H3 Fuel Can Carrier Mount - install and review

[Beastmaster]

The writeup of the only known non-roof rack method of carrying a fuel can on the H3 can be found here:

http://www.azhog.com/h3_gas_carrier/h3_can_carrier.htm

Let me know if there's any misspellings, editing changes, etc. that need to be made.

Thanks!
Steve

[Sewie]

Nice write-up. Thanks!

[vador99]

Do you think it can fit an h2?

[hmrlvr]

Originally Posted by Beastmaster

The writeup of the only known non-roof rack method of carrying a fuel can on the H3 can be found here:

http://www.azhog.com/h3_gas_carrier/h3_can_carrier.htm

Let me know if there's any misspellings, editing changes, etc. that need to be made.

Thanks!
Steve

Nice job, thanks

[The Green Lantern]

Great Job!! I thought about putting one a long time ago but now I'm worrying about the weight load since I got 35" tire back on there. Thanks

[Beastmaster]

Originally Posted by The Green Lantern

Great Job!! I thought about putting one a long time ago but now I'm worrying about the weight load since I got 35" tire back on there. Thanks

35" tires on a stock rim or aftermarket? If it's a 35 on a stock rim, weigh the difference between that and a 33" tire on a stock rim and then add 33 lbs. If the total doesn't exceed a delta of 70-75lbs, you're fine.

The Hummer Regional Manager for Arizona says you can increase the weight max on the tire carrier by 70-75lbs. That can be tire, tire+fuel can, etc...

[Beastmaster]

Originally Posted by vador99

Do you think it can fit an h2?

Yes, if you do this:

Have someone locally cut the old plate out, and weld a new plate that matches the 8 bolt pattern for the H2.

[Mr. I - Man]

Originally Posted by Beastmaster

Yes, if you do this:

Have someone locally cut the old plate out, and weld a new plate that matches the 8 bolt pattern for the H2.

Or you can try this it works on the H2 perfectly and it also secures the gas cap making it tamper proof, it might also work on the H3.
http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/s...t=17484&page=2

[Beastmaster]

I've added some pictures and commentary to the review.

I've added pictures showing the additional amount of space the carrier takes up, how it relates to departure angle, rear hatch opening clearance, a closer view of the lock, and the use of a proper colored can.

I also show a side by side view of my H1's can carrier height and my wife's H3 can carrier height - it's very interesting to see the difference.

-Steve

[Beastmaster]

Originally Posted by Mr. I - Man

Or you can try this it works on the H2 perfectly and it also secures the gas cap making it tamper proof, it might also work on the H3.
http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/s...t=17484&page=2

I like that carrier, the problem is - where do you bolt it? The H3 doesn't have a swing away bar like the H2 does or the H1 does with aftermarket carriers.

-Steve

[Mr. I - Man]

Originally Posted by Beastmaster

I like that carrier, the problem is - where do you bolt it? The H3 doesn't have a swing away bar like the H2 does or the H1 does with aftermarket carriers.

-Steve

Ah, I was wondering that about the H3, there in lies the problem. Maybe to the bumper that is what it was originally designed for, albeit on a British military D90

[Beastmaster]

Originally Posted by Mr. I - Man

Ah, I was wondering that about the H3, there in lies the problem. Maybe to the bumper that is what it was originally designed for, albeit on a British military D90

No can do - the rear door swings towards the driver's side.

[wpage]

On mine I took some 1.5 aluminum L stock and mounted it under the H3 Stock D rings. Using 2 L's to make a vitual square. Then I mounted a large metal L bar for a future front optional tow ball mount. This same opening is my bolt thru for my military type mounting for 5 or 6 gal metalic gas can. It works well for gas can application...
Regards,
W. Page

[Beastmaster]

Originally Posted by wpage

On mine I took some 1.5 aluminum L stock and mounted it under the H3 Stock D rings. Using 2 L's to make a vitual square. Then I mounted a large metal L bar for a future front optional tow ball mount. This same opening is my bolt thru for my military type mounting for 5 or 6 gal metalic gas can. It works well for gas can application...
Regards,
W. Page

Pics?

And how does that affect the departure/approach angle?

[HummBebe]

Beautiful write up Beastie, I especially like the "finger" part

[f5fstop]

Originally Posted by Beastmaster

The Hummer Regional Manager for Arizona says you can increase the weight max on the tire carrier by 70-75lbs. That can be tire, tire+fuel can, etc...

Who says what? Regional managers = marketing or financial person...not an engineer.

[Beastmaster]

Originally Posted by f5fstop

Who says what? Regional managers = marketing or financial person...not an engineer.

Actually, the regional manager for Arizona is not a marketing guy - he's a techie more than a marketing person.

His background with Hummers dates back to 1992, when he was sent off to learn everything there was to them by a (then) fledgling group wanting to sell this newfangled vehicle that Arnold was touting and driving. He's able to fix 'em, drive 'em, and sell 'em. He knows a ton about the product line, and when he gives me a contact name at either GM or AM General, I get the answer I need when he doesn't have it.

So - I trust what he gives me....

[f5fstop]

So, you are saying the regional hummer guy works for AM General or the General?

[Beastmaster]

Originally Posted by f5fstop

So, you are saying the regional hummer guy works for AM General or the General?

Neither. The way Arizona's distribution works from what I can tell is that the Lund Group (who just happens to own 3 of the 4 Hummer dealers in Arizona) acts also as a port distributor. He works for Lund, and his salary is (or was) paid for by AMG and GM. I think now that the H1 is gone, his $$$ is coming all from GM now. I've known him for 5 years, and like I said, he goes way back to the original AM General dealer network when they established it. He's paid specifically to know the Hummer product line in and out, both mechanically and sales wise. He also test drives pre-production units as well, and is currently given a 2004 H2 to drive as a personal vehicle. He had an 2001 H1 as his personal vehicle for a while, and before that a 98 H1 wagon. Of course, it's nice having a GM Proving Ground test site in the same county as well....he gets to test out all the new toys. He also "teaches" other dealer reps and GM Execs the ins and outs of the vehicles. For example - GM and AMG sent in 2004 a ton of trucks (including the 2004 Optimizer H1 and the then new SUT, along with a pre-production Duramax H1 Alpha) , and he was responsible for teaching GM reps how the trucks perform off road. I helped participate in that, and it was fun. He's also done Moab, sand dunes, Paragon, you name it, he's been there with an H1 or H2. It's a really killer job, IMHO. Whenever he retires, I'd love to take his place. He gets decent money for driving around, going off roading, testing new accessories, and breaking stuff. All in a shirt and tie too - it's hilarious seeing him go around in a mud and dirt covered truck and he's all dressed up.

[f5fstop]

Works for a distributor and is paid by GM, or is he paid by Ratheon? Just curious, would like to look him up.