FJ in action

[ALH3]

I thought you would all enjoy this picture! :)

Check out his license plate!http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=21202&stc=1&d=1148254899

[RIC-H0]

I thought you would all enjoy this picture! :)

Check out his license plate!http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=21202&stc=1&d=1148254899
What a PUSS!!!

[DDWH]

Neato!;)

[marin8703]

Does that say H2 or H3 resq? Either way hes dreaming!;)

[DDWH]

Does that say H2 or H3 resq? Either way hes dreaming!;)

I believe it says "IM STUCK"

[rkcrawl]

Hey at least its getting dirty :)

[DDWH]

Hey at least its getting dirty :)

true;)

[Mike E]

I don't think they look to bad but there's no way they can compare it to a H3. Good to see he isn't afraid to try it out and get it dirty!

[DDWH]

I don't think they look to bad but there's no way they can compare it to a H3. Good to see he isn't afraid to try it out and get it dirty!

Yeah someone had to resurect the AMC Pacer....might aswell be toyota:p

[NEOCON1]

Yeah someone had to resurect the AMC Pacer....might aswell be toyota:p


X 1000 :D :D pacer rescue :eek:

[Steve - SanJose]

Sad looking FJ.

S.

[The Green Lantern]

here's my new Fj....enjoy!!!:D :D

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i145/thegreenlanternh3/H3/FR__068.jpg


http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i145/thegreenlanternh3/H3/FR__058.jpg

[deserth3]

They're driving thjrough the mud like they're afraid of getting the undercaraige dirty... If the wave isn't over the roof it aint no fun!!!!

[DDWH]

here's my new Fj....enjoy!!!:D

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i145/thegreenlanternh3/H3/FR__068.jpg


http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i145/thegreenlanternh3/H3/FR__058.jpg

TGL, is yours the stealth green one?!?!?!?!?:D ;)

[NEOCON1]

what happened TGL the muds only half way up your wheel :( take it back :rolleyes:

[The Green Lantern]

what happened TGL the muds only half way up your wheel :( take it back :rolleyes:


sshhhh.... gotta love the color...Stealth Blue!! :D

[blindzebra]

anyone notice that not one of the fjs have mud on the paint? not one.

[The Green Lantern]

anyone notice that not one of the fjs have mud on the paint? not one.

I got some mud pic for yah!! :D


http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i145/thegreenlanternh3/H3/FR__057.jpg

[NEOCON1]

what a cute little ELEMENT :D :D when you gonna line-x the mirrors and $hit

[HummerNewbie]

what a cute little ELEMENT :D :D when you gonna line-x the mirrors and $hit

I have seen some at the dealerships around here that are going for the blacked out look. The wheels I have seen on all of them just look like black steel wheels that are missing hub caps :confused:

[The Green Lantern]

what a cute little ELEMENT :D :D when you gonna line-x the mirrors and $hit


LMAO!! :D hey, don't be hatin'...you haven't seen inside yet?....burberry seat covers and wood grain trim...:D :eek:

[NEOCON1]

i gotta get me some of that wood grain trim :D and line-x it :cool:

[NEOCON1]

look i got a KY cruiser too :D

[NEOCON1]

i made it thru my puddle :D

[The Green Lantern]

look i got a KY cruiser too :D


Congrats Neo...wow looks great!!....:cool: :eek:

[DDWH]

look i got a KY cruiser too :D

That's a shiitty color Neo....Line-X that bish head to toe!:D ;)

[The Green Lantern]

ok, I got my rims powder coated...I'm all set for MOAB...:D :D


http://www.geocities.com/rcbkal/Pickup.jpg

[The Green Lantern]

ok, I got my rims powder coated...I'm all set for MOAB...:D :D



..my new Scion XB SUT!! :cool:

[HummerNewbie]

ok, I got my rims powder coated...I'm all set for MOAB...:D :D

Those look exactly like the blacked out wheels I see on the FJs around here.

[NEOCON1]

:D LMFAO i want one of them :D SUT oh yea moab here we come :cool: custom roof rack hand hold thingamagigs ya got there

[DDWH]

ok, I got my rims powder coated...I'm all set for MOAB...:D :D


http://www.geocities.com/rcbkal/Pickup.jpg

TGL are those 37's or 38's I can't quite get a good reading off the sidewall:D ;)

[The Green Lantern]

I think this is the one who owns the "Mango color FJ" with H2ResQ license plate!... 3rd down..

http://www.fjcruiserforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3236&page=3&highlight=hummer

[Sewie]

I think this is the one who owns the "Mango color FJ" with H2ResQ license plate!... 3rd down..

http://www.fjcruiserforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3236&page=3&highlight=hummer

Figures. He's Canuckian. :rolleyes: :p

[timgco]

We have FJ's everwhere out here now. I have seen at least one every day I'm out driving. They're like rabbits. :eek:

I am looking forward to getting out wheelin with some. I saw a black one with a lift on it last week. It looked good....for a YOTA.;)

LMFAO @ the L Plate.

[HUMRCHIC]

My god those things are UGLY!!! I saw passed one the other day and gagged!:eek: And it was black and chrome with a lift...

[Steve - SanJose]

As KY cruisers go, I think the Element looks better than the FJ.:)

S.

[h2co-pilot]

Gawdammit those things are so ugly.:mad:

[HummerNewbie]

Gawdammit those things are so ugly.:mad:

But there is a rumor going around that you are trading the RX for one :p ;)

[NJHummerGuy]

Was actually looking at the Yaris for my sis-in-law at dealer last week, and walked around the FJ.......talk about a box of ugly! And the price of it....why would you get that when you can get the H3 for just about same price?

[deserth3]

I really dislike the standard white top on the FJ.
Do some internet searches on the Yaris. I've heard they're having some problems. My daughter just bought a Scion XB. Ugly, but it gets 34 miles a gallon and has a whole bunch of room on the inside.

[BlueTJCO]

YOU All sound like a bunch of Jeep owners dissing on the H2.......

:p :p :p

[Tommy36998]

They don't appeal to me.

[DTHVLY]

I thought you would all enjoy this picture! :)

Check out his license plate!http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=21202&stc=1&d=1148254899

This guy made three mistakes, first he got a license plate that says ?H2 RESQ?, then he got stuck in the mud, and finally he took a picture and posted it online. Any two of these wouldn?t have be too bad but all three equals total poser. He should have saved his money for some mods before sporting a plate like that.

Now if the plate would have been on something like this it would have been more believable.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/yotataco/FJrevtek7.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/yotataco/FJrevtek8.jpg

[Sewie]

YOU All sound like a bunch of Jeep owners dissing on the H2.......

:p :p :p

The funny thing is, on the FJ site a bunch of them are bashing Jeeps. :D

[NEOCON1]

i think one of them lil element things would lose its bumper if it tried to pull an H2 :p

[H3 Hummer]

Wow, two pictures of nice winch mounts. The manufactures must know they need it. :D :mad:

[DRTYFN]

I forgot about REVTECH. They're here in Portland and I know one of the guys over there. Better go have a look-see. REVTECH does have some really nice suspension set ups for Toyotas. I remember seeing the set up for the new Tundra BEFORE the truck even came out.

[DennisAJC]

Big fatty tires make any rig look good. I kinda like it.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/yotataco/FJrevtek8.jpg

[NEOCON1]

go for it , the KY forum is waiting for you :p

[inkyblacks]

I just can't get past the white roof of EVERY FJ.

Looks like a bunch of bald eagles.

[wannabeH3]

im gonna get FJRESQ

[Huck BB62]

im gonna get FJRESQ

Why waste your money on a vanity plate that advertises Jap Junk? That and you're GUARANTEEing that you'll probably be stuck or broke the only time a Toy group happens to be in the area! (karma kinda works that way!):cool:

[lance-n]

The white tops are good in hot and sunny climates. My friend bought a black one and the only thing that saved him is the white top! His is lifted with some lights on the roof rack and traffic just clears out of the way for him! The truck looks great, but he did get some aluminum rims, 20's with 33" tires. Why somebody would put 20's on an offroad vehicle is beyond me! Looks pretty silly.

[Klint]

lance I have 22's on my H3 lol

[Sewie]

lance I have 22's on my H3 lol

Why somebody would put 20's on an offroad vehicle is beyond me! Looks pretty silly

nuff said :rolleyes: ;)

[The Green Lantern]

I got them 22's, I think they're pretty cool on my new Voodoo Blue I really like them...sweeettttt!!! :D

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i145/thegreenlanternh3/H3/fj.jpg

[DTHVLY]

I forgot about REVTECH. They're here in Portland and I know one of the guys over there. Better go have a look-see. REVTECH does have some really nice suspension set ups for Toyotas. I remember seeing the set up for the new Tundra BEFORE the truck even came out.

Yeah I never really checked out Revtek when I was in PDX, didn't really like the spacer lift but they tested there stuff in Moab so it can't be to bad. The guys who made the bumper and sliders, Landcruisers NW are located under the Markum Bridge down by OMSI. http://www.landcruisernw.com/


http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/yotataco/FJ%20Revtek/fjmoab11.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/yotataco/FJ%20Revtek/fjlions2.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/yotataco/FJ%20Revtek/fjyellow2.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/yotataco/FJ%20Revtek/fjcrack.jpg

[NEOCON1]

to bad they get stuck in the sand :p

[DRTYFN]

I'm sure I'll have no problem picking up all the guys. :tramp:

Fissed

[DennisAJC]

Yeah I never really checked out Revtek when I was in PDX, didn't really like the spacer lift but they tested there stuff in Moab so it can't be to bad. The guys who made the bumper and sliders, Landcruisers NW are located under the Markum Bridge down by OMSI. http://www.landcruisernw.com/


http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/yotataco/FJ%20Revtek/fjmoab11.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/yotataco/FJ%20Revtek/fjlions2.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/yotataco/FJ%20Revtek/fjyellow2.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/yotataco/FJ%20Revtek/fjcrack.jpg


Me likey!:cool: Just not too thrilled about that departure angle.

[DTHVLY]

Me likey!:cool: Just not too thrilled about that departure angle.

It's around 35 with the lift and with a Bentup Fab bumper you can kiss the rocks with no worries.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/yotataco/FJ%20Mods/19ae7ed3.jpg

or you could go with the new Fab Four bumper, the 39" don't hurt either.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/yotataco/FJ%20Mods/fabfour2.jpg

[HummerNewbie]

or you could go with the new Fab Four bumper, the 39" don't hurt either.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/yotataco/FJ%20Mods/fabfour2.jpg

Hey look, it's the first FJ Trailer Queen :p

[NEOCON1]

it will still look like this on the beach :p




thats how moded you have to be to play with us hummers :p

[NEOCON1]

Hey look, it's the first FJ Trailer Queen :p


oh yea theres a queen alright but its the driver " death valley " he is the KY QUEEN :o :p :eek:

[DTHVLY]

If I were an H3 owner I would be pissed to that there is so much off-road aftermarket support for the FJ after only 3 months and next to nothing for the H3 after over a year, but just keep telling yourself "the H3 dousn't need it because it's like nothing else."


http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/yotataco/FJ%20Revtek/i10022_1.jpg
No mater how you try to justify it,/\This will never be as capable as this\/ for the same price no less.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/yotataco/FJ%20Revtek/96dcd559.jpg

[Huck BB62]

You just keep telling yourself that. What's your crawl ratio again? How 'bout that turning radius? Lift kit, 37" tires and an iron front diff from a ZR2 with an elocker and the H3's done and it doesn't look like a redneck dressed up a Pacer!
http://www.vincewylde.com/photo/images/4X4Pacer1%20400.jpg

[NEOCON1]

You just keep telling yourself that. What's your crawl ratio again? How 'bout that turning radius? Lift kit, 37" tires and an iron front diff from a ZR2 with an elocker and the H3's done and it doesn't look like a redneck dressed up a Pacer!
http://www.vincewylde.com/photo/images/4X4Pacer1%20400.jpg


X2 Huck thats the KY prototype then they painted all the lil roofs white for all the mall runners to enjoy :eek:

we will stick with these lil slummers , look :cool:

[NEOCON1]

hittin it TGL style :D :cool:

[HummerNewbie]

If I were an H3 owner I would be pissed to that there is so much off-road aftermarket support for the FJ after only 3 months and next to nothing for the H3 after over a year, but just keep telling yourself "the H3 dousn't need it because it's like nothing else."


You sure must think we spend half the time worrying about the FJ that you spend worrying about the H3. Is it cool there is so much after market available for the FJ already, yes. Am I piss? PLEASE, not a chance. Maybe a little jealous of the aftermarket but pissed, hell no. Would I like to see more aftermarket for the H3 than there is, you bet, but even if you couldn't even get better tires for it I wouldn't trade my H3 for an FJ, period. I have to laugh whenever one of you cry babies goes on and on about how your vehicle of choice is better that you all have to bring of the market line "Like Nothing Else". Are you all such idiot that you think Hummer owners are running around town saying this? :rolleyes:



http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/yotataco/FJ%20Revtek/i10022_1.jpg
No mater how you try to justify it,/\This will never be as capable as this\/ for the same price no less.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/yotataco/FJ%20Revtek/96dcd559.jpg

Funny how that in your blind race to prove the FJ is better, you have to compare a base or lux model with chrome options and no off road package to a very obviously modified FJ. So in other words you are admitting that you have to mod an FJ to compete against an H3 that doesn't even have a locker. I would put a stock or similarly modified H3 against an FJ of the same any day. I also like how you, just like every jealous Hummer troll had to throw in the price difference. So we paid a little extra for something that wasn't ugly, I'm fine with that.

[hmrlvr]

So we paid a little extra for something that wasn't ugly, I'm fine with that.
:D :D ;) :D :D
NUF SAID!!!!

[Sewie]

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/yotataco/FJ%20Revtek/i10022_1.jpg
No mater how you try to justify it,/\This will never be as capable as this\/ for the same price no less.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/yotataco/FJ%20Revtek/96dcd559.jpg

Umm, I'd love to see the price tag on that FJ after all the mods. :rolleyes:

[HIHUMMER]

You sure must think we spend half the time worrying about the FJ that you spend worrying about the H3. Is it cool there is so much after market available for the FJ already, yes. Am I piss? PLEASE, not a chance. Maybe a little jealous of the aftermarket but pissed, hell no. Would I like to see more aftermarket for the H3 than there is, you bet, but even if you couldn't even get better tires for it I wouldn't trade my H3 for an FJ, period. I have to laugh whenever one of you cry babies goes on and on about how your vehicle of choice is better that you all have to bring of the market line "Like Nothing Else". Are you all such idiot that you think Hummer owners are running around town saying this? :rolleyes:




Funny how that in your blind race to prove the FJ is better, you have to compare a base or lux model with chrome options and no off road package to a very obviously modified FJ. So in other words you are admitting that you have to mod an FJ to compete against an H3 that doesn't even have a locker. I would put a stock or similarly modified H3 against an FJ of the same any day. I also like how you, just like every jealous Hummer troll had to throw in the price difference. So we paid a little extra for something that wasn't ugly, I'm fine with that.

Nicely put Newbie! :D

[DDWH]

I really like this pic!! :D

HAHA thats classic!:D

[Steve - SanJose]

FJ = Pacer ? ! ? !

[DDWH]

FJ = Pacer ? ! ? !

Yes

Pacer = FJ!

[The Green Lantern]

Yes

Pacer = FJ!

Com'on guys.... this one is!! ---

[Sewie]

Com'on guys.... this one is!! ---

OMFG!! :D :D

[HummerNewbie]

Com'on guys.... this one is!! ---

LMAO :D

You are getting pretty good at chopping :p

[NEOCON1]

OMFG!! :D :D


X2

lmao :D

[ETD]

Yeah I never really checked out Revtek when I was in PDX, didn't really like the spacer lift but they tested there stuff in Moab so it can't be to bad. The guys who made the bumper and sliders, Landcruisers NW are located under the Markum Bridge down by OMSI. http://www.landcruisernw.com/



http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/yotataco/FJ%20Revtek/fjlions2.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/yotataco/FJ%20Revtek/fjyellow2.jpg


Got to love that. Photochop-chopping an FJ (and a spotter!) onto Lion's Back.:rolleyes: LOL
Neo, please send the guy some real photo's of the H3 in action on Lion's Back. :)

[DTHVLY]

Got to love that. Photochop-chopping an FJ (and a spotter!) onto Lion's Back.:rolleyes: LOL
Neo, please send the guy some real photo's of the H3 in action on Lion's Back. :)

I guess these are photochops too. Nice try though. Just keep chanting your mantra: Hummer Like Nothing Else, Hummer Like Nothing Else...

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/yotataco/FJ%20Revtek/fjlions7.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/yotataco/FJ%20Revtek/fjlions.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/yotataco/FJ%20Revtek/fjlions4.jpg

[DTHVLY]

Last time I checked, there's nothing difficult on that climb. Just nerves.
Can we see picks from Steel Bender, Golden Spike, Hell's, Kane Creek or anything close to those? Be sure to include a few obstacles.

Thanks.

I never said LB was difficult just proving that those wern't photochops. The other Moab pics have already been posted in other FJ threads, try a search.

[DTHVLY]

Obstacles like Hell's Gate are fine:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/yotataco/fjhellsgate.jpg

[HummerNewbie]

I guess these are photochops too. Nice try though. Just keep chanting your mantra: Hummer Like Nothing Else, Hummer Like Nothing Else...

You know it really amazes me that I rarely her a Hummer owner say that but all the butt hurt troll run around saying it all the time. Too many idiots running around that can not tell the difference between what the owners feel and think versus what the marketing people feel and think :rolleyes:

I never said LB was difficult just proving that those wern't photochops. The other Moab pics have already been posted in other FJ threads, try a search.

Those pics don't prove a damn thing. I have seen photochops that were a hell of a lot harder than to make those if they were chops. I believe they are real but they don't prove anything.

[HummerNewbie]

Everyone notice in that dumbass pic that those are corporate tags......certainly not someone's daily ride.

S

Almost every pic he has posted have been of Yota team whatever they call it or aftermarket manufacturers vehicles :rolleyes:

[NEOCON1]

my H3 will kick the $hit out of any fj / KY cruiser you got , i dont care if all you can post are factory team shots or not i will FHUKK your junk up :cool:

[Ipedog]

my H3 will kick the $hit out of any fj / KY cruiser you got , i dont care if all you can post are factory team shots or not i will FHUKK your junk up :cool:

ROFLMAO! :D :D :D :D

[The Green Lantern]

LMAO!!!! :D :D

[DTHVLY]

my H3 will kick the $hit out of any fj / KY cruiser you got , i dont care if all you can post are factory team shots or not i will FHUKK your junk up

Nice photochop but the US Special Forces actually use Toyota Tacoma's in Afghanistan and Iraq. You'll never see an H3 do this stuff and these arn't photochops. Now who's gonna get fuked up?...that's what I thought.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/yotataco/Tacoma/20020315_00120_sm.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/yotataco/Tacoma/20020315_00111_sm.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/yotataco/Tacoma/BFA_afghanistan_sm.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/yotataco/Tacoma/hardcore_sf_dudes_sm.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/yotataco/Tacoma/Militarytacorandy2.jpg
What, no one want's to pose with the HMMVVE on the hill?

[NEOCON1]

Dual antenna mounts
Winch
Deep water fording kit
Troop seats (8 soldiers)
Crew and cargo area canvas
Arctic kit
Countermine armor kit
Hard top and doors
Central tire inflation system (CTIS)
Desert filtration package
Lightweight weapons station kit
Driveline protection kit
Spare tire carrier
Bulkhead spare tire kit
Jerry can carrier
Brush & headlight guards
Special paints
Metric gauges
Pedestal weapons mount
Air conditioning
Infrared driving light
Special Ops configuration

[NEOCON1]

i love tacos they taste like carne asada :p :p :D can i try droping one ???????

[The Green Lantern]

die thread, die!!!!

[NEOCON1]

he will be back with more schizophrenic KY blabber unless he stays on the taco kick :p

[NEOCON1]

TGL i love this one its a real " TACO KILLER " f250 :p :D

[The Green Lantern]

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i145/thegreenlanternh3/H3/143322630_b7d927d73c.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i145/thegreenlanternh3/H3/136730967_8e99563222.jpg

[The Green Lantern]

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i145/thegreenlanternh3/H3/128817245_9569dcd8e8.jpg

[Donkey_Kong]

I think H3ers are smoking too much crack.

H3 vs FJ? - YES

H2/H1 vs FJ - Definitely NO

H3 was built to compete with the lower class rigs like FJ, TJ, Liberty, Grande Vitara.

You may disagree but you get what you pay for. An FJ can out perform an H3 but definitely would not to an H2 or H1.

That's life and that's why H3 is dirt cheap.

[NEOCON1]

I think KYers are smoking too much crack.

Freelander vs FJ? - YES

H3/H2/H1 vs FJ - Definitely NO

fj was built to compete with the lower class rigs like elements , TJ, Liberty, Grande Vitara.

You may disagree but you get what you pay for. An FJ can out perform an Element but definitely would not to an H3 , H2 or H1.

That's life and that's why KY is dirt cheap.

i totally agree :p ;) :D

it just sucks that well equiped H3's cost as much as a used H2 or beat H1 @ $40k . arent KY's like in the low $20K range ;)

[DTHVLY]

You dickweed. The only reason we use things like tacos in country is because we can blend. Hilux's are rampant over there and having a taco running around won't stand out like a normal military vehicle.

It's a common tactic. If H3's were a common vehicle in an arena then it would make a superb choice, sport.

The idea that the military would ever use H3’s is laughable at best. I can hear it now: potential conversation overheard between two H3 occupants in a combat zone.

Driver - Hey keep your dirty boots off the H3’s carpet.
Shotgun - Oh no, here comes the insurgents, push the 4wd button and lets get out of here.
Driver - Wait I heed to open the door so I can adjust my power leather seat first, ok here we go.
Shotgun – We don’t have enough power to out run them.
Driver – It doesn’t matter anyway we just ran over a rock and blew the rear differential.
Shotgun – Nooooooooo…

If you actually think the H3 is as rugged and reliable as 1st generation Tacoma’s your dreaming.

You know how no matter what you’re talking about there’s always that one guy who has some ignorant commit or comeback? You’re that guy, no matter what it is you always have a dumb ass commit or comeback, and I’m sure some on this forum would agree.

One other thing, using the term “sport” is totally played. How many years have you been using that on this forum? You don’t use that in regular conversation do you?

[DTHVLY]

Dual antenna mounts
Winch
Deep water fording kit
Troop seats (8 soldiers)
Crew and cargo area canvas
Arctic kit
Countermine armor kit
Hard top and doors
Central tire inflation system (CTIS)
Desert filtration package
Lightweight weapons station kit
Driveline protection kit
Spare tire carrier
Bulkhead spare tire kit
Jerry can carrier
Brush & headlight guards
Special paints
Metric gauges
Pedestal weapons mount
Air conditioning
Infrared driving light
Special Ops configuration

You can spare me the HMMWV pics and specs; I drove them for six years while serving in a USAF CBCS, that’s Combat Communication Squadron for you civilians that don’t know. I’ve got to admit I wasn’t impressed; the HMMWV’s were underpowered and unreliable at best. I really preferred the M-1083 5 ton truck, it was much smoother, it was reliable, easy to service, had great get up and go even when towing, and could fjord 6 feet of water to boot.

You’re comparing a Mil. Spec. vehicle like the HMMWV to a civilian Tacoma or FJ? I guess that says a lot about the ruggedness and reliability of Toyota’s.

[HummerNewbie]

You know how no matter what you?re talking about there?s always that one guy who has some ignorant commit or comeback? I'm that guy, no matter what it is I always have a dumb ass commit or comeback, and I?m sure everyone on this forum would agree.

:iagree: :iagree: :iagree:

[Scouts Out]

And by the way, I hope the ODA pics you posted are not yours since the faces are showing....

[H3slate]

Looks like they are too busy coming up with cute license plates to go wheeling.

[NEOCON1]

Hummers :beerchug: KY's :twak: LMFAO

[Sewie]

The FJ "Trail Team" was at Deer Valley on Labor Day. I pulled over to let a couple of them pass in the other direction. As he's going by, one of the drivers says to me, "Its nice to see someone actually wheeling those things." :rolleyes:

My reply: "Funny, we say the same thing about you guys." :jump:

BTW, they only went about 1/3 of the way up the trail. :yawn: They skipped out on all the rock gardens. :OWNED:

[KenP]

BTW, nice use of a forged IP.:rolleyes:HAHA!!!1one What a dumbass. Like we can't figure that out.:OWNED:

http://neoliquid.com/pwn3d.gif

[NEOCON1]

The FJ "Trail Team"
My reply: "Funny, we say the same thing about you guys." :jump:

BTW, they only went about 1/3 of the way up the trail. :yawn: They skipped out on all the rock gardens. :OWNED:


LMAO :beerchug:

[wpage]

FJ's are for Communists!

[usetosellhummer]

still waiting for one to come play off-road. get real man. Hummer is it all others are a day late and a dollar short.

[The Green Lantern]

..can't wait for the Lexus version....lol :jump:

[PARAGON]

still waiting for one to come play off-road. get real man. Hummer is it all others are a day late and a dollar short.

Perhaps if you got offroad yourself, you might see one.

[BlueHUMMERH2]

Ok, this is really coming as an extention of the "If you drive an FJ, you might be a sissy" thread:

I have indeed wheeled with an FJ. Here are the videos:
http://media.putfile.com/FJ1
http://media.putfile.com/FJ2
http://media.putfile.com/FJ3

Now, I'm being as objective as possible from what I've observed. I think, in the hands of a good operator, the FJ would equal an H3 with an equally good operator.

However, in the hands of a novice, the FJ and Wrangler do fare more poorly than the H3. The H3 (any Hummer actually) has an ability to make a novice driver into a somewhat skilled operator. I do not know if it is the traction systems, the feeling of being behind the wheel of a "Hummer", or simply the entire vehicle systems operating together. Having followed Wranglers (most raised, and otherwise modded) for two weekends now, and FJ's for one, the amount of damage and difficulty incurred by novice drivers is much higher in both vehicles than in any Hummer. However, with a skilled operator, the Wrangler is MORE capable at a location such as Paragon, due to the width of a Hummer, the length of the wheelbase, and the proximity of trees. A Hummer has a more difficult time because it has to take a more difficult line. So at a place like Paragon, a Wrangler is more.... eh, not capable, but has more room to pick an easier line, or avoid the more difficult section of the advanced trails. The Hummer has very little choice, as there is usually a factor that forces it to choose the only available line (like trees, cliffs, etc.) And when I say Wrangler, I mean one that you can still drive home legally and comfortably at the end of the day. No trailering.

Now in comparision to the FJ, I had that yellow one above following me at Paragon. It was noisy as hell to start with, more so than the H1, and sounded like a horrible go-kart, and not the nice rumble of a diesel. But I think that if a skilled driver had been in the vehicle, it would have been just fine. The guy in that one didn't even take the steps off, so I suppose that would tell us something about his experience off-highway.

I'd still take the H3, merely for the 4 doors and, IMHO, good looks. I would NOT choose a Wrangler. Even those that were moderately lifted with bigger tires and whatnot struggled where I did not, took a beating, and were a lot more tippy. The reason some Wranglers performed so well, IMHO, is in direct relation to three factors:

1. Width, wheelbase, and ability to avoid the difficult line.
2. Driver experience.
3. Less concern for the preservation of sheet metal and vehicle operability.

I still would like more experience with some stock FJ's on the trail operating alongside stock H3's. I still believe, from what little I've seen, that they would be a fair match. I could make a determination only after such a comparison, which I think has yet to occur with any members on this forum.

[PARAGON]

Ok, this is really coming as an extention of the "If you drive an FJ, you might be a sissy" thread:

I have indeed wheeled with an FJ. Here are the videos:
http://media.putfile.com/FJ1
http://media.putfile.com/FJ2
http://media.putfile.com/FJ3

Now, I'm being as objective as possible from what I've observed. I think, in the hands of a good operator, the FJ would equal an H3 with an equally good operator.

However, in the hands of a novice, the FJ and Wrangler do fare more poorly than the H3. The H3 (any Hummer actually) has an ability to make a novice driver into a somewhat skilled operator. I do not know if it is the traction systems, the feeling of being behind the wheel of a "Hummer", or simply the entire vehicle systems operating together. Having followed Wranglers (most raised, and otherwise modded) for two weekends now, and FJ's for one, the amount of damage and difficulty incurred by novice drivers is much higher in both vehicles than in any Hummer. However, with a skilled operator, the Wrangler is MORE capable at a location such as Paragon, due to the width of a Hummer, the length of the wheelbase, and the proximity of trees. A Hummer has a more difficult time because it has to take a more difficult line. So at a place like Paragon, a Wrangler is more.... eh, not capable, but has more room to pick an easier line, or avoid the more difficult section of the advanced trails. The Hummer has very little choice, as there is usually a factor that forces it to choose the only available line (like trees, cliffs, etc.) And when I say Wrangler, I mean one that you can still drive home legally and comfortably at the end of the day. No trailering.

Now in comparision to the FJ, I had that yellow one above following me at Paragon. It was noisy as hell to start with, more so than the H1, and sounded like a horrible go-kart, and not the nice rumble of a diesel. But I think that if a skilled driver had been in the vehicle, it would have been just fine. The guy in that one didn't even take the steps off, so I suppose that would tell us something about his experience off-highway.

I'd still take the H3, merely for the 4 doors and, IMHO, good looks. I would NOT choose a Wrangler. Even those that were moderately lifted with bigger tires and whatnot struggled where I did not, took a beating, and were a lot more tippy. The reason some Wranglers performed so well, IMHO, is in direct relation to three factors:

1. Width, wheelbase, and ability to avoid the difficult line.
2. Driver experience.
3. Less concern for the preservation of sheet metal and vehicle operability.

I still would like more experience with some stock FJ's on the trail operating alongside stock H3's. I still believe, from what little I've seen, that they would be a fair match. I could make a determination only after such a comparison, which I think has yet to occur with any members on this forum.

I think I've stated this before. Your opinion has as much impact as an ant's fart. Why waste the finger strength?

[BlueHUMMERH2]

I don't seem to have any problem loading them, nor have any others. They're about 20-25Mb.

[BlueHUMMERH2]

Norton Internet Security has zero issues. Nor does McAfee. I appreciate your concern, but the files appear, by all reputable sources, to be virus-free. I'm sorry, but it looks like everyone will be able to view them.

[Wisha Haddan H3]

Ok, this is really coming as an extention of the "If you drive an FJ, you might be a sissy" thread:

I have indeed wheeled with an FJ. Here are the videos:
http://media.putfile.com/FJ1
http://media.putfile.com/FJ2
http://media.putfile.com/FJ3

Now, I'm being as objective as possible from what I've observed. I think, in the hands of a good operator, the FJ would equal an H3 with an equally good operator.

However, in the hands of a novice, the FJ and Wrangler do fare more poorly than the H3. The H3 (any Hummer actually) has an ability to make a novice driver into a somewhat skilled operator. I do not know if it is the traction systems, the feeling of being behind the wheel of a "Hummer", or simply the entire vehicle systems operating together. Having followed Wranglers (most raised, and otherwise modded) for two weekends now, and FJ's for one, the amount of damage and difficulty incurred by novice drivers is much higher in both vehicles than in any Hummer. However, with a skilled operator, the Wrangler is MORE capable at a location such as Paragon, due to the width of a Hummer, the length of the wheelbase, and the proximity of trees. A Hummer has a more difficult time because it has to take a more difficult line. So at a place like Paragon, a Wrangler is more.... eh, not capable, but has more room to pick an easier line, or avoid the more difficult section of the advanced trails. The Hummer has very little choice, as there is usually a factor that forces it to choose the only available line (like trees, cliffs, etc.) And when I say Wrangler, I mean one that you can still drive home legally and comfortably at the end of the day. No trailering.

Now in comparision to the FJ, I had that yellow one above following me at Paragon. It was noisy as hell to start with, more so than the H1, and sounded like a horrible go-kart, and not the nice rumble of a diesel. But I think that if a skilled driver had been in the vehicle, it would have been just fine. The guy in that one didn't even take the steps off, so I suppose that would tell us something about his experience off-highway.

I'd still take the H3, merely for the 4 doors and, IMHO, good looks. I would NOT choose a Wrangler. Even those that were moderately lifted with bigger tires and whatnot struggled where I did not, took a beating, and were a lot more tippy. The reason some Wranglers performed so well, IMHO, is in direct relation to three factors:

1. Width, wheelbase, and ability to avoid the difficult line.
2. Driver experience.
3. Less concern for the preservation of sheet metal and vehicle operability.

I still would like more experience with some stock FJ's on the trail operating alongside stock H3's. I still believe, from what little I've seen, that they would be a fair match. I could make a determination only after such a comparison, which I think has yet to occur with any members on this forum.
I can imagine that in the hands of the same skilled driver the FJ and H3 would perform similarly. Or even that a more skilled driver could take the FJ where a novice couldn't drive the H3. But there's no substitute for wheeling with both trucks at the same time over the same obstacles ... which as you said, no one's seen on this forum yet.

I do think some vehicles take better care of a driver than others, since throttle control, steering input, brakes and traction control are all controlled (or modified) by programming any more. Can't say if hummers take care of you better than jeeps, but it's head and shoulders above my old Blazer ZR2 (which took me up Radical Road and many other serious trails along the divide).

Thanks for the FJ videos. Didn't seem to do well, but I think driver skill was a HUGE factor there. Nice to see an FJ wheeling tho :)

[Wisha Haddan H3]

Norton Internet Security has zero issues. Nor does McAfee. I appreciate your concern, but the files appear, by all reputable sources, to be virus-free. I'm sorry, but it looks like everyone will be able to view them.

I use the ZoneAlarm Security Suite and Spysweeper and had no problems with your links. Took a long time for my DSL to download, but that's due to file size and server speed.

[BlueHUMMERH2]

I use the ZoneAlarm Security Suite and Spysweeper and had no problems with your links. Took a long time for my DSL to download, but that's due to file size and server speed.

I can imagine that in the hands of the same skilled driver the FJ and H3 would perform similarly. Or even that a more skilled driver could take the FJ where a novice couldn't drive the H3. But there's no substitute for wheeling with both trucks at the same time over the same obstacles ... which as you said, no one's seen on this forum yet.

I do think some vehicles take better care of a driver than others, since throttle control, steering input, brakes and traction control are all controlled (or modified) by programming any more. Can't say if hummers take care of you better than jeeps, but it's head and shoulders above my old Blazer ZR2 (which took me up Radical Road and many other serious trails along the divide).

Thanks for the FJ videos. Didn't seem to do well, but I think driver skill was a HUGE factor there. Nice to see an FJ wheeling tho

Thank you for your refreshingly honest, level-headed, polite and sensible opinions. :) I'm glad you liked the FJ vids. I hope that on the next trip to Paragon I can get some more. Maybe with an H3 following behind!

[ZigsRig]

[quote=PARAGON]You are still an idiot. quote] = fat aggression release :yawn:

[Wisha Haddan H3]

You are still an idiot. You can scale it down to whatever parameters you want to. The facts remain.

It doesn't matter how YOU draw the comparison. Even on the same obstacle with the same driver. You will simply say the lines were different, the humidity changed, or the wind was blowing a different direction.
No paragon, you're mistaken. The fact remains that between the two of us, I'm the only one who has explained and defended his position on the FJ and H3 or been open-minded enough to consider the other's point of view.

I don't need the H3 to be the better wheeler. I'm ready accept the FJ as a better stock wheeler when I see evidence of it ... pictures, direct observations or an objective assessment by someone who doesn't hate H3s. Your say-so alone isn't enough. And until you explain your reasoning, your opinion is only so much hot air and your so-called facts will remain ... imaginary.

[PARAGON]

No paragon, you're mistaken. The fact remains that between the two of us, I'm the only one who has explained and defended his position on the FJ and H3 or been open-minded enough to consider the other's point of view.

I don't need the H3 to be the better wheeler. I'm ready accept the FJ as a better stock wheeler when I see evidence of it ... pictures, direct observations or an objective assessment by someone who doesn't hate H3s. Your say-so alone isn't enough. And until you explain your reasoning, your opinion is only so much hot air and your so-called facts will remain ... imaginary.Nope, not mistaken.

You just answered your own riddle. Where have I been seen as an H3 hater besides when I made this comment about the FJ.

Point is that I don't give a **** what you say about your mindedness. Those that have cared to ask sensibly about my thoughts on the FJ know why and how it performed. The idea that you, or any others that question my credibility, views my opinion as hot air and facts as imaginary, is a hoot. It's not my job here to try to impress you.

[ZigsRig]

One thing to point out here...

First, Isnt it interesting how EVERYONE else's oppinion is wrong, or stupid... However, P's oppinion in his own mind are hard fact...

Also, why is it that people only argue with P? Could it be that his arrogant ways have overstayed his welcome?

http://z71tahoe-suburban.com/iboard/style_emoticons/default/ban.gif

[DennisAJC]

One thing to point out here...


Also, why is it that people only argue with P? Could it be that his arrogant ways have overstayed his welcome?

http://z71tahoe-suburban.com/iboard/style_emoticons/default/ban.gif

I'm sorry Zig. It was voted down 12 - 0 . Request denied.

[ZigsRig]

Thats ok too... it seems like the tables are turning...

I cant wait to see him get himself banned being a dummy :clapping:

[ZigsRig]

In not talking about our mod here....


however, it is interesting how a certain someone gets very quiet when P starts acting up....

perhaps he is embarrassed :shhh: (fat rednecks do present a bad image)

[Walter_Cronkite]

My Lord Zig,

You're as dumb and clueless as my clinically dead left nut.









.

[KenP]

One thing to point out here...

First, Isnt it interesting how EVERYONE else's oppinion is wrong, or stupid... However, P's oppinion in his own mind are hard fact...

Also, why is it that people only argue with P? Could it be that his arrogant ways have overstayed his welcome?

http://z71tahoe-suburban.com/iboard/style_emoticons/default/ban.gifHas anyone here wheeled with an FJ other than Paragon? Has anyone here wheeled with 3's and FJ's other than Paragon?

Just curious.

[31_bandits]

..can't wait for the Lexus version....lol :jump:

that was funny

i bet it has wood accents

[31_bandits]

1. Width, wheelbase, and ability to avoid the difficult line.
2. Driver experience.
3. Less concern for the preservation of sheet metal and vehicle operability.

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4. some reasonable % of "trails" were cut through whatever by jeepers for jeeps. Do the same in reverse and get a different answer.

[HummBebe]

Has anyone here wheeled with an FJ other than Paragon? Has anyone here wheeled with 3's and FJ's other than Paragon?

Just curious.

We keep inviting them, but they won't come out and wheel with us.:(

[BlueHUMMERH2]

Has anyone here wheeled with an FJ other than Paragon? Has anyone here wheeled with 3's and FJ's other than Paragon?

Just curious.

I have wheeled with both FJ's and H3's, but never at the same time. I think that is true for every member here, that none of us have been with both at the same time.

[BlueHUMMERH2]

4. some reasonable % of "trails" were cut through whatever by jeepers for jeeps. Do the same in reverse and get a different answer.

Agreed. The Paragon folks will even agree that the trails were cut for:
1. Small wheelbase
2. Skinny width

I think it's actually more fun, and more of challenge to make an H2 follow the Jeeps. The Jeeps are always surprised about how it does.

[HummBebe]

Apparently you haven't asked nicely enough.;)

From what I was told, there is a group of Hummers and FJers getting together in Cali some time in the next week or so to go wheeling.

Yep, I was going to attend, but this time I had to pike...:p

Oh well, Sewie will be there :D

[knowitall]

i bet he is scared :jump: :D

[PARAGON]

Zigturd can now come back out and play.:giggling:

[ZigsRig]

GFY cry baby :fdance:

[DennisAJC]

WOW!!!!


I just went through this thread again and realized how impressive the FJ footage is and nothing interesting of the H3s except a few chops of gun on top of the posers.


.....And alot of whining.:giggling:


I think I'll ask the FJ crowd to give me some footage to go with my H2 video.:jump:

[usetosellhummer]

I think that is a great Idea, Put the Fj footage with your H2 footage

[CO Hummer]

Oh, and he posted this picture to show what I just noticed the other day. The exhaust tip hangs LOWER than the bumper, and he says he can take a big hit off a drop? :clapping:

That's a good catch. No pun intended. If I had my exhaust hanging like that I'd have smashed it flat by now - especially in Moab.

[DennisAJC]

That's a good catch. No pun intended. If I had my exhaust hanging like that I'd have smashed it flat by now - especially in Moab.

I think a certain sombody did that already in Moab. I can't tell you who or Rock's would kill me.:clapping:

[DennisAJC]

Haha, thanks for bumping this.

I forgot how stupid DTHVLY was, and he NEVER ONCE answered the questions that challenged all his BS. Just kept throwing sh!t around, what an idiot.

Oh, and he posted this picture to show what I just noticed the other day. The exhaust tip hangs LOWER than the bumper, and he says he can take a big hit off a drop? :clapping:
Ya be even with that, they can still outwheel, outpower, outclass the H3 hands down.:OWNED: