Flush The Trolls!

[SJ]

I was one of the first members here to welcome the new wave of trolls with open arms. However, my plea to the trolls was that they conduct themselves in a mature and constructive manner. My diplomacy fell upon deaf ears and I have come to witness a rising wave of negativity and mockery within a majority of all new threads.

I now see some of my fellow members becoming disgruntled and limiting their visits. Well, it is one thing to have thick skin and take the criticism, but the line is crossed when every thread is plagued with insults and antagonistic remarks.

My initial welcoming and cooperative spirit is slowly turning to disgust. I figured, let's give these guys a chance to lend value to this site.

One does not have to like the H2 to be here, but a guest should respect the members of this site as you would when visiting a person's home.

Last, I don't assume that any of my thoughts are shared with the entire board or its "governing body," but I have come to appreciate this site enough to care about its direction.

[SJ]

I was one of the first members here to welcome the new wave of trolls with open arms. However, my plea to the trolls was that they conduct themselves in a mature and constructive manner. My diplomacy fell upon deaf ears and I have come to witness a rising wave of negativity and mockery within a majority of all new threads.

I now see some of my fellow members becoming disgruntled and limiting their visits. Well, it is one thing to have thick skin and take the criticism, but the line is crossed when every thread is plagued with insults and antagonistic remarks.

My initial welcoming and cooperative spirit is slowly turning to disgust. I figured, let's give these guys a chance to lend value to this site.

One does not have to like the H2 to be here, but a guest should respect the members of this site as you would when visiting a person's home.

Last, I don't assume that any of my thoughts are shared with the entire board or its "governing body," but I have come to appreciate this site enough to care about its direction.

[TS]

Ugh.. I have to eat crow and admit I was wrong. The LR guys added no value to the forum.

[hognose]

Perhaps we could convince Jason to add some form of amore robust verification system? Trolls, are like parrots, they bite you simply in order to be entertained by the reaction. Disabling their accounts is simply one of the reactions they expect, and will be proud of. The current system would easily allow them to re-enter with a new username.

[Big Z]

SJ--Couldn't Agree More! Yank The Handle!! Jason. Tired of reading the insults and antagonistic remarks also. Just haven't wanted to stoop to the Primitive Teen level, and respond to any of it.
Wasted effort, arguing with ignorance!

[This message was edited by Big Z on February 06, 2003 at 06:10 PM.]

[Jason]

I am working on getting rid of them all, you all can help.

First, ignore them! Secondly, let me know if they show their heads again: jrosoff@sprynet.com

I have tried to block their IP addresses, delete their posts (may not disappear on your computer unless you clear the cache) and suspend their rights. I hope it works!

Jason

[Steve R]

Let's not overlook the psychological and traumatic effect these guys take on me!!!

With each attack MAC has to up my dosage!

[Zing]

That's what that "X" is for on upper right of the reply box. I've canceled about 20 replies before I sent them over the past couple weeks.

[muskyman]

hey all us trolls over on discoweb want to say truce...and to prove it here

http://www.discoweb.org/discus/messages/27/15574.jpg


peace

Musky:the thinking mans fish

Dirt is for playing roads are for getting there

[DRTYFN]

Poor little disco drivers.
I'd be surly too.

"I smell varmint poontang."

[muskyman]

takes alot to get you guys to smile over here

Musky:the thinking mans fish

Dirt is for playing roads are for getting there

[bklynh2srock]

Muskyman, I thought it was funny. Some people are perenially grumpy.

[muskyman]

thanks bklyn,

I thought it was funny as can be thats why I posted it for you guys.

glad somebody liked it http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

MM

Musky:the thinking mans fish

Dirt is for playing roads are for getting there

[kelleymac2000]

I liked it, but I'll probably be shunned for saying so.

I figured from the get-go that you were going to be the guy that stayed with us. We've had a lot of fun with Mike...even though he's a Jeeper, he challenges us (in a good way) jokes with us, and provides great technical info.

We'll keep you Musky...
http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Kelley

[muskyman]

well thank you kelley, hope I can contribute more then just a photo shoped disco here and therehttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

always nice to be wanted

thom

Musky:the thinking mans fish

Dirt is for playing roads are for getting there

[Big Z]

bklynh2srock--after visiting the discoweb, and reading the H2 posts by these people, I was pissed off also. The Ignorance built up at there forum forced a few to find and flame this site and it's members. Muskyman was one of the primary instigators if you check the posts at discoweb.org. Here are a couple of Musky posts;
yep they suck **** like you cant believe

I laugh at all the guiys that panned me for saying that inthe first H2 thread that came up here.

the truth is I layed under one of these pieces of **** for about an hour right before that first thread and the have so much stamped steel crap and pretend off road in these its pathetic!

just look at that steering rod? thats thinner then the one on my Garden tractor...really it is


Good call Will
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muskyman

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the funny thing is these things suck in serious off roaders...tom pearson jumped into that thread saying he would love one??? his disco would drive circles around one of these things then pull it out of the puddle that stopped it.

its really to bad that AM general sold the name rights to GM. the fact it shares the same name sake as a truley awsome off-road truck like the H1 is just sad.

just wait they will be a dime a dozen in a few years and all those fancy dealerships they built will be selling Camero's and vetts.
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i'm still trusted w/ the h2 crowd
is their any pics or comments need to be posted. Blake, just don't show them any of your ebay auctions, you hear?

Musky, I don't have a substantive thing to add to THIS bb, and you want me to invade the H2'rs???? I'll leave that to Kim, she knows something! LOL!

Karen
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Kim S (Roverine)

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LOLLOLLOLLOLOL!!!!! Nah, I think I'll pass ... Gave them a brief read thru - LOL, tell "Kelley Mac" I'll be lookin' for her and her badazz H2 on the trail, and I do the martial arts, so I can play the fencing game too LOL, ought to be interesting, LOL

Kim

[kelleymac2000]

Between that and the "fish stories" you definitely add value! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Kelley

[kelleymac2000]

Interesting...even their women feel the need to "challenge." http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Whatever. So far Musky hasn't brought that into "our house" and if he ever makes it to California, I'd welcome him to drive my H2 and give his honest opinion. I can't blame folks for being skeptical, but I think it's pretty ignorant to badmouth a truck you don't know much about...

BTW, you might want to tell Kim it's BadaSS. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Kelley

[Big Z]

I Agree! Thought you would get a kick out of the last one (no pun intended)

[muskyman]

big Z

why not post all my posts over there over here

like the ones where I said there are some nice people over here?

I posted the links back to Dweb, i use my same name on both and have nothing to hide.

I call them like I see them.

last week one of my close friends bought a H2

I drove it on a trail our group has set up to test the mods we do and it will show me in 20 min. what any truck will do.

The H2 did just what I thought it would, got stuck twice within about ten feet of where I predicted to my friends.

I'm sorry your offended by me and my opinions

the reason I have kept comming back is I see alot of potential in these trucks and in a number of the people on this forum.

I have enjoyed helping other people learn and enjoy the world of off-roading for along time and I wont stop because a few people dont like me for what I say.

oh yea did you see where I said once the used prices drop way way down I'll buy one and build it? go ahead and post that part too.

I'm going to be doing a straight axle conversion on that brand new one my buddie just bought to solve some of the short commings. We have also measured it for a DOM tubing rear panhard bar. when we are done it will far outperform a stock one.

thom

Musky:the thinking mans fish

Dirt is for playing roads are for getting there

[kelleymac2000]

I just came from discoweb Yes, I registered, so Musky if your friends won't crucify me, I'm going to join YOUR party. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Some of the remarks were taken out of context. Some weren't...but the truth is that no one needs to be so threatened by what someone else SAYS! Take it a little easier. 'Wheeling is 'wheeling, and while I just got to spend a weekend with 34 Hummers (of various persuasions) I'm no less impressed with my Jeep friends. I can't say that I've ever driven a Rover, or 'wheeled with one, but I'm sure that when I do, I'll be impressed with some of it's capabilities. Doesn't mean I'd trade my Hummer, also doesn't mean I have to trash them... http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

We all just need to take it a little easy.

Kelley

[muskyman]

big Z

you seamed to mis this one
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there are some nice people...kelley mac seams like a sweet gal

she just posted this about me



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Wow, okay, you're clearly not 18 like I thought most of you Rover guys were who visited us. I figured you'd be the one we'd "adopt" here...


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i think there are just a few with ego problems that dont want to here that there 50k toy isnt really the badest bad ass on the planet stock

thom

like I said before go read my posts over there there are plenty from the last couple years I have nothing to hide,search my name you'l see what kinda person I am

thom

Musky:the thinking mans fish

Dirt is for playing roads are for getting there

[Klaus]

muskyman,

No, we just take exception to statements such as:

yep they suck **** like you cant believe


Now, did you or did you not make this remark?

[muskyman]

yep sure did...in all kinds of ways such as hard core off-road in my opinion they do.

but unless you know what I do off road that cant be QUALIFIED

if you tried to do what I do off road with a H2 youd say the same thing...sorry its not a personal attack as it seems

Musky:the thinking mans fish

Dirt is for playing roads are for getting there

[Klaus]

Then you owe everyone here an apology, or Jason should trash can you with the rest of the vermin.

[MAC]

Some people are gullible to a fault, the problem is they drag others into the mess. There are people who think OJ is innocent despite the evidences, some thought they could work with the Nazis, some women married mass murderers in the prisons. The trolls continue to be encouraged by few here. The trolls' posts here are loud and clear, Z posted the clear evidences. Yet some are still ready to invite the criminals into their home until someone is hurt or murdered. Those who enjoy the trolls can join their sites and continue the conversation there while keeping this forum free of virus.

[kelleymac2000]

May I point out that it was an H2 person who went to discoweb, read their posts, and then REPOSTED THEM HERE! Even if I were INCENSED by something I read somewhere else, why bring it to a forum already simmering about the group from discoweb???

I repeat what I said about Musky. He's entitled to his opinion, and free to express it wherever he wants. He said those things on discoweb, not here...now I don't always agree with him, and I don't think he's always tactful, but frankly neither am I. I try not to be a jerk on purpose, but sometimes I fail...

We all just need to ease up.

Kelley

[Klaus]

MAC,

You're absolutely right. If everyone were OK, we wouldn't need locks and keys.

Jason is going to have to take the trash out more often. When the trash starts to pile up, the stench is overwhelming.

[JohnnyBoy]

I'm with Klaus.

==================================
'03 Hummer H2 Adv./Lux. Pkgs. Sunset Orange W/Sunroof
Air Spring Susp. Pkg. + 3rd. row seat & DVD System.
http://www.haugens.com

[Big Z]

Well Musky, I took offence to what you, and a few of your group did the other day. But just an example of ignorance, is this statement "its really to bad that AM general sold the name rights to GM. the fact it shares the same name sake as a truley awsome off-road truck like the H1 is just sad." So what are you saying, since gm bought the name rights to Hummer, that it isn't A Hummer anymore?
And as far as the type of person you are, no idea, except what you brought here, and the H2 posts I read over there. What do you expect? A hand shake and welcome aboard? and while your at it, bring some friends, and attack & insult people because of what they choose to drive! Thats Just as shallow as the rest of the un-informed know-it-alls.

[muskyman]

see guys thats the thing your missing

I am not calling any of you names, but all of you have just called me a all kinds.

its to bad you guys are so worried about what people think? I dont care what people think of my rigs. they are what they are. people can call them junk till the cows come home they will still have a place in my garage.

jason read all my posts we chatted back and fourth and i told him I would treat all the people here with respect, and I have not uttered one word of personal attack on anybody here on this board.

but yet you guys keep attacking me because I think the H2 in its stock form lacks what I desire and need in a OFF-ROAD truck.

Musky:the thinking mans fish

Dirt is for playing roads are for getting there

[Steve R]

Somehow I missed this thread. Can you imagine that? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

I'd like to think that we can sum it up as this: We'd welcome anyone who can contribue to this forum in a positive manner. Simple as that. Nobody has a problem with Mike, and he's contributed substantially. Many people here have not yet bought their H2's and some are only contemplating it....not all of us are owners.

While I did not see the Rover-Rage when they invaded, I did expereince the Jeeper-Assualt and can imagine what happened. It's not fun to log-on and find your clubhouse trashed. I enjoy this forum tremendously...when I bought my H2 I did more then just replace a vehicle; I gained a new hobby...and more friends. This is a place where we share our interest and pleasure in owning our H2's...this should not be a place where we feel insulted, attacked or amongst hostile 'invaders'.

Anyone who fails to conduct themselves in a manner consistent with the efforts and theme of this forum should not be allowed to stay.

I have not seen the ugly side of Thom, I strolled along after Jason cleaned up the smut. My experience has been positive: I agrued with him on some issues and found myself better educated about offroading. I don't agree with all he has to say....but MAC teaches us that it's a good thing to disagree (I'm not sure I agree with that?).

I was not happy to read the post Thom put to his list...but I can understand to some degree the desire to show-off to his own kind. I'm going to judge him by what he shows/tells us...and while the start was a bit harsh, he seems okay to me. He gave me some darn good info on tires...and I'll bet he's got some significant insight into other modifications down the line. Any resource is a good thing...just as long as he isn't offending anyone (too much).

Just calling it as I read it. Seems to me he one day will be an H2 owner, much as Mike will too. They're just in a bit of Hummer-denial. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[muddyrover]

nicely said Kelley

[Steve R]

My name is Steve...but you can call me Kelley

[muskyman]

steve,

you have to read my posts...no denial here I will own a H2 at some point . I will buy one and attack it with serious off-road Mods then pound the crap out of it. just like every 4x4 I own.

thats what I buy 4x4's for...i'm just on a different end of the spectrum as most guys. so my opinions seam extreem.

when the 94 disco's came out I told my wheeling buddies I'm gonna buy one when they are dirt cheap...now they are and I do.

i have enjoyed chatting with you steve and I know as this bug bites you more and more you will understand me and this end of the spectrum more and more. thats just how it works.

thom

Musky:the thinking mans fish

Dirt is for playing roads are for getting there

[HeeHaw]

I read this thread TWICE! Musky I don't care what you say or what you drive. Your attacks and dribble are not even interesting enough to me to make me sick (read the other posts as well). I am writing to let you know that there is ONE person out here that does NOT take offense to your comments. I think its funny that you talk trash about the H2, yet you are planning on owning one. Interesting? You still in therapy?

Just kidding dude.... people like you like to talk (type in this case) and I believe you probably don't have anything better to do, neither do I.

I own a WHITE H2 and I am very happy. I have been 4X4 twice and I DIDN'T get stuck nor did I have any problems.

Your comments about the H1 and H2 are.....how should I say this.......are pure jea.......forget it!

Ever FLY FISH for them MUSKY? Now that's worth talking about!

HeeeeeeeeHawwwwwwwwwww

[Steve R]

Thom,

It's all good and I do understand. The thing is, many (if not most) of these people have not been into hardcore offroading and for that matter are not used to being on forums with hardcore kinda dudes like yourself.

It has been my observation, having seen other forums, that most people beat their drums extra hard to get their points across. Much like road-rage, people often find themselves feeling rather protected and anonymous behind the comfort of the keyboard...and so many people have adopted a very aggressive and sometimes abrasive nature when chatting.

This place is different. Everyone here tends to speak as if they knew and will know eachother personally. And that's a good thing...a very good thing. Speak and you'll be heard, offend and you'll be flamed.

Your LR friends sorta paved an ugly path from which you apparently walked in from. I think it's all in the past and would urge you to just keep up the same tone & manner as your last several post have been. I've learned and enjoyed much of what you've written about!

Eventually people will come to know and regard you for your words and input...and they'll overlook the fact that your in denial about how incredibly cool the H2 is...especially in comparison to a poorly engineered unreliable over-rated piece of non-American heap of top-heavy narrow no-departure angle uncomfortable piece of &#@% the LR's are. Just kidding! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Just promise to take me fishing when I'm in your neck of the woods. Did we happen to mention that Kelley was a swimsuit model?

- Steve

[Steve R]

oh yeah...and tell your buddies over there to stop messin' with my H2 pic of me standing point on the hood!

I almost wish I never had posted that! If you must post something....use my "Ho-boots" pic!

[Steve R]

because....DAMN!!

[MAC]

Steve,

Did you read what Big Z posted what the troll is saying about us? Words have meaning, the intention is CLEAR, this is a liar. While few may enjoy these back and forth children's play, but clearly they are making many of your friends here very uncomfortable. I for one do NOT read his posts, but every single time I log on I find his posts everywhere, simply not pleasant for many members here. I myself have no more right than anyone else's to be here, but please kindly consider the discomfort of other people. Thank you.

Big Z's post:

bklynh2srock--after visiting the discoweb, and reading the H2 posts by these people, I was pissed off also. The Ignorance built up at there forum forced a few to find and flame this site and it's members. Muskyman was one of the primary instigators if you check the posts at discoweb.org. Here are a couple of Musky posts;
yep they suck **** like you cant believe

I laugh at all the guiys that panned me for saying that inthe first H2 thread that came up here.

the truth is I layed under one of these pieces of **** for about an hour right before that first thread and the have so much stamped steel crap and pretend off road in these its pathetic!

just look at that steering rod? thats thinner then the one on my Garden tractor...really it is


Good call Will

muskyman

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the funny thing is these things suck in serious off roaders...tom pearson jumped into that thread saying he would love one??? his disco would drive circles around one of these things then pull it out of the puddle that stopped it.

its really to bad that AM general sold the name rights to GM. the fact it shares the same name sake as a truley awsome off-road truck like the H1 is just sad.

just wait they will be a dime a dozen in a few years and all those fancy dealerships they built will be selling Camero's and vetts.
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i'm still trusted w/ the h2 crowd
is their any pics or comments need to be posted. Blake, just don't show them any of your ebay auctions, you hear?

Musky, I don't have a substantive thing to add to THIS bb, and you want me to invade the H2'rs???? I'll leave that to Kim, she knows something! LOL!

Karen

Kim S (Roverine)

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LOLLOLLOLLOLOL!!!!! Nah, I think I'll pass ... Gave them a brief read thru - LOL, tell "Kelley Mac" I'll be lookin' for her and her badazz H2 on the trail, and I do the martial arts, so I can play the fencing game too LOL, ought to be interesting, LOL

Kim

[Steve R]

Hey MAC,

Yeah...I read it, but I figure he was just showboating for his fellow LR's. He did post other things that were favorable about us though. In the end....it's only words and we still drive our bad-ass toys...so it falls into the category of "whatever".

So long as he contributes in a positive manner and gets along with everybody...that's all that matters. Lots of people get off to a rough start and then fall into the pattern. Thus far I've learned something about tires, differentials and a few other things...plus his attitude has been quite contributive and pleasant. He even goes by his name now. He actualy has made some apologies....something certain members of our own haven't been capable of bringing themselves to do.

Besides...it's tradition that we pick-up a resident from each "other brand" attack...look how Mike turned out and he's a swell guy! So I say we give him a shot. If he gets ugly (which I sincerely doubt would happen at this point)...I'll be the first to front a petition to remove him and revoke his inflatble doll.

Oh...and here's one you've got to love: Keep your friends close and keep your enemies closer. Come on MAC, that old-age corporate thing has to get you a bit excited? And how about this....Thom will promise not to "Amen" anything I say for at least 2 months?

Besides...he'll be a good to have around when the Ford, Dodge, Nissan, Mercedes, Porsche and Toyota groups attack.

Can we talk deal? The guy does plan to own an H2 one day.

[Steve R]

Yo Thom,

When your done reading this, get on over to the "Modified" thread asap (please).

[bklynh2srock]

Thanks for the enlightenment, Big Z. For the record, I now stand corrected.

Am I allowed to put bearnaise sauce on the crow I'm eating? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Klaus]

bklynh2srock,

No crow eating is necessary. You just didn't want to believe folks could be this bad.


Steve,

So you don't mind being insulted as long as it was on a different board? Also, what apology are you referring to? I bet you won't find one on the discoweb! No deal here.


This forum was wonderful until about 2-3 weeks ago, when the invaders started showing up. The danger is that the good people will go away if this is allowed to continue. Don't let the backstabbers ruin the H2 Forum.

[kelleymac2000]

muddy rover was referring to my post about three before yours Steve... http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Kelley

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Steve R:
My name is Steve...but you can call me Kelley<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

[Steve R]

I think the forum is just fine, all the "trolls" are gone, and the one guy we somehow retained seems to be behaving and adding good input to the discussion.

As for what he said on the LR forum...probably just showboating, and he did point out some nice things about us. In the end...it's just text on a computer screen.

Last time I assaulted invaders I got flack for it...now I'm trying the more gentle approach and still getting flack. Tough crowd I tells ya...tough crowd!

But like I say....he's the only one left and he's not only being civil, but adding in a positive manner. If you really want me to hate him...I will. Forgive, forget and move on.

[Steve R]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by kelleymac2000:
muddy rover was referring to my post about three before yours Steve... http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

OH shoot....reality sucks. Not one morning goes by where I don't look in the mirror and ask myself "why can't I be Kelley MacNally????

[muddyrover]

nicely said kelley

I love fishsticks w/ hot sauce and tartar sauce

[Steve R]

oh sure....suck-up to the swimsuit model!

[kelleymac2000]

I don't know where you guys got this impression of me... http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Kelley

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Steve R:
oh sure....suck-up to the swimsuit model!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

[kelleymac2000]

Actually, one correction: we now have a couple of "Rover-guys" here. Muddy and Musky... (We seriously need to talk about your names you two.) http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

They both seem stand-up to me. I'd 'wheel with either of them. Of course, that's just my opinion... http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Kelley

[muskyman]

well once again I want to thank you for your support Kelleyhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Hee Haw,

If you really want information on Fly Fishing for musky go tomuskyhunter.com (http://www.muskyhunter.com/acatalog/Online_Catalog_1997_Back_Issues_17.html)and get the March 1997 back issue, there is an article in it that I wrote that will give you a good overview of what it takes to get started in it.

If you are looking for a place to see a hundred small musky to cast at with a fly rod in a single day I can hook you up there as well.

thom

Musky:the thinking mans fish

Dirt is for playing roads are for getting there

[JMoore]

After all the banter on discoweb, I finally had to come over here and register too. Don't be so uptight. Musky knows his rigs. I will try not to be a TROLL.

-John

Beer is the reason we know God loves us.

[SOFTTAILJC]

put all musky's posts on 1 page so i don't waste my time readin all the bull****...i could care less what he has to say...i'm not here to compare disco to h2.or listen to a self professed 4x4 expert.he treats us like we're rich and spoiled,and bought or way to the mud....just don't like the left handed compliments.....musky this is an h2 site...its here for people that like h2's.. i think you just like to stir things up..i'm just tired of the interuptions you bring........soft

[muskyman]

softtail,

maybe you dont get it...i like H2s..I just think that stock they need work to make them truley off-road ready.

see I'm an easy target cuz I'm still here

sorry my passion for 4x4 off-roaders gets under your skin http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Musky:the thinking mans fish

Dirt is for playing roads are for getting there

[JMoore]

I think it's been said before, but do you think your all that different from Land Rover owners. You probably have more in common with them than the owners of other SUV's. I have a 99D2. I'm into wheelin', camping, skiing, boating etc. I decided to register, becuase I too have an expensive toy and thought it might be fun to participate. Though we may have some of the same interest. Some of you guys seem nice, the others a bit uptight!

Beer is the reason we know God loves us.

[HeeHaw]

JMoore, you're right, but there is a very glaring difference in some of the posts you are referring to. You can go back though all the posts here and see that WE do not bash anyone, unlike the trolls! No Need.

I have owned a Rover, Jeep, H2, Tahoe, raised 4x4 and I have nothing bad to say about anyone of them. I don't feel the need to bash other vehicles to make myself feel good about my $60,000.00 purchase. I am not uptight, used to be, but no more. All of these vehicles are great for their entended purpose.

There will always be a debate about what is the best 4x4 out there and most of it will remain unsolved. The current climate around most of these BB's is to be nice to others when it comes to all the vehicle talk, EXCEPT when it comes to the H2. Then folks get a little nasty. I have seen this on other boards. Not sure why, but some folks I have talked to appear jealous, others seem mad at my spending of MY money. Not sure what gives, but it is getting old in a hurry.

Also we have had several folks visit our board to just act stupid here and say things to get folks mad. Make stupid posts, insult the readers here. Very childish!

So don't blame some of us for being a little uptight.

Once someone appears well intentioned or sincere, then we except them and enough of that.

See ya

HeeeeeeeeHawwwwwwwwwww

[kelleymac2000]

Way to go Hee Haw! Nice to see us (all of us) coming to our senses. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif At some point we have to agree to disagree, challenge each other (in as non-confrontational way as we can manage http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif) and ultimately all learn more about 'wheeling in the process. Isn't that what we're all here for? That and Hee Haw's right, to talk to other people who share the passion for Hummers. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Kelley

[kelleymac2000]

Wow, I didn't think you could fly-fish for muskie, MM. Learn something new everyday.

BTW, you asked what was the biggest muskie I've caught in another post: 12lbs. A baby by all standards, and it's my ONLY muskie. (The fight was phenomenal...the only thing better was the silver marlin I hooked into in Hawaii...) Muskie's are tough, and frankly I've not learned all the tricks! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Kelley

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by muskyman:
well once again I want to thank you for your support Kelleyhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Hee Haw,

If you really want information on Fly Fishing for musky go tohttp://www.muskyhunter.com/acatalog/Online_Catalog_1997_Back_Issues_17.htmland get the March 1997 back issue, there is an article in it that I wrote that will give you a good overview of what it takes to get started in it.

If you are looking for a place to see a hundred small musky to cast at with a fly rod in a single day I can hook you up there as well.

thom

Musky:the thinking mans fish

Dirt is for playing roads are for getting there<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

[muskyman]

kelley,

12 lbs is a good musky...then again I think all musky are good ones.

the cool thing about fly fishing for them is that any musky will be a fish that you never forget.

during certain times of the year, such as early spring and fall right after the thermocline breaks up the musky like to sit in water as shallow as 1'. a fly rod is the perfect presentaion to catch these fish.

plus its just plain funhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

thom

Musky:the thinking mans fish

Dirt is for playing roads are for getting there

[JMoore]

I forgot to mention, I'm also into trucks! I am into the utility and what they can do and not the flash. That how I got into Land Rovers and what I admire about hummers. In addition to the D2 I had an 88 Range Rover and several Fords and a Jeep. I've rebuilt engines, modified suspension, exhaust, wiring, rebuilt cooling systems, added lights and other electronics, etc so I hope to have something to add.

-John

Beer is the reason we know God loves us.

[MAC]

Judged by what I glanced through in this topic, by this point, there is no more trolls. The topic has acted as a filter to washed out the rough edges, we are now all properly trained cordial full members of the Hummer Forum. Time for a group hug and gumbaya. Welcome to the Hummer Forum.

[muskyman]

Mac

if that is aimed at me, thanks

thom

Musky:the thinking mans fish

Dirt is for playing roads are for getting there

[kelleymac2000]

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by muskyman:
Mac

if that is aimed at me, thanks

thom

Musky:the thinking mans fish

Dirt is for playing roads are for getting there<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

[MAC]

Muskyman, In many ways, the training was a two-ways street for all of us. Your job was to attack the Hummer base camp, our job was to defend the base. Now there is a cease fire, we are all sitting down together in the new People's Revolutionary Council in the coalition. You have as much right to be here as any one of us. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[muskyman]

well thanks again for the welcome into your camphttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Musky:the thinking mans fish

Dirt is for playing roads are for getting there

[Steve R]

Okay MAC,

I've come to my senses and am ready to fight to the bitter end to defend our Hummer-kind and repel the trolls back from where they came.

I've got my flame-thrower tanked up, my arsenol of SouthPark profanity dictionary at ready and am prepared to do my patriotic duty until my fingers fall numb or my computer crashes! Let's kill 'em all and let AM-General sort 'em out!! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

Say what?? Could it be? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Don't tell me you negotiated a freakin' peace??? You soft-bellied liberal LR-hugger! After all that commotion and emotionally compelling reasons....dude!? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_redface.gif

Okay...taking us back to Defcon 5 and standing down. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

There is only one enemy: those who would try to vandalize and take our vehicles away and erect concrete barriers to close off our great outdoors and prohibit us from using our toys. As you read this, plans are being set forth to close trails and create locked gates...this is where we can find our common ground.

Glad things worked out. Peace and calories!

- Steve

[Mike97ZJ]

I finally just read this thread.

/Sally Field/ You like me! You really like me!

I was surprised to see my name come up so much with positive comments. Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif