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Old 06-03-2006, 10:36 PM
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I was wondering if anyone had thought of dropping a diesel engine in your H3. Is there one small enough out there? Let me know if you know of one.
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Haven't heard of anyone doing it but also wouldn't expect to see it happen before they start getting beyond the warranty period.
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Theres rumor of an H3 Alpha in 2008...some say they add a turbo to the I-5, some say a diesel, others a v8 or v6. As of now its unclear, but they definately are looking for more power.
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I was wondering if anyone had thought of dropping a diesel engine in your H3. Is there one small enough out there? Let me know if you know of one.
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Do tell more...Paragon.
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only needed a 2 inch lift in the H1 to fit it...but my guess is it'd fit in the H3 if you pushed hard enough...you may want two people pushing..
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3 1/2 should do it.
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if the duramax would fit, would the allison trans? If that did, would you need a better transfer case? difs?
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if the duramax would fit, would the allison trans? If that did, would you need a better transfer case? difs?
You'd need a whole new drivetrain, a new front end, different steering, all new electronics, and not to mention, a bottomless wallet.

I would think the chances on getting a duramax are as good as Santa bringing me a 28yr old centerfold nympho for Christmas!
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only needed a 2 inch lift in the H1 to fit it...but my guess is it'd fit in the H3 if you pushed hard enough...you may want two people pushing..
I didn't say Duramax 6600, I simply said Duramax. Isuzu has a small, efficient, already-approved diesel that could easily become a smaller Duramax for the H3.
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Jeep did it in the liberty and couldnt give them away. to much money and it didnt even get that much more miles per gallon at all.i think it was like only 2 or 3 more in miles and cost so much more.

They are selling. Jeep isn't pushing them all that hard, as its an consumer educational issue. Its a small diesel that has pretty decent numbers. Ford talked about a V6 diesel in their half ton pickups for a while, something like that would be NICE in a H3.
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I didn't say Duramax 6600, I simply said Duramax. Isuzu has a small, efficient, already-approved diesel that could easily become a smaller Duramax for the H3.

How about a 5-cylinder Duramax, inline? Remember, the European market will get a diesel.
The Alpha will not have a turbo or a diesel.
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Nope, probably a 5.3L V8
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How about a 5-cylinder Duramax, inline? Remember, the European market will get a diesel.
The Alpha will not have a turbo or a diesel.

How similar would it be for a US made? I heard they euro version wouldn't meet US standards and couldn't be sold here...
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How similar would it be for a US made? I heard they euro version wouldn't meet US standards and couldn't be sold here...

Not sure, haven't received one yet, supposed to in the next few months. CA has the toughest diesel requirements.
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With the new rules for 2007 diesels, emissions will be even more of a factor thanks to California and Massachusetts helping "lead" the way towards eliminating diesels from the market.

Sarcasm aside, the new rules for 2007 and onward set by the federal government (and based on CARB recommendations) help prevent large scale diesel upgrades. 2006 may very well be the last year that you can get a good diesel vehicle and not be hounded to death by the rule sets.

Most vehicle manufacturers that promote diesel (VW, GM, Ford, Mercedes, Daimler Chrysler) can only sell their vehicles in about 45 states (passenger vehicles). Trucks seem to have a 50 state capability for now...until ULSD (Ultra Low Sulfur Diesel) comes through and you get a wackier situation where 2007 trucks have to literally hunt for ULSD stations.

Because of the stupid rulesets, many automakers won't take the time nor the hassle to do diesel vehicles. In Europe, where the rules are even stricter, they have good diesel vehicles and ultra low emissions. Too bad we can't follow the trend.
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