4157 LL Bulb

[LasVegas]

I know the DRL lights have been discussed many times. So much I'm confused. Can anyone tell me if the Sylvania 4157 LL bulb is brighter/whiter than the oem bulb? This is what Sylvania's website say's to use. If not, what is recommended without going to HID?

[LasVegas]

I know the DRL lights have been discussed many times. So much I'm confused. Can anyone tell me if the Sylvania 4157 LL bulb is brighter/whiter than the oem bulb? This is what Sylvania's website say's to use. If not, what is recommended without going to HID?

[LasVegas]

I know the DRL lights have been discussed many times. So much I'm confused. Can anyone tell me if the Sylvania 4157 LL bulb is brighter/whiter than the oem bulb? This is what Sylvania's website say's to use. If not, what is recommended without going to HID?

[DRTYFN]

No, the 4157 is not any brighter than the stock piece of crap bulb.
Check to see if Sylvania makes either a 3157 or 4157 in their SilverStar line. Those will be much better than stock. Their SilverStar headlight bulbs are awesome and well worth the money. Much cheaper than the POS PIAA bulbs and much less expensive with excellent clean white light output.

[LasVegas]

Thx guys for response to this worn out subject. DRTY I think you're right. The 4157 LL is just a replacement bulb. Sylvania does make 3157/4157A ST which is the SilverStar High Performance bulb @ 24 watts. I think that will be much brighter/whiter but I'm a bit concerned about the heat. Anyone had experience with that bulb? If not I can call Sylvania. Thanks again.

[LasVegas]

New info. I just spoke with Sylvania about DRL bulbs. First, the 4157 LL is just a replacement bulb (long life). Their 3157/4157A ST is a SilverStar high performance bulb and they assure me it's brighter/whiter. It does NOT burn hotter. Their only concern is life. They say it may not last as long as the std bulb.

P.S. TwinPak $24.18 incl shipping/tax

[LasVegas]

thanks phil. You're correct.

[J.T.H2]

I have the Silverstar's and they are definitely an upgrade from the oem bulbs. I put them in about a month ago and there hasn't been any problems with the heat. The light is also much brighter. Definitely worth the extra cash...

[J.T.H2]

Forgot to mention that I also got the 9007 headlight lamps, also a lot better.

[LasVegas]

Jose.. Glad you're speaking to me after jumping you yesterday http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I ordered the 9007 but exactly what p/n did you use for the DLR's? Thanks

[Spike]

I have both the silver star headlights and the amber DRL silver stars #3157/4157AST that I installed almost a year ago. No problems with heat in either application. I did however have to replace one of the headlights already (burned out). I like the amber DRL's and I get a lot of compliments on them from other H2 owners.

[J.T.H2]

LasVegas, we are all family here...I tossed the packaging for the DRL's. All I have is the packaging for the 9007's. Sorry...

[LasVegas]

Thanks Spike. I have both on order.

[ChuckE]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PhilD:
Another alternative is to replace them with some Cibie Tango lights, I'm sure Paragon did a good write up on the install, but I can't find it. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Actually it was H2Norcal who did the good write-up way back in 04/06/03.

You will find it here: Kiss the DRLs goodbye (http://elcova.com/groupee/forums?a=tpc&s=2826088551&f=6706011751&m=1516026482)

[PARAGON]

Yeah, I did do a write up and I have the Tangos in replacement of my DRLs. I have one big complaint though. The bulbs in the Tangos are something weird and not common, I think they might be H2 style (bulb style, not the vehicle) and I can't find any silverstar or piaa whites to put in there. So, I am running my HID headlights and the Tango fog lights are extremely pale yellow compared to the HIDs. I can't find any bulb upgrades for them.

Find some good fogs in the 5" diameter range and you can cut the back of the DRL buckets out and mount the lights directly to the top of the metal bumper for a secure mounting.

[PARAGON]

Here is the thread where I replaced my DRLs

http://elcova.com/groupee/forums?a=tpc&s=2826088551&f=6706011751&m=3346023455&r=3346023455#3346023455

[ChuckE]

Cool write-up PARAGON, and great pictures.

So there is your 01-27-04 write-up about Cibies mounted in the plastic part of the bumper. I didn't notice anywhere as to which type of Cibies, though, I believe they are Tangos, right?.

I looked on hummersolutions website and all I saw there were the PIAA lamps. I like the look and size of the PIAA 540, I think it would fit just about right. But several people here have said that all the PIAA's are POS.

Then there is the 04-06-03 write-up by H2Norcal who used the Cibie Tangos and mounted them on the steel of the actual bumper behind the plastic facade. H2Norcal mentioned "fully adjustable from each side of the wheel wells and are firmly mounted and don't vibrate."

That sounds pretty cool too. Thanks to both of you.

[PARAGON]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ChuckE:
Cool write-up PARAGON, and great pictures.

So there is your 01-27-04 write-up about Cibies mounted in the plastic part of the bumper. I didn't notice anywhere as to which type of Cibies, though, I believe they are Tangos, right?.

I looked on hummersolutions website and all I saw there were the PIAA lamps. I like the look and size of the PIAA 540, I think it would fit just about right. But several people here have said that all the PIAA's are POS.

Then there is the 04-06-03 write-up by H2Norcal who used the Cibie Tangos and mounted them on the steel of the actual bumper behind the plastic facade. H2Norcal mentioned "fully adjustable from each side of the wheel wells and are firmly mounted and don't vibrate."

That sounds pretty cool too. Thanks to both of you. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>My installation and H2Norcal's are identical. Mine are mounted to the metal top of my Warn winch bumper now but is the same as the top of the original metal bumper. You can easily reach in from the wheel well and reach around to the front at the same time and make the adjustments as finite as you would like. This would be the case with any light mounted the same way.

Mine are indeed Tangos also. Cibies were hard to come by in the states and mine were on backorder with hummersolutions for a few months before I actually received them. But again, I would suggest another set of fogs since the Tangos take such a unique bulb. I know of no one who has complained about PIAAs, everyone I know that have/has used them like them. I have PIAAs on my light bar and really like the quality.

[ChuckE]

Well, I really thought I had read somewhere here where at least one person had bad mouthed PIAA. But I can't find the message now. No matter.

So, ... glad to hear that a few people here actually like the PIAA, because that is the light I intended to get, since it looks like a real good fit in the DRL location, and I like the look with that grid guard over the lens (it might be some plastic crap, but it is better than no guard at all).

I wasn't too worried about the light output anyway, since even a poor driving light has to be gobs better than the OE DRLs.

I was just searching on this board and I did find additional write-ups where others had used the PIAA 540's in the DRL positions. Cool. I am looking forward to doing this...

[dochummer]

How do the amber silverstar 3157A's do in fog? I remember driving a mercedes once that had amber lights for fog lights, and I could see much better in dense fog and such. Secondly, has anyone compared the wagner lightbulbs to the silverstars? I've used Wagner bulbs before and they are definately an improvement to the oem lights as far as brightness goes, and much more cost efficient. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[LasVegas]

DRTY & others. Thanks for your input. Installed the Silverstar 9007ST headlamps and the 3157/4157 AST DRL's. Great looking lamps. Next best thing to HID.

[RoverRoller]

Is there any way to modify the DRL's and put a xenon bulb in there?

[dochummer]

Ok, picked up Silverstar 9007's at Walmart for about $40 bucks and 4157 AST's at Schucks for about $20 bucks. Probably could have gotten the 4157's cheaper somewhere else, but was too lazy to drive around town. Schuck's had the 9007's for $50 bucks and said they would pricematch with an additional 5%.... Here are some pics of 1 9007 and 4157 installed...

[dochummer]

Both sides installed....The 9007's are definately whiter (don't know if you can really tell in the pic). I'll have to compare them to my bright wagner bulbs to see if they're much lighter. The wagners were only 9 bucks each...

[LasVegas]

Nice lamps aren't they for minimum cost.

[ChuckE]

Couldn't you make those pictures just a little bit BIGGER? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

My 21" screen seemed so small displaying those pictures.

[dochummer]

I'm trying to encourage everyone to move up to larger screens. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Sorry, I'll try and decrease the dimensions next time...