AVIC-Z1 install woes

[Lucifer]

Spent 8 hours installing a Z1 to only run into a problem at the end Tapped the brown wire in the drivers pillar for the reverse wire. Got lucky and the VSS wire was in my radio harness Used a Metra GMOS04 wire harness because it has the Onstar and chimes built into 1 unit and you can control the volume of the chimes, (turned way down). Also had to loop the 2 purple wires in the gm harness. Only problem now is that when the key is in accessory mode, I don't hear any music from the stereo, but Onstar still works. As soon as I open the door and the door chime starts ringing, the music from the stereo comes through. As soon as I shut the door, no more music. With the key turned to on, I don't get anything even with the door opened, but again Onstar still works. I'm going to call Metra in the morning, but was just curios if anyone has any ideas on this. Checked wiring 4 times, and all seems correct. Pretty strange if you ask me.

[HummBebe]

....wait........what?????

[NEOCON1]

freaky man F5 ?

[dеiтайожни]

Ugh! Sounds like a hassle. You should just trade me your avic-z1 for my fully functional and working n2 w/adapters and harnesses, it will really be less of a headache for you.

[Bully13]

DON'T CUT THE BLUE WIRE!!! wait... or is it the red!? WE'ER DOOMED!

[f5fstop]

If you previously had XM, there would be three purple wires to jump over; not two. Reason for the splicing of the wires is that the serial data link comes into the radio and then is supplied to Onstar and XM via the radio link. The Pioneer head unit does not pass this link through. There should be two purple in the 24-pin and 1 purple in the 12-pin. If you don't have factory XM, no problem.
Leave the factory XM if installed connected to power.

Did the adapter come with a relay setup that had to be wired for ignition on signal? I would have to confirm by looking at some schematics, but it sounds like the there is an incorrect wire connected and I don't have a schematic for the adapter you are using.

It is also very early...

[f5fstop]

When you say 'looped' the two purple wires, you did leave them connected to the connector as well, and connected a wire between the two purple wires.


Mute output wire from the radio, you did connect that to the cut brown wire that goes to terminal 18 of the PAC adapter? Not sure what would happen if connected to the other terminal of the cut wire.

Red from radio is connected to pin 30 of the relay? This gives you the ignition On input that is normally supplied by the BCM to the factory radio.

Need coffe to think....

[f5fstop]

Spee signal, Dark Green/white it was in terminal E of the small connector that attaches to the radio?
There are a couple dark green/white wires...

[f5fstop]

If you turn on your headlights, does the radio operate? I'm going to be curious as to what Metra says about this. I'm installing one next week myself, using the Peripheral adapters .

[f5fstop]

Did you reset the Z1 after install??

[f5fstop]

I give up, without the wiring schematic for the Metra adapters, which I can't find online anywhere, it is hard to determine how it connects.

[NEOCON1]

and i was happy to just add a set of 35's good luck with the gadgets

[hmrlvr]

Originally Posted by NEOCON1

and i was happy to just add a set of 35's good luck with the gadgets

do you just sit back and laugh at us with our STUFF??

[Lucifer]

Originally Posted by f5fstop

If you previously had XM, there would be three purple wires to jump over; not two. Reason for the splicing of the wires is that the serial data link comes into the radio and then is supplied to Onstar and XM via the radio link. The Pioneer head unit does not pass this link through. There should be two purple in the 24-pin and 1 purple in the 12-pin. If you don't have factory XM, no problem.
Leave the factory XM if installed connected to power.

Did the adapter come with a relay setup that had to be wired for ignition on signal? I would have to confirm by looking at some schematics, but it sounds like the there is an incorrect wire connected and I don't have a schematic for the adapter you are using.

It is also very early...

No XM, spliced the 2 purple wires in pin 24. Without the splice, Onstar wasn't working, and the 12v ignition wire wasn't hot.

[Lucifer]

Originally Posted by f5fstop

When you say 'looped' the two purple wires, you did leave them connected to the connector as well, and connected a wire between the two purple wires.
I just installed a double wire splice in between them.

Mute output wire from the radio, you did connect that to the cut brown wire that goes to terminal 18 of the PAC adapter? Not sure what would happen if connected to the other terminal of the cut wire.
Left the mute wire from radio disconnected, do I need to splice this in??

Red from radio is connected to pin 30 of the relay? This gives you the ignition On input that is normally supplied by the BCM to the factory radio.
Yep, getting power just fine now, nav works but no sound.
Need coffe to think....

Yes need more coffee.....coffee is good....

[Lucifer]

Originally Posted by f5fstop

Spee signal, Dark Green/white it was in terminal E of the small connector that attaches to the radio?
There are a couple dark green/white wires...

Without XM, I only had 1 green/white wire, sure was happy when it worked.

[BuzzH3]

Originally Posted by Lucifer

Spent 8 hours installing a Z1 to only run into a problem at the end Tapped the brown wire in the drivers pillar for the reverse wire. Got lucky and the VSS wire was in my radio harness Used a Metra GMOS04 wire harness because it has the Onstar and chimes built into 1 unit and you can control the volume of the chimes, (turned way down). Also had to loop the 2 purple wires in the gm harness. Only problem now is that when the key is in accessory mode, I don't hear any music from the stereo, but Onstar still works. As soon as I open the door and the door chime starts ringing, the music from the stereo comes through. As soon as I shut the door, no more music. With the key turned to on, I don't get anything even with the door opened, but again Onstar still works. I'm going to call Metra in the morning, but was just curios if anyone has any ideas on this. Checked wiring 4 times, and all seems correct. Pretty strange if you ask me.

Did you have the Monsoon system? If so, it sounds like the amp turnon is not connected or connected to the wrong place. Make sure that you have the remote amp lead from the Z1 connected to the amp turnon lead from the harness.

[Lucifer]

Originally Posted by f5fstop

If you turn on your headlights, does the radio operate? I'm going to be curious as to what Metra says about this. I'm installing one next week myself, using the Peripheral adapters .

In accessory, radio plays with lights as long as door is open. Once door is shut, it looks like it should be playing with lights on. Don't know if this helps much.

[Lucifer]

Originally Posted by f5fstop

Did you reset the Z1 after install??

Yep, no help.

Originally Posted by f5fstop

I give up, without the wiring schematic for the Metra adapters, which I can't find online anywhere, it is hard to determine how it connects.

Ya, I couldn't find a wirning schematic for it either, just going to call Metra.

[Lucifer]

Originally Posted by BuzzH3

Did you have the Monsoon system? If so, it sounds like the amp turnon is not connected or connected to the wrong place. Make sure that you have the remote amp lead from the Z1 connected to the amp turnon lead from the harness.

DOHHHHHH!!!
The label on the z1 was labeled system connect, didn't think the amp power was connected to it. Everything works fine now. At least I didn't have to call Metra tech support, hate tech support.

THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

now I just have to go find one of those silly antenna adapters...