ``I knew that if he survived, I knew that something very good was going to happen to him.''
Stumpf is a a 56-year-old FedEx pilot living in Pensacola whose first political campaign was McCain's 2000 presidential run.
''I started working for John because I owed him,'' Stumpf said. ``Then, I went to New Hampshire in January and watched him in action. He floored me with his grasp of the issues, his sense of humor, the way he handled hecklers, the way he listened to people. I thought, this is a guy that I would be proud to have as my president.''
Dozens of other military veterans in Florida trace their ties to McCain this election season the way a distant relative traces his ties to the family millionaire.
''He was not a personal bud of mine, but I can get you in touch with someone who was,'' boasted Gene Hall, 67, a retired Navy officer from Orange Park who served in the same air wing as McCain.
The older veterans trade McCain tales like trading cards, he said, and ``when we're sitting around having coffee, we talk about what kind of leader he'll be.''
NORTH FLORIDA TIES
McCain has ties to the military that stretch across North Florida. Whenever he returns to Jacksonville, he thanks the people for their ''kindness and goodness'' to his wife and their children while he was imprisoned.
He returned to Florida after being hospitalized upon release from his 5 ?-year ordeal as a Vietnam prisoner of war. First, he was sent to Pensacola Naval Air Station, where he endured months of grueling physical therapy to allow him to fly again.
In 1976, he was given command of the Navy's largest air squadron at Cecil Field in Jacksonville, training pilots and crews for the A-7 light attack jet. That's where Stumpf met him.
Stumpf has helped put together the Escambia-based website vets4johnmccain.us, and posted a daily blog of veterans' interactions with McCain during the Republican National Convention in St. Paul, Minn. The statewide organization is helping veterans register to vote, recruiting volunteers, assisting with absentee ballots and distributing bumper stickers or brochures.
Many McCain supporters interviewed said it's easy to look past McCain's voting record on veterans' benefits issues.
Hall, the former air wing colleague, traveled to Washington last spring to work for passage of the GI bill that McCain opposed and concludes: ``Everybody can be on the wrong side of an issue, just like in battle. There's lots of battles, and you don't win them all.''
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Old 09-15-2008, 05:12 PM
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Of course he would get the vote of old Vets, they are his demographic, and GOD bless em,
but the statistic i heard was taken from presently serving, or recently retired vets, not including those who have been stop:Lossed,
It was during a debate on Sirius Satelite between an Ex- Marine and a Obama supporter, the Marine was for McCain, but against being in Iraq, and didnt want his friends going back there, "our Troops are needed in Afghanistan right now" he said,
He said where he got the 6 to 1 from, but unfortunetly i cant remember now
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He said where he got the 6 to 1 from, but unfortunetly i cant remember now

That's just like saying someone you know made that up.
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That's just like saying someone you know made that up.

I realize that,
thats why i'm pissed at myself i cant find the actual publication, because i knew you guys would be some what "skeptical" when i posted the intel,
if i get it, you know i'll post it.
Is it too much to ask to take my word for it?

On another note, tell me this isnt funny as hell, just saw it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PxJfaNgDoE

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it gets funnier every time i watch it !!!!!!!!!!!!
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If pictures are worth a thousand words...

These videos are undefined. The SNL take is funny
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On another note, tell me this isnt funny as hell, just saw it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PxJfaNgDoE
It's been pulled, but if that's the SNL vid with "Palin", then that's cracked me up everytime!

When asked about the skit, Palin said it was great, she "dressed up as Fey last Halloween".

Conservative women can be funny.
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Its very cool she can laugh at herself,
anyone remember when Will Farrell used to dress as Janet Reno
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anyone remember when Will Farrell used to dress as Janet Reno
Hell yeah that was funny and I don't even like SNL.
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