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Peter etg

08-15-2005, 10:01 AM

I have offered seller 32000 for this one. He wants 33000. But i think he will let me have it for 32000.
Is this price good or do you think i should keep on my search for anotherone?
Can anyone please check carfax on it for me?
Seller does not have a carfax.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2003-Hummer-H2-Luxury-Be...QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2003-Hummer-H2-Luxury-Beautiful-4x4-Moonroof-NO-Reserve_W0QQitemZ4568456639QQcategoryZ43913QQrdZ1Q QcmdZViewItem)

thanks
Peter

Peter etg

08-15-2005, 10:01 AM

tVan

08-15-2005, 11:27 AM

seems like a good price to me...I paid 32,500 for my 03 with 45k miles....and it looks to be the exact same as that one

Peter etg

08-15-2005, 04:22 PM

It is difficult buying a car unseen. Any other thoughts anyone?

Peter

aggiehummer...er

08-15-2005, 04:57 PM

$32,000 is a solid price. The principles of persuasion say that you should give a little bit, and make a specific offer using some language like "Well, after looking at auction values and comparing them to your truck, I will give a little bit, but the highest I can go is $32,218"

It will make the seller think they're dealing with a pro, and he will want to give a little in response, since you used that exact terminology.

DRTYFN

08-15-2005, 05:05 PM

H2_SUT_SC

08-15-2005, 05:08 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DRTYFN:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Hummer destroyer:
FWIW, that 32K is about 1/2 the cost of a NEW BUILD home around here. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You live in Peru? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I was guessing Cambodia.

H2_SUT_SC

08-15-2005, 05:09 PM

Then again this is probably his idea of a new "home".

http://www.geology.und.nodak.edu/gerla/home/TRAILER.JPG

ChuckE

08-15-2005, 05:11 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Hummer destroyer:
FWIW, that 32K is about 1/2 the cost of a NEW BUILD home around here. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
and FWIW (For What It's Worth), so what?

$32K would not even cover the typical down payment on a house loan around here. But so what!
You live in a cheap area, but so what?

Peter etg

08-15-2005, 05:29 PM

Sorry for interupting you guys in your houseloan discussion.. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
IF i buy this one. Where do you suggest i look for used accesories, such as hard carrier and so on?
Is Ebay the best place for that?

Peter etg

08-15-2005, 05:34 PM

Warranty will not be valid over here in sweden.

W1N

08-15-2005, 05:35 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Hummer destroyer:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ChuckE:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Hummer destroyer:
FWIW, that 32K is about 1/2 the cost of a NEW BUILD home around here. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
and FWIW (For What It's Worth), so what?

$32K would not even cover the typical down payment on a house loan around here. But so what!
You live in a cheap area, but so what? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not my fault you live in an overpriced Yuppie Hell. And if you cannot get a Loan with 32K down, you must hvae a FICO score around 500.

Seeing as mine is around 700, and I got approved for 110K with 2K down, 5% fixed for 15 years.

EVEN WITH a Fico score around 450, you should be able to get a loan for at LEAST 320K with a 32K downpayment. 10% is usually the norm. Sounds like you have one of those "Interest Only" Loans happening. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

FWIW, nobody gives a flying fudge what you got approved for!!!

timgco

08-15-2005, 05:37 PM

mr.jeepster

08-15-2005, 06:04 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Peter etg:
I have offered seller 32000 for this one. He wants 33000. But i think he will let me have it for 32000.
Is this price good or do you think i should keep on my search for anotherone?
Can anyone please check carfax on it for me?
Seller does not have a carfax.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2003-Hummer-H2-Luxury-Be...QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2003-Hummer-H2-Luxury-Beautiful-4x4-Moonroof-NO-Reserve_W0QQitemZ4568456639QQcategoryZ43913QQrdZ1Q QcmdZViewItem)

thanks
Peter </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Looks like a good deal to me - not a great deal, but a good one. I paid 39k for mine, but it had a few more options (air suspension, etc.) and much lower mileage - still comfortably in mfg. warranty. How much more will it cost you to actually take possession of this one if you buy it?

Scott
'03 H2 Adv. Pkg. w/10" DVD

Peter etg

08-15-2005, 06:13 PM

dessertfox
It will cost me about the double before it is outside of my house and ready to be driven. After all taxes and stuff are paied for. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

LoLo

08-16-2005, 01:05 PM

Peter -- did you ever get a CarFax on it? I would be very careful buying on eBay... but I know you have already been cautioned on that! Good luck, whatever you do... http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

LoLo

08-16-2005, 01:16 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Hummer destroyer:
Nope..one you get away from the Yuppie hell that are the west, and east coast, there are some GREAT deals on land. But sice most of you are more worried about what you DRIVE, as opposed to what you OWN, who cares. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

uhh... we OWN our H2's!!! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif And I am guessing you meant "once" and "since" -- guessing the quality of schools in your area are a reflection of the land prices!

And, I am NOT on the "west or east coast", either!

dochummer

08-16-2005, 01:41 PM

DAMN! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif I knew I should have pushed for the double-wide! Stupid! Stupid! Stupid! (hitting myself on the head) http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif I could've saved so much money! Hmmm....maybe I'll sell my house and move into a double wide...then I can buy cheap land in the middle of nowhere for $500 bucks an acre. I'm sure the appreciation will be great too... Thanks for the great investment tips HD!

You're a WINNER!

DRTYFN

08-16-2005, 01:51 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Hummer destroyer:

I guess you've never had a keyboard fail before... <span class="ev_code_RED">Probably because none of us shoots their jit on it while wanking to e-beaver.http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif </span>

Are you SURE you OWN your Hummer? And not the BANK? So, you dropped cash on the counter, and walked out with a hummer? <span class="ev_code_RED">Semantics. </span>

No, you are even worsethan the EC'ers and WC'ers..you are Texas scum. </div></BLOCKQUOTE><span class="ev_code_RED">Now now, play nice. Don't bring your OTN racism over here or you'll get a paddling... no, there won't be a big hairy guy in assless leather chaps to strap a red rubber ball into your mouth like you're accustomed to. so don't start getting your baby dick all hard, freak. </span>

Peter etg

08-16-2005, 02:03 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LoLo:
Peter -- did you ever get a CarFax on it? I would be very careful buying on eBay... but I know you have already been cautioned on that! Good luck, whatever you do... http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

thanks for the advice. Seller does not have a carfax. I was hoping someone here might be willing to help me out with that.

So please.

Peter

LoLo

08-16-2005, 02:36 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Hummer destroyer:
I guess you've never had a keyboard fail before...

Are you SURE you OWN your Hummer? And not the BANK? So, you dropped cash on the counter, and walked out with a hummer?

No, you are even worsethan the EC'ers and WC'ers..you are Texas scum. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

...looks like you need to keep your focus on the keyboard/screen!

And, I don't need to justify or prove my ownership to you... I can assure you that many of us DO own our trucks and exotics! Regardless... you don't walk out with a Hummer -- best plan is to drive it off the lot!

NOW, you may go back to your spanking!

wilfred

08-16-2005, 05:25 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Peter etg:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LoLo:
Peter -- did you ever get a CarFax on it? I would be very careful buying on eBay... but I know you have already been cautioned on that! Good luck, whatever you do... http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

thanks for the advice. Seller does not have a carfax. I was hoping someone here might be willing to help me out with that.

So please.

Peter </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sorry I don't have unlimited access to CARFAX neither. But I'd be very very careful buying any used car over ebay or anywhere sight unseen http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif I'm sure you've been warned but I had to warn you again.

For this specific vehicle, I clicked around for you http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif and noticed the seller feedback (3rd one) it had an incomplete transaction but take a look at the closing price. Also, I'd question the fact why on earth would anyone sell this vehicle "no reserve" and the current bidding price is well below the trade in value?

In case you are not familiar with the used car market, you can find a lot of info at the following sites:

http://www.autobaron.com
http://www.autotrader.com
http://www.edmunds.com
http://www.kbb.com

By looking up the current market value, at least you'd know if something is extraordinary cheap and if it's too good to be true, it probably is http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Peter etg

08-16-2005, 06:53 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by wilfred:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Peter etg:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LoLo:
Peter -- did you ever get a CarFax on it? I would be very careful buying on eBay... but I know you have already been cautioned on that! Good luck, whatever you do... http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

thanks for the advice. Seller does not have a carfax. I was hoping someone here might be willing to help me out with that.

So please.

Peter </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sorry I don't have unlimited access to CARFAX neither. But I'd be very very careful buying any used car over ebay or anywhere sight unseen http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif I'm sure you've been warned but I had to warn you again.

For this specific vehicle, I clicked around for you http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif and noticed the seller feedback (3rd one) it had an incomplete transaction but take a look at the closing price. Also, I'd question the fact why on earth would anyone sell this vehicle "no reserve" and the current bidding price is well below the trade in value?

In case you are not familiar with the used car market, you can find a lot of info at the following sites:

http://www.autobaron.com
http://www.autotrader.com
http://www.edmunds.com
http://www.kbb.com

By looking up the current market value, at least you'd know if something is extraordinary cheap and if it's too good to be true, it probably is http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Wilfred, thanks for all your help.
I spke with seller on the phone yesterday, and he said that "it was sold" three times now, but the winners did not follow through the deal.
He saids he is sick and needs to sell the car.
I dont know.
I was just now offered a 04 lux w 25000 miles for 37300 from a dealer.
Maybe that is a better deal.

But thanks for helping

Peter

HummerNewbie

08-16-2005, 06:56 PM

Peter,

I did not see what the price was for the other one but I would feel much more comfortable with the dealers offer myself.

hyperion78

08-16-2005, 07:41 PM

HD..... FWIW GFY

W1N

08-17-2005, 08:57 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Hummer destroyer:
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

FWIW, you're a sad inbread fat boy living in the middle of nowhere. You have no point, you can't type and you simply can't cope with normal people. You are living where you were supposed to, far far away from sivilization.

You're actually fun to see around here. You're so easily owned, every time...

RMST

08-17-2005, 03:57 PM

You should be ashamed of yourself for offering such a low amount. The guy was just diagnosd with a sickness for God's sake!

Peter etg

08-17-2005, 04:08 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RMST:
You should be ashamed of yourself for offering such a low amount. The guy was just diagnosd with a sickness for God's sake! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Right. I might as well give the guy <span class="ev_code_RED">60k</span>. Is that what you´re saying?!

RMST

08-17-2005, 05:34 PM

At least 60! I mean a sickness!!!!!

Oh yeah...I almost forgot. I was also just diagnosed with a "sickness". Will you buy my Touareg for 60,000 as well. Thanks. Doctor says buying an H2 is the only cure.

Denny Crane

08-18-2005, 12:08 AM

Great place ya got here Eddie.

Yeah Clark i got it for literally nutin from the Gov. when they stopped the Nuclear testing.

All I know is my teeth have never been whiter and my garden is spittin out 5 lb. tomaters.

Anyone else see a resemblence to Francis' place???

D

HUMMERcustoms.com/TAZ

08-18-2005, 02:45 AM

Destroyer, Sir if I may use Sir. It is not My practice to be rude to anyone on here and I will not start with You. But, Your suggestions for financial planning lends an air of expertise of which I will not bother with asking what Your qualifications are. You do at least seem to have learned the basics of what will go up in value and what will not in the area You bring up.

My good Sir, it is a great acomplishment in life to have made investments that meet Your personal goal and I'm sure they have made you happy. But, different people have different goals in life and therefore are intitled to invest there money in a situation where it appreciates or doesn't. Many investors have thought themselves so very wise. Ask the Hunt Brothers about cornering the silver market.
It really seemed like a good idea at the time one of the brothers were later to be heard saying at one of the sales in which they liquidated property to cover all the longs they had purchased to proceed down that path of personal interest as far as investing is concerned. So mainly in My humble oppinion it is up to the person who made that money to use it in a manner that makes life more interesting and happy for them and not to make You or I happy or to please You and I.
Personally I am able to do most what ever I want as i have invested in ways that have made me happy and My CPA as well. Oh and My financial planner seems to be fairly happy as His bill would indicate I would be if I had paid Myself that much. Nice thing is I can afford to pay Him that much because he earned it by advising Me and making money to earn it. So would you say that is an appreciable asset or a depreciating asset as far as He is concerned. I cannot keep up with all the opportunities out there so that was My answer to that problem. All My decisions have not been rosey as a man would be a liar if He said they all had been good ones. My portforlio is so varied that if one area of the financial world is down I'm most likely making it up on the other end somewhere. Also My personal overhead as far as living is quite meager and surprise most and I keep it that way so that if all the investments I have turn belly up i can go out and get a job to buy food and pay utilities. So I understand investment quite well and never went to school to learn it. I watched people at an early age that had the ability to make money make money for them and not have to do allot but, make the right choice at the right time or just be plain ole lucky.

Now that brings Me to another point and that is that most success not all but most is just happening to be in the right place in the right time and has nothing to do with smarts or knowledge. Allot of it is paying attention though.

I'm glad you do have a handle on how to invest in a way that makes you happy but, the only advice i would like to share is the investment that is right for You may not be right for someone else and vice-versa.

The nice thing about My situation as is many on this forum is that like me they can afford and have already invested to the point where they can be comfortable buying a depreciating toy because they have done so well with buying appreciating investments. I decided at 20 I wanted to retire at 40 which i accomplished with God's blessing. I'm 48 but, found retirement was not as fun as I thought it was going to be. So every few years i start a company and keep it or when the offer get's right I sell it. I have 5 right at this time but, in 30 days could be 0 who knows what lies ahead. So that is now My hobby as much as an investment strategy. There are many many on this forum who are in the same position. True there are the ones who work hard and reward themselves with a nice new or used H2. But, I learned a long time ago that if You do not reward Yourself with a play toy you will loose motivation before You have actual caught Yourself doing so. It is a mental balance that a truely successful person learns to find and it cannot be taught but, has to be aquired.
So I have My new H2 paid for and when I finish customizing it next month I will have over $100,000 in it. Why? Because I can, due to the investments I fortunately made. The nice thing is that because I became interested in this customizing stuff i started a company with a very fine young man and His wife that by nothing i did except just have an interest in the area and is running away like a wild fire. So now the show H2 has become an appreciating investment through the business it brings in but, was not meant to be. So was i smart? No, I was at the right place at the right time. Now I have to buy another new or used H2 to lift it so that We can do that side of the customizing so people can see We do more than bling as well and it will be My daily driver if the shop does not take it away from me for business. If so i will buy another. Why? Because i want one to drive and i cannot help that they keep trying to make me money as an investment. So i will continue to buy one till i can have it for Myself and go off road it with all these good people on this forum when they go to MOAB or where ever.
Destroyer, Sir i hope i have been able to shed some light on the reasoning as to why You can have a toy and still be a good investor and financial provider for Your family.
The people i admire are the ones who love the H2 so much they are willing to work a second job to own one. To me that is not wasteful and not a mark against their character, Oh no just the opposite. They have shown the ability to have a dream and find a way to make it happen with the best possible means available to them.
When I won My state Hummer title last winter, with the H2 We now have so much invested in, the person i felt most proud of there was not myself but, the woman that stood beside her Husband just beeming with pride that he had an H2 yet did not even place in the contest but, She was teared up proud because he was willing to work 2 jobs she told me, so that His family could have something that nice and safe to ride around in with there 2 very little children. No I was not so proud of what I won as I was of that man and the pride and admiration I saw in His wife's eyes of Him just providing them with a dream and great safety as she put it to go out on special occasions to eat, church, or a trip what ever it was. She said We do not drive all the time as We love it and do not want to wear it out to fast. They know it will most likely be the only one they will ever own and like a great rootbeer float You want it to last forever. He asked me if i would work with Him and help Him dress His ride up more and that is how i got into the customizing deal without wanting to. The best way i could help the guy was get things for Him at dealer or distributor cost because He did not have the ability to do much at a time. So i got Myself into a business I never dreamed of being invovled in with a great partner, Dragon.
Now I feel sorry for Him as He keeps telling me he is going to win the state title from me and I appreciate his confidence and the local Hummer owners tell Him it is not going to happen but, He BELIEVES. It is the best part of the human character, to believe and motivate Yourself. His wife told me that he does not ever touch the family money for the H2 even when She has agreed. No He is not rich and maybe the best investment He has is His home and His H2 but, the really great investment is the happiness He has brought to His family and the memories that they will always have because of His sacrifice to invest in a deprecialble toy monetarily but, an appreciable toy for His family for which the happiness cannot be measured.

Oh My credit score is a few numbers from perfect and bounces off perfect on different occasions. Can hurt Your numbers if you do not have some debt and also if You get to many of these card companies running your credit to much will draw number down as well. it does not look good on report to have to many hits on it for credit check. I have credit card companies call Me and ask to let Me have cash advance no interest for life if I follow a certain little rule. They hope that i will use it to purchase with, which I do not and they hope i will miss a payment and int. goes to 19% which I will not as i have a program to see to that. Is it a liablility to take it and make prin. payments only? Put the money in CD's at 3% to 4%. To me no brainer take the money and let their money make money for Me in CD's. You have to be careful not to have to many or it hurts your numbers.
Many ways to let money do all the work for You. Make money make money for you!!!

Peter i think I have some time left on my carfax unlimited i will have to check. If You would PM Me with details i would be glad to get a report and fax it to you.

TAZ

Peter etg

08-18-2005, 06:25 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RMST:
Oh yeah...I almost forgot. I was also just diagnosed with a "sickness". </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I can tell that.

RMST

08-18-2005, 01:54 PM

and i can tell that you are a douche

Peter etg

08-18-2005, 04:19 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RMST:
and i can tell that you are a douche </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

LMHO
This RMST is the funniest guy around !! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif