Hummer Dually

[barbender]

I'm considering converting my H2 to a 4 wheel dually... that's all 4 wheels as dually wheels. Anybody seen this? Any suggestions? Any ideas with the fender flares? I think this would be cool!

[barbender]

I'm considering converting my H2 to a 4 wheel dually... that's all 4 wheels as dually wheels. Anybody seen this? Any suggestions? Any ideas with the fender flares? I think this would be cool!

[ARH1956]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by barbender:
I'm considering converting my H2 to a 4 wheel dually... that's all 4 wheels as dually wheels. Anybody seen this? Any suggestions? Any ideas with the fender flares? I think this would be cool! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
To what purpose? I haven't seen this conversion. I can't imagine any advantage over the stock configuration, but hey, it's your H2.

[Induction Concepts]

Got any pics of such a conversion?

[GeorgeSSSS]

There is a thin line between genius and insanity. We'll have to see what side an 8 wheel H2 might come in on.

Then again, I think you're kidding.

George SSSS

[barbender]

Ok, I got 3 responses in only minutes so I must be on to something... #1 why do we customize our H2's anyway- most of which isn't that functional, but think of the center of gravity and cornering- like a kids Hot wheels car... #2 No I haven't seen this outside my minds eye, but there it looks really cool... #3 I think both a little genious and a little insanity and no I'm not kidding so any good suggestions are helpful. There are dually conversion kits out there.

[ARH1956]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by barbender:
Ok, I got 3 responses in only minutes so I must be on to something... #1 why do we customize our H2's anyway- most of which isn't that functional, but think of the center of gravity and cornering- like a kids Hot wheels car... #2 No I haven't seen this outside my minds eye, but there it looks really cool... #3 I think both a little genious and a little insanity and no I'm not kidding so any good suggestions are helpful. There are dually conversion kits out there. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>#1: If a change isn't functional you've just wasted your time & money, #2: It just sounds goofy looking, & #3: Way low on genius, but overflowing with insanity I'd say. Nevertheless good luck if you pursue the mod.

[VTSTOMPER]

agh, I have seen it on a early 70ish Ford tuck. Would you like me to take pics of it? It was for sale in a town not too far away from me. I am sure it is still there. Just let me know.

[Yetti]

everyone is being willy nilly... its an easy swap if you have all the stuff from a dually , you will need the rotor spacers to convert to the offset rims, that about it besides cutting away your body to make room for the rear duals being pushed up into the fenders. the rears could hard to do only because you don't have a floating rear axle, the duallys all have floaters so the hubs would be harder to convert.

[barbender]

Yes, I would love to see pics of a 4 wheel dually... As for the skeptics, think of the traction, you would get stuck nowhere. Picture a 4 wheel dually Supercharged H2, think of the coolness factor, and I don't think it would require beefing up all the components of the front end... The truck's weight would be distributed over two tires instead of one so the added resistance would hopefully be negated by the weight distribution. At speed, there should be no difference regarding any added stress to the front end steering, I hope.

[barbender]

Thanks for the straight forward answer. Do you think there is enough rear end clearance if I use a dually conversion kit? What about the comment on the front end?

[VTSTOMPER]

Ok, I will try to get over there tomorrow and take some pics. I am not sure if it will still be there, but I will give it a try! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Yetti]

http://wegotmud.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3892.0;id=6383

check out the link and see if you can grasp what it will look like if you do it with your hummer. the dual tires up front won't work for anything but sand and will make it very hard to steer. the rest should be easy...well easy is a relative term. good luck

[Yetti]

http://wegotmud.org/forum/index.php?topic=3892.0

heres the other link

[barbender]

Thanks VT. I'm very serious about this conversion. If you see the guy and can get his number, I'd love to talk with him about any problems he's encountered, but photos only would be more than enough. I've got a car customizer ready to do the fender/body mods. Although financially prohibitive, I would love to cut the H2 body longitudinally and add 15-18" to the width of the body and have no added fender flare, just a widened body, how cool- nobody would mistaken it for an H3 for sure!

[barbender]

Yetti- the links require a log-in so i registered. As soon as they approve me, I'll check them out. I promise to post pics of my HummDually when completed. Thanks.

[HUMMERcustoms.com/TAZ]

Regular power steering i do not think would handle the load so you would need hydraulic which is illegal in most states. To get the axle strong enough to handle hydraulic steering You would need the army surplus axle to hold up to the torque. The factory transaxle i do not think would hold up.
But, that is why there were Einstiens,
Sir Issac Newtons, and such so what do i now i have tried stuff that looked just as impossible before so go for it.
TAZ

[VTSTOMPER]

Well here are the pics of the custom dually! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Kinda back yard job looking at the way they did some things. Check out the welded "add on" parts! LOL!

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[barbender]

Now that's a site to behold! The weeds growing up around isn't a good sign.

[VTSTOMPER]

Yeah, it has been parked for about 2 years now. It looks like a pretty mean truck, and I bet it was wild to ride in after it was built. It looks like it has U.S. issue tires/wheels!

[VTSTOMPER]

Have you thought about these?

http://fuerapiche.eresmas.com/marcas/hummer%2052.JPG

[hyperion78]

^ now those would be fun. Although I think that you can only go like 40 mph on the road with those... and you can't really turn the wheel unless your moving. But if you live in the moutains with snow and mud. That would be the way to go!

[VTSTOMPER]

I think you can pull 70MPH with them! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[barbender]

They would have worked great during last years hurricanes!

[barbender]

VT, in your photos I didn't see any serious beefing up to accomidate the front dually tires other than for lift clearance, did you?

BTW, I'm planning only minimal lift to avoid rubbing the tires on the body. I believe the rear shouldn't be a problem.

I got an estimate for $3500 for the adapters, all chrome alloy wheels and hardware.

I'm going to have the fenders made of fiber glass- bolt on style (first i thought hidden bolts but if the bolts show, it might be kind of a frankenstein military look.

[barbender]

Here's another direction, check out humzilla
[URL=http://www.sslimousine.com/vdisplay.php?fleetid=10]

[barbender]

Here's a photo idea if the hummDually...

[VTSTOMPER]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by barbender:
VT, in your photos I didn't see any serious beefing up to accomidate the front dually tires other than for lift clearance, did you?

BTW, I'm planning only minimal lift to avoid rubbing the tires on the body. I believe the rear shouldn't be a problem.

I got an estimate for $3500 for the adapters, all chrome alloy wheels and hardware.

I'm going to have the fenders made of fiber glass- bolt on style (first i thought hidden bolts but if the bolts show, it might be kind of a frankenstein military look. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


I didn't see anything other than some farm hand "ingenuity". I think that the idea you have can work, and I see the pic you added. You might have to have some custom body side molding done to get it looking correct. I also would leave the bolts showing only to make it look mean, but it is your call. It seems like a huge project, but if your up to it I say go for it!

[Klaus]

I remember reading about these. Looks like the idea never went anywhere...


TwinTire(tm) tyres.

This is an idea from the USA based on the twin tyres used in Western Australia on their police vehicles. It's long been the practice for closed-wheel racing cars, such as Nascar vehicles, to use two inner tubes inside each tyre, allowing for different pressures inside the same tyre. They also allow for proper run-flat puncture capability. Well, it seems that TwinTires have put the same principle into effect for those of us with road-going cars. Their system uses specially designed wheel rims to go with their own unique type of tyres. Each wheel rim is actually molded as two half-width rims joined together. The TwinTires tyres then fit these double rims. Effectively, you're getting two independent tyres per wheel, each with their own inner tube or tubeless pressure. The most obvious advantage of this system is that it is an almost failsafe puncture proof tyre. As most punctures are caused by single objects entering the tyre at a single point, with this system, only one tyre will deflate, leaving the other untouched so that your vehicle is still controllable. TwinTires themselves actually claim a reduction in braking distance too. Typically from 150ft down to 120ft when braking from a fixed 70mph. The other advantage is that the system is effectively an evolution of the Aquatread type single tyres that can be bought over the counter. In the dry, you have more or less the same contact area as a normal tyre. In the wet, most of the water is channeled into the gap between the two tyres leaving (supposedly) a much more efficient wet contact patch. Time will tell whether this system is just a passing fad or if it will take off as a viable alternative to the standard wheel/tyre combos that we all use. Typical tyre sizes are 125/85-R16 and 125/90-R16 (Yokohama and Avon).
For an independent opinion on TwinTyre systems from someone who's been using them since the year dot, have a read of his e-mail to me which has a lot of information in it.

http://www.chris-longhurst.com/carbibles/tyre_bible.html

[I love Caffeine]

Some folks have too much money.

Dual wheels in the front?

Are you kidding?

[ParchedMosquito]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by barbender:
Here's a photo idea if the hummDually... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Holy unsprung weight batman!