GM XM Radio Kit

[Klaus]

From GMPartsDirect:

GM PART # 12498768
CATEGORY: All
PACK QTY: 1 CORE CHARGE: $0.00
GM LIST: $397.14
OUR PRICE: $333.60
DESCRIPTION: Add on XM player for 2003-2004 trucks

[Klaus]

From GMPartsDirect:

GM PART # 12498768
CATEGORY: All
PACK QTY: 1 CORE CHARGE: $0.00
GM LIST: $397.14
OUR PRICE: $333.60
DESCRIPTION: Add on XM player for 2003-2004 trucks

[Klaus]

From GMPartsDirect:

GM PART # 12498768
CATEGORY: All
PACK QTY: 1 CORE CHARGE: $0.00
GM LIST: $397.14
OUR PRICE: $333.60
DESCRIPTION: Add on XM player for 2003-2004 trucks

[Klaus]

More info:

http://www.xmfan.com/viewtopic.php?t=26317

[PARAGON]

I also found this:

http://www.myradiostore.us/bundles/car/gm-xm-bundle.html

[PARAGON]

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Now you can enjoy XM Satellite Radio right on your existing factory head unit
on select Cadillac, Chevrolet, GMC and Pontiac vehicles with this COMPLETE
bundle.</P>


Plug the all-new adapter from Precision Interface Electronics into the rear
12-pin harness, run the included IP-Bus cable into the Pioneer XM Tuner. Hook up
a power source and your antenna to the Pioneer tuner as well, and you are now
able to control and see the XM channels right on your GM XM Satellite ready
radio.</P>


INCLUDED IN THIS BUNDLE:</P>Pioneer GEX-FM903XM (http://www.myradiostore.us/xm-radio-receivers/pioneer-gex-fm903xm.html)
tuner
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href="http://www.myradiostore.us/auxadapters/pie/accessories-cables/piip18daca.html">18'
IP-BUS Cable</A>
P.I.E. GM12/PC-PIOX (http://www.myradiostore.us/auxadapters/pie/factory/pioneer-xm-cd/gm12-pc-piox.html)
Interface
<A
href="http://www.myradiostore.us/antennas-cables/for-skyfi/for-single-lead-car-kit/blitzsafe-micro-antenna.html">Micro
Antenna</A> and Splitter (http://www.myradiostore.us/antennas-cables/for-cables-miscellaneous/blitzsafe-antenna-splitter.html)



Sample installation:</P>http://www.myradiostore.com/piegm.jpg


CD changer and speakers shown for illustrative purposes only and are not
included with this bundle.</P>


<U>Application Guide:</U></P>


For use with the following vehicles that have XM Satellite Radio Ready
head units. Radio must have a "BAND" button to work with this bundle.</P>


CADILLAC[/B]</P>
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<LI>4 Escalade
<LI>2003-2004 EXT</LI>[/list]


CHEVROLET</P>
<UL>
<LI>2003-2004 Avalanche
<LI>2003-2004 Blazer
<LI>2000-2004 Cavalier
<LI>2000-2004 Lumina
<LI>2002-2004 Impala
<LI>2001-2004 Malibu
<LI>2000-2004 Monte Carlo
<LI>2003-2004 C/K Truck
<LI>2003-2004 Silverado
<LI>2003-2004 Suburban
<LI>2003-2004 Tahoe
<LI>2000-2004 Venture</LI>[/list]


GMC
</P>
<UL>
<LI>2002-2004 Envoy
<LI>2003-2004 Sierra
<LI>2003-2004 Sierra Denali
<LI>2003-2004 Yukon/XL
<LI>2003-2004 Sonoma</LI>[/list]


Hummer</P>
<UL>
<LI>2003-2004 H2</LI>[/list]Pontiac


</P>
<UL>
<LI>2000-2004 Montana
<LI>2000-2004 Sunfire
<LI>2003-2004 Vibe</LI>[/list]</DIV>

[Klaus]

Paragon,

The kit you point out is NOT GM. This new kit is actually GM parts! The Digital Tuner Module looks just like factory installed units!

[Adam in CO]

I think my SIRUIS Sat radio cost me about $100.00, installed.

http://www.circuitcity.com/detail.jsp?c=1&b=g&u=c&catoid=-10341&qp=0&oid=86769&m=0

The receivers (I bought one for each car), were 100/ea with a 50 rebate/ea and the cradles were 50/ea.

[PARAGON]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Klaus:
Paragon,

The kit you point out is NOT GM. This new kit is actually GM parts! The Digital Tuner Module looks just like factory installed units! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Does it matter if it's GM or Pioneer since it's controlled through the stock radio?

[Klaus]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PARAGON:
Does it matter if it's GM or Pioneer since it's controlled through the stock radio? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, very much so. The Pioneer kit has a 3rd party adapter (in this case made by PIE) which converts GM commands into Pioneer commands. These adapters have been very troublesome. Problems like losing presets, disrupting diagnostic testing with a GM Tech 2, etc.

I have gone ahead and ordered the GM kit. To be continued...

[PARAGON]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Klaus:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PARAGON:
Does it matter if it's GM or Pioneer since it's controlled through the stock radio? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, very much so. The Pioneer kit has a 3rd party adapter (in this case made by PIE) which converts GM commands into Pioneer commands. These adapters have been very troublesome. Problems like losing presets, disrupting diagnostic testing with a GM Tech 2, etc.

I have gone ahead and ordered the GM kit. To be continued... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Brain fart on my part. I don't know what I was thinking (or not thinking)!

You're right the GM kit would be the way to go, keep us posted.

[pushrod]

Klaus:

I gave the number 12498768 to the parts guy at the local dealer. He called someone at GM, who told him the part number was for a C/K pickup and that the software would be incompatbile with the radio software for the H2. Also, he could not find out if the part number was the whole kit or just the radio itself.

I figure you know more about it than they do. Have you researched the issue to determine that buying the part number will get "factory" XM in my '04 H2 without having to do anything more than drill a hole in the roof for the XM antenna?

[Klaus]

The kit "officially" does not support the H2. However, I am confident that most, if not all of the parts will work. Remember, GM said the NAV unit was incompatible with the H2!

IMO, I don't think GM will come out with a kit just for the H2. Not enough demand.

The real news is that here is a kit that includes the GM Digital Tuner Module, a part which up to now has been unobtainable.

I have ordered the kit, so just hang on until I get it and attempt to install. I was in the process of doing this anyway, so between the kit and the parts I already have, I should be able to make it work. For example, I have the 2005 H2 roof antenna on order, so I should not have to drill a new hole - Just replace the antenna.

The main reason for my post was to let folks know that the 3rd party kits may no longer be the only option open to us.

To be continued...

[Klaus]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by pushrod:
...drill a hole in the roof for the XM antenna? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Since the Digital Tuner Module uses a standard connector, you could choose to use an aftermarket magnetic mount antenna, which would keep you from having to drill a hole.

[Longhorn]

I don't think you need to drill a hole for a Sat antenna. The audio shop that did my Sirius install just ran the wire into the passenger side orange marker lamp and down through the front pillar.

I have to control my Sirius though, through a Kenwood remote panel mounted on the front of the sunroof controls.

[OldHiker]

Will this work on an '04 Nav unit?

[Klaus]

Everyone please stand by! I just ordered the kit yesterday. Please give me a couple of weeks to get the kit and attempt to install it.

My main reason to post info about the kit was to let folks know that there *MAY* be a factory kit as opposed to aftermarket adapters which have been flakey.

This kit is NOT intended for the H2, but I believe it will work. In fact, I've put my money where my mouth is and ordered the kit myself. My truck will be the "test mule" - So there is no need for anyone here to risk their money on the kit until I give it a shot.

[Dan]

Klaus, is it working yet? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[Klaus]

Hell yeah! UPS delivered it about 2 AM, and I completely installed it in 15 minutes! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

It would have been done quicker, but I had to take pictures and write up the install docs! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[pushrod]

Have you been able to install the XM?

[Klaus]

I have the kit, but I am waiting for the 2005 H2 OnStar/XM roof antenna.

[DRTYFN]

He's probably still f'ing off in Seattle or SF. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
Klaus, I'm dying over here. Did you install it yet?

[Klaus]

The antenna is on GM parts restriction. The parts guy is trying to get me one anyway.

Thank God I'm back home!

[partsguy]

Who is the supplier?

[discofever]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Klaus:
I have the kit, but I am waiting for the 2005 H2 OnStar/XM roof antenna. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Klaus,
Q: Are we to understand that you have installed all the components for XM, and you are simply waiting for the H2 OnStar/XM roof antenna form your part dealer?
Q: Have you tried the components with another XM antenna to confirm that the system operates properly?

The reason I ask, if your system operates, I would like to order a set of components for my 2003 H2 right away!

[Klaus]

No, I have not installed any part of the XM kit yet, as I don't want to disassemble my truck more than once if I can help it. However, I believe the tuner and wiring of the kit will work fine. The mount for the tuner and the antenna from the kit are unlikely to work on the H2.

I don't know who supplies the antenna to GM.

[DRTYFN]

Can't you go steal one so you can get this done?http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[partsguy]

Have you had your guy put a SPAC case in yet?
If not I will and give it to you for nothing.
Except of corse the know how! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gifThink of it
as a sponsorship.Call me or PM me!

[Klaus]

Partsguy, I replied in a PM to you.

Drty, the antenna is on national backorder. Give it some time, it will get here soon enough. Of course, by then GM will probably have a kit specifically for the H2! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Here's a picture of the antenna.

[Klaus]

Here's another picture. I'd say who sent me these pictures - But with Drty talking about midnight auto supply, I'm saving his truck!http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[DRTYFN]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Klaus:
Here's another picture. I'd say who sent me these pictures - But with Drty talking about midnight auto supply, I'm saving his truck!http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'll find one.http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[partsguy]

Klaus check PM.

[Dan]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DRTYFN:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Klaus:
Here's another picture. I'd say who sent me these pictures - But with Drty talking about midnight auto supply, I'm saving his truck!http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'll find one.http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You can tell him Klaus. He can find one's closer than CT. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[partsguy]

Klaus,
If your guy has a spac case,The warehouse due
date is the 15th of september.Spac case will
be filled first!You"ll get your before I will.
Unless I drive 4 hours north. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Klaus]

Partsguy,

Thanks for the info. I'm sure I'm on the list to get one first.


Dan,

What if Drty has a friend close by in CT? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

[Dan]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Klaus:
What if Drty has a friend close by in CT? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Drty has a friend???

[DRTYFN]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dan:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Klaus:
What if Drty has a friend close by in CT? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Drty has a friend??? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Butthole.http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[partsguy]

Klaus,
your antenna got to be on the way!!!!
Gold coast cady in Nj shows that they have one.
732-695-1400.

[Klaus]

Thanks, partsguy. I just sent an email to check on my order. I suspect it is on the way.

[Klaus]

Partsguy,

Please check your Private Messages.

[partsguy]

Check PM http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[discofever]

Klaus can you update us on your progress with this install? I'm anxious.... http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

[Klaus]

Yeah, I know... Drty and I are racing to see how slow we can do our projects (his bumper and my XM install). http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

I plan to do the install some time next week, so I should have some good news for everyone then.

[BalanceMan]

I bought the kit from gmpartsdirect.com. Everything installed with no problem.

It works properly through both the DVD/NAV system and the steering wheel controls. The song names and station names display on the NAV display and you get 12 presets on the radio, XM 1 and XM 2.

I used the XM antenna supplied with the kit and mounted it on the right side roof, symetrical with the Onstar antenna on the left side. Have seen it that way on other H2s. Had to pull down the headliner a little and drill 2 holes, but the antenna has a built in gasket that seals well on the flat surface. Total installation time was about 4 hours and it took me a while to figure out how to remove the sunvisor. Only modification to the kit i made was to cut off an extension on the reciever mounting bracket. All the other parts and connectors fit with no problem.

Bob K.

[Klaus]

I just installed my XM Kit! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

As BalanceMan said, works fine. More later...

[pushrod]

Is there any reason to be concerned that the kit will not work with the 2004 6 disc CD Radio?

[Klaus]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by pushrod:
Is there any reason to be concerned that the kit will not work with the 2004 6 disc CD Radio? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I bet it would work fine.

[DRTYFN]

BalanceMan,
Exactly which part number(s) did you order? And exactly what was included in the kit?

Very nice picture Klaus. Looks great.

[Klaus]

Drty,

I gave up on the idea of using the 2005 antenna, as the connectors are completely different. Therefore, I used the XM antenna in the GM Kit, drilling 5/8" and 3/16" holes in the roof to mount the antenna.

From GMPartsDirect:

GM PART # 12498768
CATEGORY: All
PACK QTY: 1 CORE CHARGE: $0.00
GM LIST: $397.14
OUR PRICE: $333.60
DESCRIPTION: Add on XM player for 2003-2004 trucks

Installing the antenna in the kit on 2003s with sunroofs may be a problem. 2004s and later should be a piece of cake, as the XM antenna can be installed where the AM/FM antenna is installed on the 2003s. The problem is with the reinforcing areas on the underside of the roof. It limits where the kit's antenna can be mounted. However, the antenna connector on the XM Tuner Module is standard, so a small stick-on aftermarket antenna could be used.

I took a bunch of pictures, and will work on an install doc in the next day or two.

[Klaus]

Here are scans of the GM XM Kit's instructions.

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[Klaus]

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[Klaus]

3

[Klaus]

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[Klaus]

5

[DRTYFN]

Is it absolutely necessary to drill holes in the roof?

[Klaus]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DRTYFN:
Is it absolutely necessary to drill holes in the roof? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

If you want to install the GM antenna - Yes. However, I believe you could use an aftermarket magnetic/stick-on antenna instead. I have not tested it, but I suspect you would just have to change the "sleeve" of the connector on the aftermarket antenna to plug it into the XM tuner.

[prplprowlr]

klaus,

I am wanting to do this to my 2003 asap can you please provide the part #'s used for this install of the 2004 Navigation Radio and the GM add on xm radio kit?

Partsguy,
on the 2 above what type of price can you give compared to gmpartsdirect.

Thanks Ron

[Klaus]

Ron,

Stand by on your NAV install - I will have further news in a week or so... I just ordered a Touch-Screen (TNR) NAV unit. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[prplprowlr]

Klaus,

keep me updated on the message earlier, I do have interest just e-mail me.

Thanks Ron

[partsguy]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by prplprowlr:
klaus,

I am wanting to do this to my 2003 asap can you please provide the part #'s used for this install of the 2004 Navigation Radio and the GM add on xm radio kit?

Partsguy,
on the 2 above what type of price can you give compared to gmpartsdirect.

Thanks Ron <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I can do the kit for 315.95
with maybe $9.00 freight.It will take 48Hrs to
get.

[pushrod]

I am absolutely delighted to report that the kit works perfectly in a 2004 H2 with the 6 disc CD radio. Everything works and looks just like the one from the factory that came in my wife's '03 Tahoe. The antenna is permanently mounted where the am/fm radio antenna was on the '03 H2s. The only issue was the bracket, which was for a pickup. The dealer put it in and I have not had a chance to see how they attached the XM receiver behind the glove box.

[Klaus]

I'm glad your install went well. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

The bracket worked fine in my 03. The only thing I did was to remove the captive nuts from the bracket and slide some flat captive nuts on the dash support behind the glove box. That way, I could install the bracket with the XM Tuner already snapped in.

The only problem I see with the antenna is the 03s with a sunroof.

[pushrod]

Hey Klaus:

I thought the story of the XM Radio install was over for me, but there is a confusing wrinkle after all. The radio has taken to shutting off from time to time. It completely shuts down -- even the lights on the radio controls go off. It then comes back on in about a minute. The clock resets to 12:00 when it does this. I presume this means all power to the radio unit is cut being cut off and then reestablished.

This morning, on a 1 1/2 hour ride, it shut off twice in the first 10 minutes of the trip, reset twice and then operated fine until I parked. When I got done with business, I started the truck and made a call using On Star before turning the radio on and the radio knobs again went out, as did the clock. After about a minute, the whole thing came back on and the person I had been talking to was still on the phone. Once I was finished with the call, I turned on the radio, set the program to XM, reset the clock and drove about 1 1/2 hours without further problems.

It is almost as if a circuit breaker is getting hot, opening and shutting everything down, and then closing again after a little cooling.

Do you have in your collection of service bulletins anything that might explain my mysterious radio condition? It was not doing this before the XM install, so I suspect it has something to do with that.

[Klaus]

I suspect the 24 pin connector plugged into the back of the radio. If you read the instructions, what you are basically doing is removing the positive and negative wiring from the connector, then adding the replacement positive and negative wiring from the kit, which is essentially a set of "Y" adapters to give the XM tuner power. One of the pins could be loose or bent.

The only other thing I can think of is a loose or broken fuse.

Make the dealer fix it. You paid them to install it, right?

[pushrod]

I did pay them to install it, and they are going to get an opportunity to fix the problem.

Nevertheless, my idea was that a little research on what the problem might be would save me some time. More often than not, with quirky stuff like this, previous vehicles have been returned to me at the end of the day with an invoice marked "could not duplicate problem." I was hoping to point them in the right direction before leaving it there.

[pushrod]

Mysterious shutting-off of the radio problem solved. Work Order reports: "Found poor connection at terminal 1044 terminal loose. R & R radio and tightened terminal 1044 orange wire."

I kind of wish they had done that the first time if paid them to install the XM radio.

The XM radio was not the problem.

[Klaus]

Glad they got it fixed for you. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif