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Old 12-18-2004, 06:09 AM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by devilsfan:
I am seriously interested in your knowledge of the current automotive market and how it fits the needs of consumers. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well, to cut to the chase, I don't know jack about SUVs. I couldn't tell a Durango from a Dingo.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Challenge: find me a vehicle that meets YOUR approval and the following criteria (and gets good gas mileage, according to your standards) and I will be happy to look into it - seriously: <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You win that one, I guess. But my point is that when you add this criterion, the only way to make it work is to change priorites:

1. Is envronmentally friendly: Gets at least 25mpg, and has the same emission rating as current PCs (passenger cars).

Obviously right now there is no such vehicle. So if I were in your situation, I would have to adjust my priorites, and to me the envronmental concerns are higher. And in that case I would just be SOL and asking myself, "why did I get two humongous dogs without thinking about how to transport them?" But your priorities are apparently different.

Maybe, you would like a perfectly comfortable life for yourself first. I would like rather a better world for my and your kids, where they're free of dependence on foreign oil (and the wars over it), free to walk and bike and drive the streets safely without the constant threat of humungous vehicles all around them, and of course free to breath clean air.

I have a feeling you're really not as selfish as all that, but that you didn't factor in your other priorites when you chose your SUV.

But By taking steps like increasing average milage to 25-30 mpg, we could save close to the amount of oil we export from the Persian Gulf.

More info:

http://www.hybridcars.com/oil.html

The reason cars like this don't yet exist is because not enough people are demanding them. Instead, they buy the exact opposite and the car companies will make whatever will sell.

Fortunately, it looks like at least Hummer sales are dropping, a signal that people are catching on. Hybrid SUVs look good too...

Also, lest you think I'm being too harsh by suggesting you sacrifice keeping dogs, I wonder what some of you might think at seeing a wellfare mother of 7 asking for more "handouts".
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Old 12-18-2004, 06:29 AM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by HUMMERDOGG:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Arnold McBain:
Right, we should all mind our own business.

Still, this is the only defense I've heard (also from sfox above), that you guys just don't care about what people think and that you have the right to drive whatever you want. And I'll agree to both the points.

But tell me why Hummers, and other city-driven SUVs aren't wasteful of limited resources, namely the fossil fuel over which we're fighting a war and losing soldiers?

What is your answer other than "just shut the **** up you jealous moron"? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
You are correct in stating that the supply of oil and gasoline derived from fossil fuels is being depleted, however you really need to start reading the news and recognize that ethanol derived from corn and biodiesel and biogasoline derived from waste vegetable oil, animal and plant byproducts is making a huge push to replace them. So I wouldn't worry too much about replacing our depleting fossil fuels. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, good point. I'm well aware of the existance of alternative fuels, yet I wouldn't call it quite a "push". Considering that we're asking to convert on such a large scale, government research and funding is scant (and I wonder why?)

I think this is a really, really encouraging report, though, if you haven't seen it:

<A HREF="http://www.unh.edu/p2/biodiesel/article_alge.html" TARGET=_blank>www.unh.edu/p2/biodiesel/article_alge.html*
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Nevertheless, even if we were able to convert completely, it'd still be wrong to waste.

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With regards to our troops dying over Iraqi oil. You would have to believe that we went to war over oil as opposed to trying to remove a dictator and liberate a country. That's actually your opinion and you would have to take that up with W... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, you're right. Unfortunately with the lies and maneuvering dubya's done over the war, no one can ever be sure why the hell we went. The facts to me, however, point to oil and the oil economy. There are a few good links at my site, if you're willing:

post 64 at http://hummerssuck.com/gb/guestbook.php
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by HUMMERDOGG:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Arnold McBain:
Right, we should all mind our own business.

Still, this is the only defense I've heard (also from sfox above), that you guys just don't care about what people think and that you have the right to drive whatever you want. And I'll agree to both the points.

But tell me why Hummers, and other city-driven SUVs aren't wasteful of limited resources, namely the fossil fuel over which we're fighting a war and losing soldiers?

What is your answer other than "just shut the **** up you jealous moron"? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
You are correct in stating that the supply of oil and gasoline derived from fossil fuels is being depleted, however you really need to start reading the news and recognize that ethanol derived from corn and biodiesel and biogasoline derived from waste vegetable oil, animal and plant byproducts is making a huge push to replace them. So I wouldn't worry too much about replacing our depleting fossil fuels. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, good point. I'm well aware of the existance of alternative fuels, yet I wouldn't call it quite a "push". Considering that we're asking to convert on such a large scale, government research and funding is scant (and I wonder why?)

I think this is a really, really encouraging report, though, if you haven't seen it:

<A HREF="http://www.unh.edu/p2/biodiesel/article_alge.html" TARGET=_blank>www.unh.edu/p2/biodiesel/article_alge.html*
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Nevertheless, even if we were able to convert completely, it'd still be wrong to waste.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
With regards to our troops dying over Iraqi oil. You would have to believe that we went to war over oil as opposed to trying to remove a dictator and liberate a country. That's actually your opinion and you would have to take that up with W... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, you're right. Unfortunately with the lies and maneuvering dubya's done over the war, no one can ever be sure why the hell we went. The facts to me, however, point to oil and the oil economy. There are a few good links at my site, if you're willing:

post 64 at http://hummerssuck.com/gb/guestbook.php
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Old 12-18-2004, 06:46 AM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by sfox:
I have a site for you to troll http://www.pirate4x4.com they love libbies like you, they often get worse gas mileage than us and they like to run over innocent bunnies withtheir 40 inch tires, you should really pay them a visit (btw, there are way more of them and they don't even get emmisions tests done on their trail rigs).
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Oh man, sounds scary. What, do they use like ALL CAPS over there...?
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by sfox:
I have a site for you to troll http://www.pirate4x4.com they love libbies like you, they often get worse gas mileage than us and they like to run over innocent bunnies withtheir 40 inch tires, you should really pay them a visit (btw, there are way more of them and they don't even get emmisions tests done on their trail rigs).
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Oh man, sounds scary. What, do they use like ALL CAPS over there...?
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From what I acquired on Arnold, he feels he is doing society some justice by admonishing those of us who drive the H2. What he does not understand is that, he is in the minority. Not just on this site, but in life. Society is the evil doer, and he is the prophecy. Well Arnold, you are lacking the wherewithal to understand the art of persuation. Thus, making you a hypocrite. If you truly wanted a change in society, your tactics would not be that of slander, but those of salvation. Please enlighten me as to how you would change society? I feel you should read the book 1984.
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From what I acquired on Arnold, he feels he is doing society some justice by admonishing those of us who drive the H2. What he does not understand is that, he is in the minority. Not just on this site, but in life. Society is the evil doer, and he is the prophecy. Well Arnold, you are lacking the wherewithal to understand the art of persuation. Thus, making you a hypocrite. If you truly wanted a change in society, your tactics would not be that of slander, but those of salvation. Please enlighten me as to how you would change society? I feel you should read the book 1984.
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Arnie, you right. How could I have been so blind! I will sell my H2 today. But I'm going to have to keep my 35' offshore power boat.

BTW, It has twin 502 big blocks and burns a hell of a lot more gas than the H2 ever could.

Hey, there's an idea, why don't you go bother the people over at www.Offshoreonly.com. Lot's of fossil fuel being wasted over there.

Thanks for showing me the way. (Moron)
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Arnie, you right. How could I have been so blind! I will sell my H2 today. But I'm going to have to keep my 35' offshore power boat.

BTW, It has twin 502 big blocks and burns a hell of a lot more gas than the H2 ever could.

Hey, there's an idea, why don't you go bother the people over at www.Offshoreonly.com. Lot's of fossil fuel being wasted over there.

Thanks for showing me the way. (Moron)
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Old 12-19-2004, 05:54 AM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PARAGON:
First, Arnie. To debate one must have validity. You don't, since you took great care to lie about yourself. Second, this vain attempt to get people to rush over and up the hits on your site is about as lame as the drivel you like to think of as your intelligent thoughts.

You made the point to come to this site full of H2 owners who discuss their varying ownership of the said vehicle only to stir things up. Then you want to pretend to be an active part of the citizenry by making up crap about being married, with kids blah blah blah.

Yeah, you have admitted that you wish you had the powers of the Jedi. Looks stupid when someone else puts it in print. You see, the thing is, when self-serving little children like you that try to pretend to be all grown uppy and want to take a position in life that they know will be controversial can't help but spread their words all over the internet. Just like you have done.

You even go so far as to expound on the comments made by others just so you can letter out what you think we all will think is intellectual bliss. I don't remember anyone on here saying that "foreign economies (are) harming America and American jobs." <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You must have missed this:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BIGT:

posted 12-16-04 05:38 AM

A 1988 Honda? Not even an American car. A Jap piece of ****? And an old one at that! What kind of commie are you? That import dumps out more toxins’s than new H2 does. Why not by a Saturn or something more eco-acceptable? Now why don't you tell me what you do for our wonderful world and how many people you employ and provide a living for? Or should I assume that our country provides for your feeble existence? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Then to further your ego up the scale, you want to feign supposed threats against you from this forum. You are just too smart for us, aren't you. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not sure how that would "further my ego", but anyway do tell why these wouldn't qualify as "veiled" threats?

First, this rib bustin' classic by DRTYFN (hey, that name could get some hot action in SF.)

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
the only way to get an idea into your head is with actual blunt force trauma. And while that is an appealing idea the possible consequences far outweigh any pleasure I might derive from bludgeoning you. Oh yeah, and pissing all over you... after I've eaten a couple pounds of asparagus. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Then his less subtle:

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It shouldn't be too tough to track down someone with the last name of McBain/Stubtoe.

Would you like some help? Should we send the info to you on Turner Court? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PARAGON:
Then it's the biggest f***ing thing that sticks out. You got so caught up in all of your own bull**** that you said you now had "to go read to your kids." Just a stupid amatuer mistake or did you simply forget what time it was when you typed that? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Now I'm a little worried about you, Paragon, and I offered to keep this private to spare your feelings, but this all so damn hilarious I just can't help myself.

First, like a stalker, you waited for me to show up on the site and then posted that "I just couldn't wait to answer the thread", suggesting that I have obsessive tendencies, when it was an obvious projection of your own state of mind, and just a little bit freaky...

Next, as I figured out in 5 seconds by googling that Jedi quote, you found on some other bulletin board a posting by a "McBain" (here), and somehow became convinced that that was me. Then you posted all those great haikus of yours from what that guy said.

Just to clue you in, "McBain" is the name of a character in the Simpsons, and there could be hundreds of people going by that name on the Internet. Now this is the scary part: it's possible you had to go through hundreds of google hits (and hours of time?) to come up with that one page. Suffice to say, that dude ain't me. That you're so convinced (and still are, I'm sure) that it is me with such lack of evidence, demonstrates so obviously your state of mind.

But, thanks to your great idea, I now know a bit more about you. It only took another 10 seconds to google "paragon redneck" and bingo! Hit 6:

Rotten Tomatoes Forums - Guys Only Thread!

Orlando Bloom fan, eh? Man, my wife is so into that guy too...

I was truly amazed, however, by your brain-twisting deduction that I'm a fraud. Now, did you ever think about what time it might have been when I typed that about my kids? Likely different than when I posted it, since it was a rather long posting. I admit, you could have a valid point somewhere in there, but to deduce from that evidence alone that I'm a fraud is delusional. Please realize too, that there are families like mine all over the country different from yours, where kids sometimes go to bed after 7:30 or 8, sometimes even later! That you might not have even considered this is still more evidence of your own obsessive tunnel-mindedness.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Even better, go talk with your freethinking brethren and talk about your heros of the past who were supposed freethinkers and discuss how there is no proof of a God, that you have the answers and that is that there are no answers. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You want to get into this? Start a thread in the off topic forum, and I'm there. Or in private even. Just remember you were first here with an offensive remark regarding belief/nonbelief.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>So, please, don't flatter yourself thinking that you are anymore than a ball of yarn being played with by a bunch of neurotic house cats OD'd on catnip. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PARAGON:
First, Arnie. To debate one must have validity. You don't, since you took great care to lie about yourself. Second, this vain attempt to get people to rush over and up the hits on your site is about as lame as the drivel you like to think of as your intelligent thoughts.

You made the point to come to this site full of H2 owners who discuss their varying ownership of the said vehicle only to stir things up. Then you want to pretend to be an active part of the citizenry by making up crap about being married, with kids blah blah blah.

Yeah, you have admitted that you wish you had the powers of the Jedi. Looks stupid when someone else puts it in print. You see, the thing is, when self-serving little children like you that try to pretend to be all grown uppy and want to take a position in life that they know will be controversial can't help but spread their words all over the internet. Just like you have done.

You even go so far as to expound on the comments made by others just so you can letter out what you think we all will think is intellectual bliss. I don't remember anyone on here saying that "foreign economies (are) harming America and American jobs." <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You must have missed this:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BIGT:

posted 12-16-04 05:38 AM

A 1988 Honda? Not even an American car. A Jap piece of ****? And an old one at that! What kind of commie are you? That import dumps out more toxins’s than new H2 does. Why not by a Saturn or something more eco-acceptable? Now why don't you tell me what you do for our wonderful world and how many people you employ and provide a living for? Or should I assume that our country provides for your feeble existence? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Then to further your ego up the scale, you want to feign supposed threats against you from this forum. You are just too smart for us, aren't you. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not sure how that would "further my ego", but anyway do tell why these wouldn't qualify as "veiled" threats?

First, this rib bustin' classic by DRTYFN (hey, that name could get some hot action in SF.)

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
the only way to get an idea into your head is with actual blunt force trauma. And while that is an appealing idea the possible consequences far outweigh any pleasure I might derive from bludgeoning you. Oh yeah, and pissing all over you... after I've eaten a couple pounds of asparagus. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Then his less subtle:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
It shouldn't be too tough to track down someone with the last name of McBain/Stubtoe.

Would you like some help? Should we send the info to you on Turner Court? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PARAGON:
Then it's the biggest f***ing thing that sticks out. You got so caught up in all of your own bull**** that you said you now had "to go read to your kids." Just a stupid amatuer mistake or did you simply forget what time it was when you typed that? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Now I'm a little worried about you, Paragon, and I offered to keep this private to spare your feelings, but this all so damn hilarious I just can't help myself.

First, like a stalker, you waited for me to show up on the site and then posted that "I just couldn't wait to answer the thread", suggesting that I have obsessive tendencies, when it was an obvious projection of your own state of mind, and just a little bit freaky...

Next, as I figured out in 5 seconds by googling that Jedi quote, you found on some other bulletin board a posting by a "McBain" (here), and somehow became convinced that that was me. Then you posted all those great haikus of yours from what that guy said.

Just to clue you in, "McBain" is the name of a character in the Simpsons, and there could be hundreds of people going by that name on the Internet. Now this is the scary part: it's possible you had to go through hundreds of google hits (and hours of time?) to come up with that one page. Suffice to say, that dude ain't me. That you're so convinced (and still are, I'm sure) that it is me with such lack of evidence, demonstrates so obviously your state of mind.

But, thanks to your great idea, I now know a bit more about you. It only took another 10 seconds to google "paragon redneck" and bingo! Hit 6:

Rotten Tomatoes Forums - Guys Only Thread!

Orlando Bloom fan, eh? Man, my wife is so into that guy too...

I was truly amazed, however, by your brain-twisting deduction that I'm a fraud. Now, did you ever think about what time it might have been when I typed that about my kids? Likely different than when I posted it, since it was a rather long posting. I admit, you could have a valid point somewhere in there, but to deduce from that evidence alone that I'm a fraud is delusional. Please realize too, that there are families like mine all over the country different from yours, where kids sometimes go to bed after 7:30 or 8, sometimes even later! That you might not have even considered this is still more evidence of your own obsessive tunnel-mindedness.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Even better, go talk with your freethinking brethren and talk about your heros of the past who were supposed freethinkers and discuss how there is no proof of a God, that you have the answers and that is that there are no answers. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You want to get into this? Start a thread in the off topic forum, and I'm there. Or in private even. Just remember you were first here with an offensive remark regarding belief/nonbelief.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>So, please, don't flatter yourself thinking that you are anymore than a ball of yarn being played with by a bunch of neurotic house cats OD'd on catnip. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah, you're a pussy all right :-)
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Arnie,

Please excuse me for giving you more credit than what you are worth. Damn, you had to copy and paste your PM comment to me and couldn't come up with an original post.

Point out again exactly how the comment "not even an American car" equates to "foreign economies (are) harming America and American jobs." Just stupid, plain stupid.

As far as your ego, you are not sure of anything, I'll grant you that. But you want to project some idea that anyone cares enough about your miniscule existence that they would actually make a threat. Again your wonderful power of extrapolation has molded a very simple comment into one being about you. I realize information, especially confirmed logical information, would be a threat to you, but remember you are speaking to a community of people and must use their mores if you want to be understood. Someone saying they would like to piss on you after bludgeoning an idea into your head really doesn't constitue a threat, veiled or otherwise, except in your own narcissistic world.

I "waited for you to show up on the site," riiigght. More of your obsessive narcissism at work. How in the hell would I know you were going to show, no, no.....let me think.....just like every other neurotic psycho, you have a pattern. Yours is just much more distinct than others. It's this pattern that gives you away and you can't do **** about it because you have flung it all over the internet.

Also, please understand how the human being works, one of which you barely seem to be. They overcompensate when trying to hide something. Otherwise they do not try to go into great detail to overexplain something that is true. It's only when they are caught in lies and half-truths do they resort to the stupidity of typing a bunch of mumbo-jumbo to explain away their actions.

So, it took you 5 seconds to google the Jedi quote, but you turn around and, again narcissistically reply, that I must be obsessed with your almightiness by right after replying "it's possible you had to go through hundreds of google hits." Cool, you are such the hardcore internet guru that it took you 5 seconds to find your quote (by the way that is not the only place you made the jedi comment) but I had to search through pages and pages to find the same thing. Hmmm!

As far as your minority, freethinking, bassackward, dumbass thoughts. No, my tinkerbell of a friend, you just had to come out in one of your first posts that you are an athiest. So, I didn't start it, nanna nanna boo boo.

Start a thread in the off topic? Are you so cement-headed that you don't realize no one here cares about your thoughts and/or comments. You are the one posting in a Hummer owners' forum. How absolutely blind are you going to continue to be.

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I'll agree not to post this email to the list, if you agree to just chill out a bit. Maybe even admit that you were mistaken. That way, we'll both feel a little better. On the other hand, it's fine with me to if you would rather not, since you would then be giving me the OK to have fun with you guilt-free. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Is the previous post you having fun. You talked more about you than you did me. Be careful of the games you play, it's not just your stupid website that is being watched. This is not a threat, it's an honest warning. Anonymity on the internet is a farce. So stay around, play some more and things will just get funnier and funnier. Only idiots run around posting in forums that they have no business being apart of.

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Yeah, you're a pussy all right :-) <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Is that a threat!
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Arnie,

Please excuse me for giving you more credit than what you are worth. Damn, you had to copy and paste your PM comment to me and couldn't come up with an original post.

Point out again exactly how the comment "not even an American car" equates to "foreign economies (are) harming America and American jobs." Just stupid, plain stupid.

As far as your ego, you are not sure of anything, I'll grant you that. But you want to project some idea that anyone cares enough about your miniscule existence that they would actually make a threat. Again your wonderful power of extrapolation has molded a very simple comment into one being about you. I realize information, especially confirmed logical information, would be a threat to you, but remember you are speaking to a community of people and must use their mores if you want to be understood. Someone saying they would like to piss on you after bludgeoning an idea into your head really doesn't constitue a threat, veiled or otherwise, except in your own narcissistic world.

I "waited for you to show up on the site," riiigght. More of your obsessive narcissism at work. How in the hell would I know you were going to show, no, no.....let me think.....just like every other neurotic psycho, you have a pattern. Yours is just much more distinct than others. It's this pattern that gives you away and you can't do **** about it because you have flung it all over the internet.

Also, please understand how the human being works, one of which you barely seem to be. They overcompensate when trying to hide something. Otherwise they do not try to go into great detail to overexplain something that is true. It's only when they are caught in lies and half-truths do they resort to the stupidity of typing a bunch of mumbo-jumbo to explain away their actions.

So, it took you 5 seconds to google the Jedi quote, but you turn around and, again narcissistically reply, that I must be obsessed with your almightiness by right after replying "it's possible you had to go through hundreds of google hits." Cool, you are such the hardcore internet guru that it took you 5 seconds to find your quote (by the way that is not the only place you made the jedi comment) but I had to search through pages and pages to find the same thing. Hmmm!

As far as your minority, freethinking, bassackward, dumbass thoughts. No, my tinkerbell of a friend, you just had to come out in one of your first posts that you are an athiest. So, I didn't start it, nanna nanna boo boo.

Start a thread in the off topic? Are you so cement-headed that you don't realize no one here cares about your thoughts and/or comments. You are the one posting in a Hummer owners' forum. How absolutely blind are you going to continue to be.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>from blunderhead's private offer:
I'll agree not to post this email to the list, if you agree to just chill out a bit. Maybe even admit that you were mistaken. That way, we'll both feel a little better. On the other hand, it's fine with me to if you would rather not, since you would then be giving me the OK to have fun with you guilt-free. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Is the previous post you having fun. You talked more about you than you did me. Be careful of the games you play, it's not just your stupid website that is being watched. This is not a threat, it's an honest warning. Anonymity on the internet is a farce. So stay around, play some more and things will just get funnier and funnier. Only idiots run around posting in forums that they have no business being apart of.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Posted by the dumbass:
Yeah, you're a pussy all right :-) <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Is that a threat!
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Arnold McBain:
Not sure how that would "further my ego", but anyway do tell why these wouldn't qualify as "veiled" threats?

First, this rib bustin' classic by DRTYFN (hey, that name could get some hot action in SF.)

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the only way to get an idea into your head is with actual blunt force trauma. And while that is an appealing idea the possible consequences far outweigh any pleasure I might derive from bludgeoning you. Oh yeah, and pissing all over you... after I've eaten a couple pounds of asparagus. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Then his less subtle:

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It shouldn't be too tough to track down someone with the last name of McBain/Stubtoe.

Would you like some help? Should we send the info to you on Turner Court? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

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You WISH someone would make some threats towards you so you could call the police and tattle. That would make you feel so much better about your pathetic existence.

Sorry we didn't catch the obscure reference to the Simpsons, If you would have chosen Crusty it might have been a little more obvious. I did drop a couple of not so subtle hints that your real identity is known. Not that it matters. Looking you up rates right up there with looking in the toilet to see if there's any corn or peanuts in my dump- mildly entertaining, but I'm still just going to flush it away. You on the other hand, would probably indulge in your feces fetish and have a bite. But, you are the sick pud, anyway.
Anthony, I've noticed that you usually post late at night. Just getting off the swing shift at the 7/11? That would explain the '88 Honda and the poor attitude towards folks that have more than you do.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Arnold McBain:
Not sure how that would "further my ego", but anyway do tell why these wouldn't qualify as "veiled" threats?

First, this rib bustin' classic by DRTYFN (hey, that name could get some hot action in SF.)

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
the only way to get an idea into your head is with actual blunt force trauma. And while that is an appealing idea the possible consequences far outweigh any pleasure I might derive from bludgeoning you. Oh yeah, and pissing all over you... after I've eaten a couple pounds of asparagus. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Then his less subtle:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
It shouldn't be too tough to track down someone with the last name of McBain/Stubtoe.

Would you like some help? Should we send the info to you on Turner Court? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You WISH someone would make some threats towards you so you could call the police and tattle. That would make you feel so much better about your pathetic existence.

Sorry we didn't catch the obscure reference to the Simpsons, If you would have chosen Crusty it might have been a little more obvious. I did drop a couple of not so subtle hints that your real identity is known. Not that it matters. Looking you up rates right up there with looking in the toilet to see if there's any corn or peanuts in my dump- mildly entertaining, but I'm still just going to flush it away. You on the other hand, would probably indulge in your feces fetish and have a bite. But, you are the sick pud, anyway.
Anthony, I've noticed that you usually post late at night. Just getting off the swing shift at the 7/11? That would explain the '88 Honda and the poor attitude towards folks that have more than you do.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Arnold McBain:

Yes, good point. I'm well aware of the existance of alternative fuels, yet I wouldn't call it quite a "push". Considering that we're asking to convert on such a large scale, government research and funding is scant (and I wonder why?) <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I would beg to differ regarding the "push" and government "funding". Please refer to the article below which elaborates upon the tax incentive credit that W just signed into law for biodiesel.

http://www.biodiesel.org/news/taxincentive/

This is a hell of a move in the right direction. What it'll mean is increased prices paid for soybean and rapeseed oil which will help support American farmers. It'll also increase yellow grease use for biodiesel. This will hopefully keep yellow grease from ending up in our dumps. It also encourages biodiesel production buildout which will hopefully help bring down the costs and make it more appealing for the masses.

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Nevertheless, even if we were able to convert completely, it'd still be wrong to waste. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I really disagree with that statement since it is directed towards us H2 owners. Hell, I drive mine a total of 20 miles a day when I'm not taking it up to the ranch on the weekends. What's truly funny is that my H2 gets better gas mileage than my wife's Infinity QX4 did. I'm suprise you haven't gone after Nissan for importing fuel inefficient suv's into the US. At least American workers are getting paid to build the H2. You ever seen the gas mileage numbers for a Ford Excursion/Superduty with the V10? That's the owners you should be attacking there.

Anyways, I really think you shold re-gear your attack though. You should really start looking in the direction of our mass transit systems, recreational boating, commercial shipping, military, etc... Why should the american people who drive H2's be the one's under attack from you? We would all be better off if UPS, FEDEX, DHL, AMTRAK, CTX, Burlington Northern, American Airlines, Continental, etc..... would all switch to alternative fuels. I don't understand why people like you don't wage your war against publicy traded companies who are "wasteful".

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With regards to our troops dying over Iraqi oil. You would have to believe that we went to war over oil as opposed to trying to remove a dictator and liberate a country. That's actually your opinion and you would have to take that up with W...

Yes, you're right. Unfortunately with the lies and maneuvering dubya's done over the war, no one can ever be sure why the hell we went. The facts to me, however, point to oil and the oil economy. There are a few good links at my site, if you're willing:

post 64 at http://hummerssuck.com/gb/guestbook.php <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I would rather not visit your site but do appreciate you making an effort to be heard. Hell, it's what America was founded upon. I am just disappointed that you choose to attack H2 owners when there are so many others out there who are better candidates.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Arnold McBain:

Yes, good point. I'm well aware of the existance of alternative fuels, yet I wouldn't call it quite a "push". Considering that we're asking to convert on such a large scale, government research and funding is scant (and I wonder why?) <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I would beg to differ regarding the "push" and government "funding". Please refer to the article below which elaborates upon the tax incentive credit that W just signed into law for biodiesel.

http://www.biodiesel.org/news/taxincentive/

This is a hell of a move in the right direction. What it'll mean is increased prices paid for soybean and rapeseed oil which will help support American farmers. It'll also increase yellow grease use for biodiesel. This will hopefully keep yellow grease from ending up in our dumps. It also encourages biodiesel production buildout which will hopefully help bring down the costs and make it more appealing for the masses.

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Nevertheless, even if we were able to convert completely, it'd still be wrong to waste. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I really disagree with that statement since it is directed towards us H2 owners. Hell, I drive mine a total of 20 miles a day when I'm not taking it up to the ranch on the weekends. What's truly funny is that my H2 gets better gas mileage than my wife's Infinity QX4 did. I'm suprise you haven't gone after Nissan for importing fuel inefficient suv's into the US. At least American workers are getting paid to build the H2. You ever seen the gas mileage numbers for a Ford Excursion/Superduty with the V10? That's the owners you should be attacking there.

Anyways, I really think you shold re-gear your attack though. You should really start looking in the direction of our mass transit systems, recreational boating, commercial shipping, military, etc... Why should the american people who drive H2's be the one's under attack from you? We would all be better off if UPS, FEDEX, DHL, AMTRAK, CTX, Burlington Northern, American Airlines, Continental, etc..... would all switch to alternative fuels. I don't understand why people like you don't wage your war against publicy traded companies who are "wasteful".

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With regards to our troops dying over Iraqi oil. You would have to believe that we went to war over oil as opposed to trying to remove a dictator and liberate a country. That's actually your opinion and you would have to take that up with W...

Yes, you're right. Unfortunately with the lies and maneuvering dubya's done over the war, no one can ever be sure why the hell we went. The facts to me, however, point to oil and the oil economy. There are a few good links at my site, if you're willing:

post 64 at http://hummerssuck.com/gb/guestbook.php <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I would rather not visit your site but do appreciate you making an effort to be heard. Hell, it's what America was founded upon. I am just disappointed that you choose to attack H2 owners when there are so many others out there who are better candidates.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by HUMMERDOGG:
What's truly funny is that my H2 gets better gas mileage than my wife's Infinity QX4 did. I'm suprise you haven't gone after Nissan for importing fuel inefficient suv's into the US.

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

B I N G O!!!!(was his name-o)
The reason the wackos and malcontents don't go after any of the other rigs is because it would take brain power(and we know they're seriously deficient in that area) to actually do the research to find out how many vehicles suck down gas faster than the H2. And there's plenty of them out there. But the real reason, and it's something I've been saying since they started this crap, is that the H2 is the most easily recognizable vehicle on the road. Why would they want to actually get their facts straight and present a valid argument when all they have to do is run on misguided emotion and disinformation? ****, the Kerry/Edwards campaign did it- why can't they?
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