Da wheel thread.

[VTSTOMPER]

Hey folks!

I have been looking *drooling* on wheels now for a few days, and I want to end up with something that makes me happy.

I do NOT want a wheel that sticks out (meaning sticks out beyond the flairs. I have found the Helo black's in a 20X10 with a -12mm Offset. Trouble is, I have not a clue what offset I need to be looking for. Any ideas?

Here are the stock sizes...Wheel size 17x8.5
Wheel offset +18mm / 5.5" rear spacing. Do I need to match the offset with aftermarket 20's...and if I go 20, the wheel is 2 inches wider...acks...wtf Let me know what you all did...and toss a pic up. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[VTSTOMPER]

Hey folks!

I have been looking *drooling* on wheels now for a few days, and I want to end up with something that makes me happy.

I do NOT want a wheel that sticks out (meaning sticks out beyond the flairs. I have found the Helo black's in a 20X10 with a -12mm Offset. Trouble is, I have not a clue what offset I need to be looking for. Any ideas?

Here are the stock sizes...Wheel size 17x8.5
Wheel offset +18mm / 5.5" rear spacing. Do I need to match the offset with aftermarket 20's...and if I go 20, the wheel is 2 inches wider...acks...wtf Let me know what you all did...and toss a pic up. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[VTSTOMPER]

this is cool.

http://www.barretire.com/wheel%20offset.htm

Helped me understand what offset was better.

[VTSTOMPER]

anyone...anyone...

[TXSUT]

I would think that if you ran a 10 inch wide wheel with enough backspacing to keep it from sticking out, you'd get some rubbing on the steering components.

[VTSTOMPER]

whats the offset on your wheels?

[VTSTOMPER]

OIC...

I have never really put too much thought into it before, and I am pretty anal with the way I would like to have it. I suppose I can toss some bigger flairs on it if I need to. I see rodster did something like that.

maybe I will end up sticking with a damn 17 and some other tires. I just like the look and feel of slightly larger rims. (18"-20")

[TXSUT]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by VTSTOMPER:
whats the offset on your wheels? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

4.5" if I remember correctly.

[VTSTOMPER]

thanks TX!

Anyone want to post some pics of their aftermarket wheels...please do! I am more confused than when I started.

[rodster]

Nice shot, Phil. 15.50 is a w-i-i-i-de tire.

My tire/wheel combo along with the wide flares is a perfect fit (and that was lucky 'cause I sure didn't plan it that way). Flares and tire outboard edges are nearly identical.

37x13.50x18 tire on 18x9.5 rim with 4.25" backspace, -24 offset.

[rodster]

Here's a pic taken before the fender flares, which shows how much the tires stick out.

http://hxpics.us/images/Ely5.jpg

[VTSTOMPER]

wow guys, this is exactly the info I have been looking for. I am pretty visual type of guy! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Keep 'em coming.

[VTSTOMPER]

right now - these two are my fav's. These just looks kinda weird with that BIG hub cover.

[VTSTOMPER]

#2

[rodster]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by VTSTOMPER:
right now - these two are my fav's. These just looks kinda weird with that BIG hub cover. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I hear you on the BIG hub cover. When my new wheels arrived and I saw the caps I thought, whoa, we have smaller cereal bowls in the house! But once mounted, they're proportionate to the wheel/tire size and look okay. The size of the cap on the black and chrome wheel you posted likely looks bigger because the top is chrome. But I still imagine once you mount a tire it'll look right.

Shopping for tires and wheels is a mind bender (or at least it was for me). Offset, backspace, rim width and diameter coupled with some tires are sized in metric, some in non-metric . . . bah! Add to that the fact that not all tires come in sizes to fit all wheels and the whole thing gets pretty confusing real fast.

You might consider choosing your top two rims and your top two tires. Then see which combinations between them are possible. Could be that exercise will make your decision for you.

[H2_SUT_SC]

I've saved quite a few rim and tire pics to see what I think, IMO, looks the best. I've come to the conclusion that I'm going with 20x10" with 37x13.50's. 22's look sweet but I'm afraid of rim damage if I decide to go wheeling or run over a curb. I don't want to have to worry about that. I figure with 37's on 20's you have the same amount of sidewall as you do on a stock rim and tire.

[H2_SUT_SC]

37" Nitto Mud Grapplers on 20" Lexani's.

[H2_SUT_SC]

Same rim but 3pc and in black. My personal fav right now.

[H2_SUT_SC]

Asanti rim. Picture shows 5 lug but they do make an 8 lug for the H2.

[H2_SUT_SC]

USA Forged Patriot in black chrome

[H2_SUT_SC]

I can't remember if this one was gunmetal or black chrome.

Boze Stinger rim

[H2_SUT_SC]

Milano rim

[H2_SUT_SC]

USA Forged Havoc

[H2_SUT_SC]

Akuza Rigid - I like the look of this one as well.

[TXSUT]

That USA Havoc is a dead knock-off of the Weld Velociti (what I have).

Stomp, you still have the pics I sent you of how much my tires stick out (37x13.5 on 18x10 wheels), right?

[VTSTOMPER]

TX - no I don't still have them. I have a dead link that goes no place on blades. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Thanks for the pics guys! Keep 'em coming. I love the look of the 20's...but I am trying to talk myself down to 18's.

[VTSTOMPER]

damn...funny when tires are more than the rims! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[Boss Hoss]

Go with the 20's. Youll be happy with the look. I have Kaotik nt-1(20x10) and procomp xtreme all terrain 35x13.50 and i think it looks very nice---the rims have a negative offset which makes them stick out and the tires are wide for 35's so it gives a much more aggressive stance IMO.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/coryneal/Hummer608.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/coryneal/Hummer605.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/coryneal/Hummer600.jpg

[W1N]

I still think these are one of the coolest out there. Black Chromed of course... http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

http://users.tarina.eu.org/tkohila/H2/BC%20wheel.JPG

[VTSTOMPER]

can you use stock H2 caps with those ya think?

[W1N]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by VTSTOMPER:
can you use stock H2 caps with those ya think? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I let you know when I test them. I sent my OEM's to be black chromed as well, so I only have the ones that came with these. I'm positive though since it looks like they will be ok. I'd like to use the OEM's because they have the HUMMER written on them.

[VTSTOMPER]

What size did you go with? I bet that will look great!

[W1N]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by VTSTOMPER:
What size did you go with? I bet that will look great! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

These are 22". The thing is, that they look really awesome with limited edition BFG's.

http://gallery.pickuptruck.com/albums/sema2004/DSC04551.sized.jpg

http://gallery.pickuptruck.com/albums/sema2004/DSC04554.sized.jpg

I just got the tires too. And they are really bad ass... http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[VTSTOMPER]

Did you buy them already? whoa...22" might be too big for what I am thinking about...I thought they might be 20s. Are you getting them from the site/Jason?

[W1N]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by VTSTOMPER:
Did you buy them already? whoa...22" might be too big for what I am thinking about...I thought they might be 20s. Are you getting them from the site/Jason? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No, I got the wheels at eBay, tires at Discount tire. Black chroming was done by a shop in California. Yes, I do have everything. I was going get 20's before, but I saw a one with 22" and it wasn't that bad. These tires 37" tall so they actually have more rubber around the wheel that what you usually see (hope they don't rub too much) and they really look awesome. I like a good combination of big wheels and big tires. Altough, we have to have the tire inside the fenders, these might stick out a bit, but hopefully not so much that cops will pay any attention to it. Wheels have 5" backspacing (5.5" OEM) and the tire is 335, when OEM is 315, so I'm calculating that these will be around 1 1/4" more out than stock, which should be ok.

[VTSTOMPER]

So you are running stock ride height right now? I see there is a cheap set on ebay...22" for 1200 + shipping...that seems pretty cheap.

[W1N]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by VTSTOMPER:
So you are running stock ride height right now? I see there is a cheap set on ebay...22" for 1200 + shipping...that seems pretty cheap. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's where I got mine. And yes, I will be running stock hight, since my truck is on the way over. I just had a trip to overseas (CO, NV, CA, NY) and gathered some stuff I will be adding. I'd like to go for a 6" lift, but there is few problems with that including my girlfriend http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif . Eventually I probably will, though...

[VTSTOMPER]

Sweet! That will look great! I will be buying something in the spring I would think. I have pressed pause with the baby on route! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I do like those, and I think they would look great on my truck. I think I might still stick with the 20's though...you will have to toss some pics up when you get them on your truck.

[W1N]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by VTSTOMPER:
Sweet! That will look great! I will be buying something in the spring I would think. I have pressed pause with the baby on route! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I do like those, and I think they would look great on my truck. I think I might still stick with the 20's though...you will have to toss some pics up when you get them on your truck. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'll do that. Can't wait the day myself http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Sportsdude]

Looks like it's going to be really nice. I'm still debating on which type to get. KMC 22" rim looks really nice with BFG tires.

[VTSTOMPER]

W1N,

When are you getting these babies in?

[VTSTOMPER]

18X9 Moto Metal

http://customwheel.com/custom_wheels/product_info.php/c...09a5926752ded3f4b184 (http://customwheel.com/custom_wheels/product_info.php/cPath/21_226/products_id/898?osCsid=814f89dbe17b09a5926752ded3f4b184)

That is what I am going with!

Glad that crap is over. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Now I just need to pick some tires! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

[VTSTOMPER]

Yeah, I wanted the 20, but the whole X10 thing makes me feel it would stick out of the fendar quite a bit.

[VTSTOMPER]

LOL! Yeah - I was like: What does he mean...OHHHHHHH, got it. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I just hate the added sand blast to the paint. Mud and what not is fine during off road driving...maybe I am being too hard on the look...but I never like tire showing over the body much.

[rodster]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by VTSTOMPER:
Now I just need to pick some tires! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Plan on staying with 35s?

[VTSTOMPER]

I think so...You are running 37's right?

[VTSTOMPER]

I might go 37's, and now I will have to let them stick out if I do that I am sure. I will probably have to get the flares

[rodster]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by VTSTOMPER:
I think so...You are running 37's right? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Right now I'm running to dinner. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif BRB

[rodster]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by VTSTOMPER:
I might go 37's, and now I will have to let them stick out if I do that I am sure. I will probably have to get the flares </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

37s aren't an automatic ticket to flares. Depends on the width of tire you get. Tim runs (I think) 37 x 12.5 and his don't seem to stick out. I imagine the backspacing and offset of your rims will impact things, too.

[VTSTOMPER]

For the Moto metal I like here are the stats:

18x9 with a -12mm offset (4.5 inch backspace)

If I go 37 X 12.5 I think that would look pretty good, and will not rub. I am not doing a lift at this point...and not sure i ever will.

[TXSUT]

Considering all your preferences and everything else, J, I think that is going to look really good on your truck. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

[rodster]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by VTSTOMPER:
18x9 with a -12mm offset (4.5 inch backspace)
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Factory wheel backspace is 5.5" so the 12.50 tire will, theoretically, stick out 1 more inch. But even with that extra inch hopefully you'll still be under the fender.

Man, I'm sooo glad my days of figuring all this out are over! Makes my head spin!

I agree with TX, this will be a sweet setup. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

[VTSTOMPER]

ROFL!

I really thank both all you guys for helping me figure these things out.

I cannot wait! I will be making a purchase after the first of the year I think! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[W1N]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by VTSTOMPER:
W1N,

When are you getting these babies in? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I do have everything now (tires and wheels), except the new truck which should be arriving right after new years and the black chromed OEM center caps. If you want I can try to post some pictures of the tires or wheels. They sure look intimidating.

[VTSTOMPER]

TAKE A PIC AND POST IT! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I cannot wait to see them!!!!!

FYI The side of my family from Finland is: Ahonen (not sure if I have the spelling right...it was two generations ago.

[VTSTOMPER]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by H2_SUT_SC:
37" Nitto Mud Grapplers on 20" Lexani's. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Did you have rubbing with the 37" tires? I am thinking of going with 37" tires. You are not, or were not running a lift right?

thanks!

[H2_SUT_SC]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by VTSTOMPER:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by H2_SUT_SC:
37" Nitto Mud Grapplers on 20" Lexani's. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Did you have rubbing with the 37" tires? I am thinking of going with 37" tires. You are not, or were not running a lift right?

thanks! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Sorry bro, I haven't got mine yet. I'm still debating between a couple sets of wheels. Plus I'm waiting till I get my resellers license beginning of the year. I plan on going with 37's on 20's though. Same amount of sidewall as stock but looks great. There's a ton of guys running this and everything I hear basically says yes they rub but not that much. That's fine by me.

[tomp]

Is there a specification for a 20" x 10" wheel that will not rub? What would the backspacing and offset be for these wheels to fit without rubbing?

[VTSTOMPER]

tomp,

What size tire are you planning on running?

[tomp]

I am planning on 20" rims with 35 tires. I am also keeping my stock wheels and putting BFG mud terrains on them for hunting season.

Not sure if I can get away with a 10" wide wheel, but it looks promising.

[timgco]

Yes, the wheel thread is back.

After seeing ROdsters rims with 4.5" offset with 37 12.50 18's, I am wondering what a 18X9 with a 4.75" offset will look like. Will this offset rub, stick out more or less? Anyone?
I have 35 12.50 18" BFG MT's. or do I need to go with a 4.5" offset at stock height?

[KenP]

Isn't that going to bring the inner wall toward the center of the vehicle by another 1/4"? Do you have that room?

BTW, WTF vehicle are you talking about? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[VTSTOMPER]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KenP:

BTW, WTF vehicle are you talking about? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


I know right - what a pimp daddy! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[timgco]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KenP:
Isn't that going to bring the inner wall toward the center of the vehicle by another 1/4"? Do you have that room?

BTW, WTF vehicle are you talking about? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

H2- but just found out the 18 X 9 wheel has only one option for offset of 5". Is this close to stock? Or is this going "F" up the tire hitting the wheelwell or frame?