Headers.. Are they worth it?

[harbinger225]

Has anybody tried "TOG" headers? Are they really worth the price? They look to be good and all, but I just don't know if I can stomach the price.

http://www.performance-exhaust-heade...h2-600222.html

Also, is the ceramic coating something you guys would recommend?

[harbinger225]

Has anybody tried "TOG" headers? Are they really worth the price? They look to be good and all, but I just don't know if I can stomach the price.

http://www.performance-exhaust-heade...h2-600222.html

Also, is the ceramic coating something you guys would recommend?

[HUMMERcustoms.com/TAZ]

You can do a search on headers and one on coated headers and get info. I have never even been near TOG headers.
I use the complete Dynatech stainless system from front (headers) to back, catback system, and stanless exhaust with monitor next. Need tough stuff. I will most likely have My computer and all audio and video equipment installed for SEMA. I had the complete dual exhaust systems jet coated inside and outside of header reducing the heat in engine bay as been great.

TAZ

[W1N]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HUMMERcustoms.com/TAZ:
You can do a search on headers and one on coated headers and get info. I have never even been near TOG headers.
I use the complete Dynatech stainless system from front (headers) to back, catback system, and stanless exhaust with monitor next. Need tough stuff. I will most likely have My computer and all audio and video equipment installed for SEMA. I had the complete dual exhaust systems jet coated inside and outside of header reducing the heat in engine bay as been great.

TAZ </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hey TAZ,

Have you ever seen or heard about exhaust for H2 that is similiar to for example MB S500. Invisible like the stock H2 exhaust (behind the rear bumper), but exits on both sides. Would it be difficult to have one custom built?

Thanks!

[Fastest H-Town Realtor]

I raise the BS flag on a "10-15%" power increase on any shorty/mid length header. A full length header would have trouble making 30-45HP more than stock on a stock engine.

[HGW]

And with the shorties, the Hp gain is at the high end where you would rarely run your engine.

The HP gain is total BS.

[HUMMERcustoms.com/TAZ]

I have not seen one but, it would not be hard to have an exhaust shop to do it. Again as i always say go to a performance exhaust shop and not a muffler shop. Muffler shops do great work most all the time on stock daily drivers. But, if You working on perf. and running forced induction then go to a perf. exhaust. They will understand and go the extra without You saying anything. Most have mandrel bending machines to get smoother flow in exhaust.
Shorty headers for torque in high
RPM's.
Long headers for more torque on the low end. That is what the H2 needs to get it rolling quicker.
Headers are worth it especially in forced induction because if you are going to push more air into the engine it has to have the ability to get rid of it and that includes all the way out the end of tailpipe. I am in fact this winter going to a se of LPE high flow heads that they do not sell on site or tell about. you just have to ask. They are high bt, On My rig the heads are a bottle neck so i have to do something and the nice thing is the LPE do not raise compression any. tat is waht You want a head to do with forced indction as High compression is an enemy of forced induction. High compression is for naturally aspirated systems and that is how with cams etc. they get those huge numbers on HP and Torque.
Would be a disagreement in a group of 20 gear heads tosay which is best. I know i like the forced because if You wan to go bakc it is allot easier to do it. But, it is also easier to get the power on as it is all external.
So in My humble oppinion is that headers are a good thing any time.

Befor I put on SC I ran headers tuning intake all the perf. i could without forced induction and i ran 350 HP at the ground. It was checked with a G-Tech Pro with 10 runs and high and low tossed out and averaged the rest which is more than gtech recommends but, i wanted a larger set of numbers to be more accurate. G-Tech now is as good as most anything you can use as most NASCAR teams have gone to them and guit buying that $10,000 unit I forget the name of it. they found the G-Tech was just as acurate. When I ran numbers I called G-Tech support telling the guy this cannot be true. Tech said believe what it says as it has been proven if used as direction tell you. He said do not be afraid to trust it. It will be in a close tolerance of a dyno.
We are waiting to get the newest G-tech so I'm anxious to see what it does now with SC and good tuning.
Run headers.

Guys I'm full of crap today so if you want an answer and I have or can get it i will. Ask away.

TAZ

[tomp]

I would like to have a set of these for the H2: http://www.gibsonexhaust.com/

To bad they don't make them for it.

[harbinger225]

So these are basically not worth it then? No problem. I'm glad you guys saved me the hassle (and the $$$!!!)

[tomp]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Long headers for more torque on the low end. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Anyone got a link for "long headers" for the H2? I am interested in them if they will add to the low-end (torque).

[HUMMERcustoms.com/TAZ]

Most companies offer both styles. You just have to ask and price. Plus see what everyone likes.
I'm in a minority I guess as I appear to be one of the few who run Dynatech long neck headers with their catback system. I had a true dual added removing the X pipe. Complete including out the back over the axle ended up being around $1600. BUt, I just also added the jet coating sterling which looks chromed on the complete exhaust but headers were coated inside and out to reduce the heat in engine bay. So I love the dynatech and so far have not found anything bad written about them. Before SC i felt an instant seat of the pants increase with the exhaust setup i put on. I must say also that i did not go out and reseaarch real hard ut, talked to several custom race shops and tuner parts shops etc. people that hear what is said all the time and everyone recommended the Dynatech. You may be able to get them for less if you do not go stainless and instead spend that extra saving if much on having them jet coated or HPC coated.

TAZ