View Full Version : Why are People Shooting the Amish?
MarineHawk
10-02-2006, 05:43 PM
Any ideas?
PARAGON
10-02-2006, 06:08 PM
Amish shooting sparks call for stricter tomato control laws
OHIO (Wired Press) - This past Monday in Mount Hope, Ohio, the vicious attack of an innocent motorist by flying tomatoes is causing local residents to rethink their long held belief that tomatoes are relatively harmless vegetables that are mostly used for self defense. The Ohio motorist barely escaped with his life after his car sustained repeated tomato bombardment from a terrorist-style ambush. The man described his attackers as "a radical militant Amish Sect", which has yet to claim responsibility for the attack. The man, though obviously overmatched, managed to hold off his attackers with a .45 caliber handgun and barely escape with his life.
There have been 7 tomato related deaths in the United States over the last 200 years and now two in the last 50 years - an alarming trend that has many people worried if this country is going to see the same tomato violence that has become an all too familiar sight in countries like Spain. The small Spanish town of Bunol has long been the sight of brutal guerilla-style tomato combat, in which thousands of wounded stagger through the streets, their shirts stained red with the violence.
Some Mount Hope residents think this incident should be a wake-up call to America. Local Amish elder Ezekial Jebediah thinks so. "I have been pushing for tomato reform for years. Kids can just go to the store and buy them. No background check, not ID required. As soon as they get them home they can convert them from semi to fully automatic in five minutes! The worst thing is that they aren't even vegetables, they are fruits. The lies!"
PARAGON
10-02-2006, 06:13 PM
Gunman Dead After Opening Fire At Amish School
Multiple Deaths Reported At Pa. School
http://img.viacomlocalnetworks.com/images_image_347144508 CBS News Interactive: School Shootings (javascript:void(0);)
(CBS) NICKEL MINES, Pa. A "number" of people were killed in a shooting at a one-room Amish schoolhouse Monday, state police said.
Police say the shooting happened around 11 a.m. at the Wolf Rock School on Mine and Rock Roads in Paradise, Pennsylvania.
"There are a number of people dead. ... The exact number I do not know yet," state police Cpl. Ralph Striebig said.
The person who fired the shots was among those killed, Striebig said.
At least 12 ambulances and four medical helicopters were dispatched to the scene, KYW-TV, the CBS affiliate in Philadelphia, reported.
Authorities say several victims were taken to area hospitals. The ages, conditions and exact number of victims were not immediately available.
About three dozen Amish people were seen standing behind a police line, and at least two ambulances had left the scene. Television news helicopters also showed a person being taken away on a stretcher to a waiting medical helicopter.
A spokesperson from Lancaster General Hospital said they received three patients and have requested all available personnel to report to duty.
Officials at the Penn State Milton S. Hershey Medical Center confirmed that victims were being admitted there. A spokeswoman said the hospital anticipated treating more than one patient, but did not know how many.
A web site states the Wolf Rock School, in the village of Nickel Mines, has a total student body of 27 and is classified as a coed religious school of Amish Association.
PARAGON
10-02-2006, 06:14 PM
Report: 2 Las Vegas Schools In Lockdown
http://img.viacomlocalnetworks.com/images_image_347144508 CBS News Interactive: School Shootings (javascript:void(0);)
(AP) LAS VEGAS Two schools were locked down Monday while police searched for a teenager who had been spotted on a high school campus with a gun, authorities said.
No students were hurt, and police said there was no initial indication that the teenager, who they said was not a student, had threatened anyone with the weapon, said Sean Walker, a North Las Vegas police spokesman.
The teen ran from the school after being confronted by campus police as students were arriving at Mojave High School, Walker said.
A handgun was found behind a nearby church, and both the high school and nearby Elizondo Elementary School were locked down while police searched the surrounding neighborhoods for the teen, Walker said.
School districts across the country have been especially sensitive to threats after deadly shootings last week at schools in Wisconsin and Colorado.
On Friday, a school principal was gunned down in Cazenovia, Wis., and a 15-year-old student, described as upset over a reprimand, was charged with murder. Just two days earlier, an adult gunman held six girls hostage in a school at Bailey, Colo., before killing a 16-year-old girl and then himself.
On Sept. 21, three high school seniors in Green Bay, Wis., were charged with conspiracy to commit homicide for allegedly planning to attack a school with guns and bombs.
I don't get it. The Amish don't mess with anyone.
http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20978
Wanted revenge from 20yrs ago and wanted to attack young females. WTF????
h2co-pilot
10-02-2006, 09:57 PM
Sumbody prolly touched his bunghole or something. :rolleyes:
What a terrible thing. Poor kids. 3 dead at the scene and the gunman was dead there also. 7 in the hospital with critical wounds. He separated the girls from the boys, let the boys and older women go.:mad:
DennisAJC
10-02-2006, 10:01 PM
What is the hiring criteria for Postmen and Milkmen?
BlueHUMMERH2
10-02-2006, 10:33 PM
Pretty much happened right down the road from here (20 mins). Sick minded individual for certain.
PARAGON
10-02-2006, 10:33 PM
speaking of
Pretty much happened right down the road from here (20 mins). Sick minded individual for certain.You don't hang out with partsguy, do you?
BlueHUMMERH2
10-03-2006, 03:47 AM
You don't hang out with partsguy, do you?
Sadly, I have not hung out with partsguy. Perhaps we should meet up sometime. I'm going to Paragon this weekend I think.
Andy C has tried to meet up numerous times, but usually leaves messages on here at 2pm that he's already at the DTL in Lebanon.... :D
PARAGON
10-03-2006, 05:56 AM
Sadly, I have not hung out with partsguy. So sad..... so very, very sad.
Agriv8r
10-03-2006, 03:35 PM
back to the subject, is it safe to send your kids to school anymore?
h2co-pilot
10-03-2006, 03:50 PM
back to the subject, is it safe to send your kids to school anymore?
Another reason why I homeschool.:D
I have constantly worried about schools being an open target for such heinous acts. The children should be first and foremost on our security list (Same w/ the borders). I would rather see them beefed up than the transportation systems or anything of the like. They are our nations future and weakness on our hearts.
GLBLWARMR
10-03-2006, 04:28 PM
It is getting bad in schools these days. The best thing I can tell my sons is to go and have fun try to be cool with everyone. Try not to piss in anyone's cornflakes. This way if someone does decide to go ballistic at the school hopefully you won't be on the HIT list. Now with people just randomly picking schools to shoot up now I have to figure out to combat this one.
BlueHUMMERH2
10-03-2006, 07:55 PM
It's not really safe to do anything anymore. I just try to be alert, pay attention to what's going on around me, and know where the exits are... What else can you really do? I try not sit next to trash cans, always have my back against the wall watching the entrance, etc. Gotta be proactive.
Mrs.ssippi
10-03-2006, 09:12 PM
I think he was raped as a kid, maybe by the Amish or something. You know everyone is at risk these days. Gays, Kids, you name it they are on someones hit list. I think I might wrap my kids in that special tape that Dennis is selling. To protect them. :giggling: Or I might just put it over their mouths. :rant:
f5fstop
10-03-2006, 10:40 PM
It's not really safe to do anything anymore. I just try to be alert, pay attention to what's going on around me, and know where the exits are... What else can you really do? I try not sit next to trash cans, always have my back against the wall watching the entrance, etc. Gotta be proactive.
Sound like me. Always walk alert with your headup, never carry anything with the right arm, unless necessary, always face the door, keep your eye on the rearview mirror while driving, and keep one in the chamber at all times.:D
PARAGON
10-03-2006, 11:36 PM
I try not sit next to trash cans, always have my back against the wall watching the entrance, etc. Gotta be proactive.ummm......... okay, that one is just waaay too easy.
BlueHUMMERH2
10-04-2006, 12:20 AM
Sound like me. Always walk alert with your headup, never carry anything with the right arm, unless necessary, always face the door, keep your eye on the rearview mirror while driving, and keep one in the chamber at all times.:D
Yeah, you have to be a bit like James Hickok... Just don't let anyone sit you where the door's behind you. :D
"Wild Bill" Hickok (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wild_Bill_Hickok#Death)
PARAGON
10-04-2006, 12:33 AM
Yeah, you have to be a bit like James Hickok... Just don't let anyone sit you where the door's behind you. :D
"Wild Bill" Hickok (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wild_Bill_Hickok#Death)Why does it matter? You could go all Matrix on them and dodge the bullets and ****, right?
Andy C
10-04-2006, 03:34 PM
Sadly, I have not hung out with partsguy. Perhaps we should meet up sometime. I'm going to Paragon this weekend I think.
Andy C has tried to meet up numerous times, but usually leaves messages on here at 2pm that he's already at the DTL in Lebanon.... :D
Sorry I missed you in Lebanon - back in Florida now.
BlueHUMMERH2
10-09-2006, 01:18 AM
I think this is amazing. If only everyone, not just the Amish, could have this kind of attitude towards others, I think the world would be a better place. It's nice to see how much money the local community is providing for the families too:
Amish mourn gunman in school rampage (http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2006-10-06-amish-funeral_x.htm)
GEORGETOWN, Pa. (AP) — Dozens of Amish neighbors came out Saturday to mourn the quiet milkman who killed five of their young girls and wounded five more in a brief, unfathomable rampage.
Charles Carl Roberts IV, 32, was buried in his wife's family plot behind a small Methodist church, a few miles from the one-room schoolhouse he stormed Monday.
http://images.usatoday.com/news/_photos/2006/10/06/amish-large.jpg
His wife, Marie, and their three small children looked on as Roberts was buried beside the pink, heart-shaped grave of the infant daughter whose death nine years ago apparently haunted him, said Bruce Porter, a fire department chaplain from Colorado who attended the service.
About half of perhaps 75 mourners on hand were Amish.
"It's the love, the forgiveness, the heartfelt forgiveness they have toward the family. I broke down and cried seeing it displayed," said Porter, who had come to Pennsylvania to offer what help he could. He said Marie Roberts was also touched.
"She was absolutely deeply moved, by just the love shown," Porter said.
Leaders of the local Amish community were gathering Saturday afternoon at a firehouse to decide the future of the schoolhouse, and of the school year itself.
The prevailing wisdom suggested a new school would be built.
"There will definitely be a new school built, but not on that property," said Mike Hart, a spokesman for the Bart Fire Company in Georgetown.
Roberts stormed the West Nickel Mines Amish School on Monday, releasing the 15 boys and four adults before tying up and shooting the 10 girls. Roberts, who had come armed with a shotgun, a handgun and a stun gun, then killed himself.
Roberts' suicide notes and last calls with his wife reveal a man tormented by memories — as yet unsubstantiated — of molesting two young relatives 20 years ago. He said he was also angry at God for the Nov. 14, 1997, death of the couple's first child, a girl named Elise Victoria who lived for just 20 minutes.
Hart is one of two non-Amish community members serving on a 10-member board that will decide how to distribute donations that have come in following the global news coverage. One stranger walked into the firehouse Saturday morning and dropped a $100 bill in the collection jar.
The condolences flowing into the Bart Post Office filled three large cartons on Saturday — two for the Amish children and one for the Roberts clan.
"(It's) envelopes, packages, food and a lot of cards," clerk Helena Salerno said.
More than $500,000 has been pledged, some of which is expected to cover medical costs for the five surviving girls. They remain hospitalized, and one is said to be in grave condition.
As the Sabbath Day approached, close friends expected to spend Sunday paying visits to the victims' families.
The funerals for the five slain girls — Marian Fisher, 13; Anna Mae Stoltzfus, 12; Naomi Rose Ebersol, 7, and sisters Mary Liz Miller, 8, and Lena Miller, 7 — were held Thursday and Friday.
One Amish woman, an aunt to the Miller girls, set out Saturday to retrieve some of the flowers dropped near the school and bring them to the families.
She was traveling on an Amish scooter and tried to balance two potted plants before going home and returning for the task with a child's small wagon.
The massacre sent out images to the world not only of the violence, but also of a little-known community that chooses to live an insular, agrarian way of life, shunning cars, electricity and other modern conveniences.
By Saturday, the hordes of satellite trucks and stand-up reporters had mostly left the country roads, and a semblance of routine returned. Early in the morning, Amish farmers hauled farm equipment past the boarded-up school.
"It was just getting to be too much," said Jane Kreider, a 48-year-old teacher's aide in Georgetown. "It was just, 'Get out of dodge, get out of our town and we'll pull together.'"
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