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Albie
09-10-2003, 12:57 AM
hey everyone I was skeptical about his product, until some coworkers started to use it and post gains on MPG. I just ordered it today for $70.
I will Keep everyone posted.

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Albie
09-10-2003, 12:57 AM
hey everyone I was skeptical about his product, until some coworkers started to use it and post gains on MPG. I just ordered it today for $70.
I will Keep everyone posted.

http://www.myauto.tv/tfs/images/group.jpg


http://www.myauto.tv/tfs/

NJ H2
09-10-2003, 03:56 PM
I would love to hear it works but the only thing I heard it spins is your money down the drain http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif
Let us know what happens http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Rosco
09-10-2003, 04:13 PM
Isnt this the same thing as the coke can? just glorified..

Albie
09-10-2003, 06:37 PM
Yeah THought these guys were pulling my chain. Till I saw them really have it installed. Only Time will tell. Either way can;t wait to try it out. I will give it a month.

SUTJim
09-10-2003, 07:13 PM
Just a warning Albie,
It doesn't matter if your co-workers showed improved MPG, or if you show improved MPG, there are people on this forum that will harrass you for using it. I remember reading a post a while back on the same device and some of the guys on this forum were relentless.
So I will sit back and enjoy the fun........

Current Chevy Avalanche owner,
future H2 SUT owner

2slo4now
09-10-2003, 07:58 PM
If your looking for a spinning "tornado" intake product. Check out the Airiad helix bore throttle body spacer. It is a post throttle body product which means it works with all throttle angles. The tornado is a pre throttle body product that works best at or near WOT. I sell these spacers in my store and on the 6.0 motor they generally result in 1 mpg improvements with 8-10 hp gains. The Chevy 6.0 is the same as the Hummer. There will be some throttle cable brackets that you will not use. I see them for $95. Forum rules do not allow me to advertise. Therefore I will not sell to anyone as a result of this post. I am just offering free information to fellow H2 owners.

http://www.airaid.com/200-514_chevy.asp

Dan from Alabama

If I did not have a supercharger I would have had a Airaid helix bore throttle body spacer installed the first day I owned my H2.

Rory
09-10-2003, 11:49 PM
I have some honest questions and I'm not trying to say anything bad about these tornado thingy's.

1. With this thing spinning around inside your air intake, is there any significant amount of metal wearing off of the ends of it's shaft to cause accelerated wear to your H2 engine?

2. How do they increase the atomization of the fuel by 'vortex action' when the fuel is not injected into the airstream, but into the combustion chamber?

Please feel free to correct any innaccurate information that I've stated, I don't own an H2 so I'm not as familiar with them as most of you are.

Thanks,

Rory
'94 Hummer
www.roryroberts.com (http://www.roryroberts.com)
St. Charles, MO

2slo4now
09-10-2003, 11:58 PM
good questions Rory

There are no moving parts with either product.

Fuel is injected directly into the combustion chamber your diesel h1. Fuel is injected into the intake manifold prior to the intake valve on the gas burner H2.

Dan from Alabama

Rory
09-11-2003, 01:23 AM
Dan,

OK, I understand it better now. Thanks for the information.

Rory
'94 Hummer
www.roryroberts.com (http://www.roryroberts.com)
St. Charles, MO

Albie
09-11-2003, 09:19 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 2slo4now:
good questions Rory

There are no moving parts with either product.

Fuel is injected directly into the combustion chamber your diesel h1. Fuel is injected into the intake manifold prior to the intake valve on the gas burner H2.

Dan from Alabama<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Wow thanks..... DO you think it will really work?

2slo4now
09-11-2003, 11:09 PM
Albie

I have never installed a Poweraid on a Chevy truck and had a customer complain. Most tell me that they are getting 1-2 MPG better fuel economy and a "noticeable" improvement in performance. Those claims hold true on my wifes Tahoe.

Dan from Alabama

Shoot, if it only helps 1/2 MPG and 5 HP.
Lots of potential for a pittance.

OUSUCKS
09-11-2003, 11:09 PM
For further information on this issue please see my post in the General H2 forum under the post: Is this true about buying an H2?

Albie
09-12-2003, 03:29 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by OUSUCKS:
I got some ocean front property in Arizona........from my front porch you can see the sea....QUOTE]


I don;t get it. was this what you were talking about?

Albie
09-18-2003, 07:20 PM
its in WWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLAAAAA
Testing it out today on my way to Vegas. Will post resualts later today.

LasVegas
09-20-2003, 04:42 PM
Beat you to it Albie! Okay guys, I've followed with interest the debate over the Tornado Fuel Saver. I've had my H2 for 1-1/2 months now. Having flown pretty sophisticated aircraft all my life I'm pretty much in-tune with equipment I operate be it aircraft or truck. I travel the same trip every day..22 miles to and from. The to is slightly down hill and from uphill. It's been a challenge and sort of a game to see what kind of mileage I could get. Over 3 tanks and about 900 miles it settled down at 11.4 mpg...never 11.5 or 11.3 but 11.4 day in and day out and I treat it gingerly timing stoplights, etc. So after watching all the controversy over this "gadget" I decided to buy one and try it. Installed it last night and tested it today. Drove the first "to" leg without resetting the personal mpg. Stayed at 11.4 avg mpg although I really didn't expect it to change in 11 miles when established over 900 miles. So before the "from" trip back I zeroed out the personal avg mpg then drove the "from" trip then the "to trip and the final "from" trip. Total 36 miles. Average MPG -- 13.6! That's 2.2 mpg increase. Now I'm sure this is not completely accurate since it's only 36 miles so I'll give you an update at each fill up. But here's some other interesting observations. I saw 24 mpg instant econ @ 45 mph on flat stretch on cruise control. I saw 52-55 mpg coasting from various speeds. Silly guage but I've NEVER seen that decelerating before. And another clear difference is faster shifts accelerating from stop lights. You know those rediculous RPM's the H2 generates just getting up to speed. It now gets there quicker and shifts sooner. Don't ask me how this works. When I took it out of the box my first reaction was that I had bought that bridge someone was selling. Even though I bought it just for the test I intend to keep it. One note for those of you that might install one in yours. The instructions are pretty simple but wrong for the H2. It tells you to install it in the intake hose downstream of the air mass sensor. If you try to put it in that connection the sensor conflicts with a secure fit. The H2 intake then expands accordian style and the diameter is much larger than the gadget. I installed mine downstream of that in the hard plastic. There's even a protrusion in the plastic that the expansion gap in the gadget fits perfectly. Takes a little fiddling but once it's in it fits great and is secure. Even the instruction say to install it as close to the throttle body as possible.

So there it is guys. Can't tell you the exact theory behind it or the aerodynamics or any of those other things thats been debated. I can tell you I think the silly thing works! So who cares about theory? I'll keep you posted.

Albie
09-22-2003, 03:14 AM
sorry guys i have not data update today. I felt it on my desk at work. But I do Keep track of my MPG every day. I avg 14.5 mpg going to work and 9.4 coming back. So I will keep everyone posted. BTW I avg 14.1 mpg from Vegas to LA this weekend.

LasVegas
09-24-2003, 05:21 PM
Albie... I now have 92 miles of very consistent driving since installing the Tornado and the personal MPG has settled down at 12.7 mpg, an increase of 1.3 mpg. The life of the truck mpg has increased 1 tenth and considering it's being absorbed over 2,000 miles is great. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif After the horrendous flak I got from my post on this subject I wasn't even going to respond further but I was interested in your results. I was just trying to post "useful" information which is what I thought forums were all about. They actually accused me of trying to "hawk" the Tornado. What a joke. SUTJim is right, these people are relentless and take all the fun out of the forum. Maybe they suffer from:

a. Spending the last dollar they could beg, borrow or steal to buy their H2 and can't afford $70 bucks to do a test for themselves.
b. Will type and post anything just to see their words and name on the internet.
c. Fit that email that was circulated alleging
H2 owners buy them to satisfy their inadequacies.
d. Lied about the must be "over 18 year of age" to be a member and have the I.Q. to go with it.

Maybe it's all the above.

Bad Dawg
09-25-2003, 11:09 AM
DiceMan, What other mods have you done to your rig, if any? When you put your Tornado on did you also do anything else at the same time?

You can never have enough horsepower! Yellow LUX, Airforce intake, stainless headers and exhaust, Gobi rack and ladder, roof mounted off road lights, full wrap brush guard, rear light guards, outside tire carrier, Rancho 4" suspension lift, Ultra "EN4CER" 17x9 wheels, Goodyear 37/12.50R17 MT/R tires, removed side-step bars, 9.5ti warn multi-mount winch.

LasVegas
09-26-2003, 03:32 AM
Bad....No, haven't done anything else. Really I just tried this as a test to see if it worked or not. I'm so happy with it I'm going to leave it in. Can't beat a 1.3 mpg increase for $70 bucks! Thinking about a different intake though. How do you like the Airforce intake?

Albie
09-26-2003, 01:35 PM
OK its in.......Drove 13 miles to work and came to the same 13.6....... The true test is driving back home and driving back to Vegas.

Big Z
09-26-2003, 02:13 PM
Albie, Did you Reset your Numbers after the install?

Albie
09-26-2003, 05:37 PM
Nope, should I have? It said you may want to disconnect the bat.

Kevin W
09-26-2003, 06:42 PM
Where did you guys buy this unit from?
Can you post a picture of it installed?

Kevin

2003 Pewter H2, Tire relocator, painted hard tire cover, billet gas cover, MC2 chrome hood handles, stainless bumper letters, 15% tinted front windows,pioneer nav/dvd, xm sat, headrest monitors, tv tuner, defenderworx hood latches, side vents, marker bezels, and chrome MC2 factory style wheels .

Albie
09-27-2003, 12:05 AM
http://www.myauto.tv/tfs/

I can not post pics b/c I lost my camera in Vegas. had over 128 mbs of pics from the Playboy party. Pics of me and hef and Mis october.

Big Z
09-27-2003, 02:47 AM
Albie, I was talking about the Avg MPG indicator.

Dam! to bad on the camera! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Albie
09-29-2003, 02:56 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Big Z:
Albie, I was talking about the Avg MPG indicator.

Dam! to bad on the camera! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes I reset it everyday. and I leave one on for every tank

Dan
09-30-2003, 11:58 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Albie:
...I can not post pics b/c I lost my camera in Vegas. had over 128 mbs of pics from the Playboy party. Pics of me and hef and Mis october.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's it, you're out of the boys club... http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

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Albie
10-12-2003, 01:26 AM
hey drove to vegas today and got 13.1 mpg. also the tank reached 370 miles. will not know the true gains till I drive back home. round trip avg has been 13.6 mpg It mostly downhill going back

ZeroTolerance
10-12-2003, 03:31 AM
Albie, have you seen definite increases after installing this product? I am very interested in doing this to mine as well. I have been seeing about 12.5-13.2 mpg in my H2 and would like to push this up higher if possible...Thanks

H2 Daddy
10-12-2003, 01:28 PM
The only way I can see those kind of numbers is to coast down hill.

Albie
10-14-2003, 01:55 AM
well the round trip avg of 789 miles was 13.3
which was lower than my last ten trips. I hurt myself doing some down hill mountain bike runs at www.bootlegcanyon.com (http://www.bootlegcanyon.com) I let the girlfriend drive back. She was doing around 85 the whole way back. I drive 75. Right now all I can say is maybe .5 mpg increase. I feel the true test will be when my Avg Econ changes. It has been sitting at 12.2 since June. Well keep all of you posted.

H2 Daddy
10-27-2003, 12:10 AM
How about some MPG updates?

VU
10-27-2003, 05:37 AM
Hello all,

Am I installing this thing wrong. Opended up my air intake hose and placed in in, but when I go to put the hose back it pushes the fule saver out and is in the hose area.

Help would be greatly aprricated.

VU