Tie Rod

[Hunner]

Originally Posted by Huck BB62

Just drill and tap it for a zerk. No big deal.

Well if it had a groove around the edge inside to capture some grease it would. The ones I looked at today if you did that it would just ooze out where the zerk was. Nothing to contain it. Have you had success doing that in an offroad environment??

[Hunner]

Something might be fabbed up using these. Interesting little clip.

http://www.currieenterprises.com/ces...nnyjoints.aspx

Everybody throw out ideas or places you know somebody that actually makes things. Im working on my network of talented friends.

[Desert Dan]

Are the later model OEM tie rods larger diameter and stronger?
Have more people broken the earlier tie rods?
Maybe we can upgrade to the later tie rods?

Could a simple clamp-on reinforcment sleeve be fabricated?
That way you wouldn't need to un-bolt anything or re-align the front end



What does the Alpha sterring system look like? Would that system work on the older H3s

[Sewie]

Originally Posted by Hunner

Are the ones that have broken been hit or is it spinning tires and then getting traction breaking them??

That's usually it.

[Sewie]

Originally Posted by Desert Dan

Are the later model OEM tie rods larger diameter and stronger? They are a different size, but I believe it is only the threaded stud where it attaches to the rack. So no, they are not stronger.
Have more people broken the earlier tie rods? Shouldn't matter.
Maybe we can upgrade to the later tie rods? They're basically the same.

What does the Alpha sterring system look like? Would that system work on the older H3s

I doubt they've beefed up the steering at all for the Alpha. We're stuck waiting for someone to come up with something aftermarket.

[inked]

Originally Posted by HummBebe

HONOLULU,
HI, US 04/24/2007 8:21 A.M. OUT FOR DELIVERY

Yo HummBebe - GOT IT!! Installed it lastnight and now it's back to the trails!! I owe you a ROD!! I checked with the dealership and I should find out today when the damn thing will be in, once I get it I will FEDEX it back to you.

Thanks again!! As for coolnest - you get

[HummBebe]

YAY!!!!

[inked]

Originally Posted by HummBebe

YAY!!!!

Still not in yet, just sent you an email. Spoke with the dealership on Wednesday and not in yet. Will try calling again today.

Thanks again!!

[f5fstop]

Originally Posted by Desert Dan

Are the later model OEM tie rods larger diameter and stronger? (Yes, 16mm versus 14mm. Different part numbers so chances are you cannot update to the larger if the vehicle has the smaller rods. If they allowed the 16mm to replace a 14mm, they would have purged the 14mm out of service parts. However, another reason to not purge the parts could be that you would have to replace both inner and outer with the 16mm. So, I don't know, and don't believe 2mm will make that much of a difference.)
Have more people broken the earlier tie rods? (Right now I would say YES, but only due to the fact the earlier tie rods are on all 2006, and 2007 models up to VIN 108975. After 108976, the vehicles had the larger 16mm installed. Since these are not normally replaced under warranty for breakage, I have no figures on how many have been replaced.)
Maybe we can upgrade to the later tie rods?

Could a simple clamp-on reinforcment sleeve be fabricated?
That way you wouldn't need to un-bolt anything or re-align the front end



What does the Alpha sterring system look like? Would that system work on the older H3s

Basically, the same. No specs yet, but since tire rods usually break due to stress from hits directly on them, or hits into the side of a wheel, or pressure from running on the side of the wheel, I would guess they will be the same size. I can say, the steering system looks identical, but I didn't measure anything.

[NEOCON1]

Originally Posted by inked

Yo HummBebe -
Thanks again!! As for coolnest - you get

yep she da bomb

[inked]

Originally Posted by NEOCON1

yep she da bomb

Heck yeah definitely cool. A for my tierod STILL NOT FREAKIN' IN YET!! If it takes too long I may have another source I could use - Hummbebe will keep you posted. If you ever need to directly email me just use:

4x4boyz@gmail.com

Aloha!

[HummBebe]

Thanks for the update :-)

[f5fstop]

The older 14mm inner/outer rods are being replaced with 16mm rods. If one (inner or outer) is replaced, the other must also be replaced.

[Desert Dan]

Thanks for the info f5fstop!

[HummBebe]

Originally Posted by f5fstop

The older 14mm inner/outer rods are being replaced with 16mm rods. If one (inner or outer) is replaced, the other must also be replaced.

So do you think my new rack came with 14mm or 16mm?

[f5fstop]

Originally Posted by HummBebe

So do you think my new rack came with 14mm or 16mm?

Chances are the new ones, but only way to tell would be to measure the diameter of the links, or see if there is an eight digit part number...outer - 15907712.

Now, I don't mind that the newer rods are larger, I also don't mind that if you replace one (either inner or outer) you have to replace the other. However, I am having a hard time locating the new rods for my trip.
To say I'm a bit peed at some people right now, is an understatement.
I should know more on Tuesday, when I return to work and have a long conversation with a parts' engineer.

[HummBebe]

Originally Posted by f5fstop

Chances are the new ones, but only way to tell would be to measure the diameter of the links, or see if there is an eight digit part number...outer - 15907712.

Now, I don't mind that the newer rods are larger, I also don't mind that if you replace one (either inner or outer) you have to replace the other. However, I am having a hard time locating the new rods for my trip.
To say I'm a bit peed at some people right now, is an understatement.
I should know more on Tuesday, when I return to work and have a long conversation with a parts' engineer.

The reason I noticed my tie rods were different, is when I went to pick up my truck after the rack was replaced, my new tie rods were black, with a yellow stripe.

[HummBebe]

Originally Posted by f5fstop

I should know more on Tuesday, when I return to work and have a long conversation with a parts' engineer.

Tell him I said hi


And make sure he knows I sent my only spare to Hawaii for a fellow wheeler....we're getting desperate here.

[SR1355]

Originally Posted by HummBebe

And make sure he knows I sent my only spare to Hawaii for a fellow wheeler....we're getting desperate here.

WE NEED SPARES!!!!

[f5fstop]

Originally Posted by HummBebe

The reason I noticed my tie rods were different, is when I went to pick up my truck after the rack was replaced, my new tie rods were black, with a yellow stripe.

I have not looked to see if the new rods are black, been a little busy putting out other fires.
How I found out about the new rods being back serviced is I ran across the chassis service engineer manager yesterday and asked him to explain why there were over three hundred back-ordered inner tie rods and about 150 back-ordered outer tie rods for the H3. His response was GM is not having any 14mm outer made, and only a limited number of inners, and the dealers should be ordering the new 16mm rods. Well, the parts manual does not state this, or at least my electronic copy dated May 1, does not state that. He will be looking into it.
I then had a friend run a parts check and guess what, per the parts' system, there are no new ones in stock either (WTF). So, it appears everyone, including me have taken today as a vacation day, and Monday is a holiday, therefore on Tuesday, I will be on the phone first thing to the chasis dude and the dude in charge of these tie rods for service parts.
Now, I have to get back to my production of some front end brackets for a Hi-Lift jack.