I told you!! Something MUST be done

[KenP]

Most popular names in England last year:
http://www.woodlands-junior.kent.sch.uk/customs/questions/names.htm

Please note the following:
#23 Mohammed
#56 Muhammed
#70 Mohammad

It's just a matter of time before the radical parasites take over a nuclear country. And yes, it's started here. The liberals are going to kill us off with their policies.
Last month Keith (Hakim Mohammad) Ellison of Minnesota became the first Muslim elected to serve in the Congress and shocked many Americans by declaring that he would take his oath of office by placing his hand on the Quran rather than the Bible. Can a true believer in the Islamic doctrine found in the Quran swear allegiance to our Constitution? Those who profess a sincere belief in Allah say "no!" Keith Ellison has been reported (http://www.discoverthenetwork.org/Articles/Doubts%20grow%20over%20Muslim%20lawmaker's.html) to be associated with an extreme Muslim sect that recognizes no law as superior to Sharia, the Islamic code, and that preaches no Muslim can swear allegiance to the US Constitution, something required of Congressmen. He is also associated with American Open University, a radical Islamic school [ interesting choice of a name don't you think?] whose founder has denounced the US system of democracy as antithetical to Islam, and announced that laws contrary to their faith are prohibitedFor those with eyes to see, the mask has long since fallen from the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR). Even such stalwart Democrats as Senators Dick Durbin and Charles Schumer have come to recognize CAIR's "association with groups that are suspect," (http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=16109) its "ties to terrorism" (http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.asp?ID=9981) and its "intimate links with Hamas." (http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=13175)

[KenP]

His supporters are CAIR Executive Director Nihad Awad and Chairman of the Board Parvez Ahmed.Ellison's election will certainly send a powerful message, as does the support of Ellison by the likes of Awad and Ahmed, though not the message that they note. Meet Nihad Awad: ? Nihad Awad publicly declared his enthusiasm for Hamas at Barry University in Florida in 1994: "I'm in support of Hamas movement more than the PLO."
? This same year, according to the Weekly Standard, when Mike Wallace of CBS's "60 Minutes" asked Awad if he supports the "military undertakings of Hamas," Awad stood up for the terrorist group and told him, "The United Nations Charter grants people who are under occupation [the right] to defend themselves against illegal occupation."
? In an August 19, 2006 interview on C-SPAN's Washington Journal, Awad rationalized suicide terrorism by suggesting it's really about fighting injustice. He refers to the writing of author Robert Pape on the subject: "He found out that it [suicide terrorism] has more to do with occupations and fighting injustice than religion. It really responds to the myth and the known notion now that has been used by several commentators and some politicians as a clich? because it sounds maybe dramatically well but factually it is not."
? Shortly after September 11, 2001, Awad and CAIR placed on their website a picture of the World Trade Center in flames and under it a call for donations. It read, "What you can do for the victims of the WTC and Pentagon attacks," and by clicking on "Donate to the NY/DC Emergency Relief Fund" one was unsuspectingly sent directly to the website of the Holy Land Foundation. A week later, the wording of the site was changed, as visitors to the site were directly told to "Donate through the Holy Land Foundation." The link was on CAIR's website until early December 2001, when the information mysteriously disappeared.
? On December 4, 2001, the reason for the disappearance was apparent, as the Holy Land Foundation's assets were blocked by the United States government for funneling money to Hamas. According to the White House website, "The U.S.-based Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development [provided] millions of dollars each year that [was] used by HAMAS."
? On Sept. 16, 2000, at a Washington rally sponsored by CAIR, AMC, and MPAC, Awad declared: "They [the Jews] have been saying 'next year to Jerusalem,' we say 'next year to all of Palestine!'"
Awad is a former official of the Islamic Association of Palestine, which was a front group for Hamas. As one can infer from the items above, Awad and CAIR appear to act as voices of the "Wahhabi lobby" and as a front for supporters of Islamist terrorism. Below is a photo of Awad speaking on April 20, 2002 in Washington, D.C. on a stage bearing the flag of Hezbollah.http://powerlineblog.com/archives/awad.jpg

And who is Parvez Ahmed? Ahmed was a prominent supporter of Sami Al-Arian (http://www.freesamialarian.com/media/media123.html), the convicted terrorist financier and head of the North American branch of the terrorist Palestinian Islamic Jihad.

[K9sH3]

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I agree, but from what I have seen there are just too many stupid people in this country to actually understand what is happening. Too many people believe Islam is a peaceful religion when it is not a peaceful religion. First Europe, then the Americas, then the world. If we don't wake up, in a few hundred years, Islam will be the only religion left.

[-=Mac=-]

Almost makes that war in Iraq sound worthwhile, doesn't it? The next time someone says "Cut & Run!", take the time to remind them of the price of freedom.

-Mac

[KenP]

First Europe, then the Americas, then the world. If we don't wake up, in a few hundred years, Islam will be the only religion left.Industialized nation's families typically have a very low birth rate. In England you see about 1.5 children born to each couple. A typical Muslim family in England is having 5-6 children per couple. The religion now emphasizes having many children, whereas in the past, it didn't make that emphasis.

What do you think will happen?

[KenP]

Almost makes that war in Iraq sound worthwhile, doesn't it? The next time someone says "Cut & Run!", take the time to remind them of the price of freedom.

-MacTake time to build GDamn walls and stop illegal immigration.

Take time out to PROFILE those visiting this country.

Take time out to PROFILE those using airlines... and buses... and...

Use Isael's methods... Oh wait... We can't. The liberals don't want us to protect ourselves.

[RuggedH2]

Time will tell.

[On Soapbox] If the radical Muslims have any of the success they seek, their motives will be clearer and more difficult for the libs in the media to look past. When they finally hit us hard enough, we will unite as a nation. We will find the national backbone we are searching for, and will burn the whole Islamic mother-f*cker down.

I wish we could take more preemptive action, but the liberals in our society will not allow it. They are sheep by nature. It has to be clear to them that their very lives are at stake, and at this point they do not believe it. [Off Soapbox]

That is all.

[-=Mac=-]

Take time to build GDamn walls and stop illegal immigration.

Take time out to PROFILE those visiting this country.

Take time out to PROFILE those using airlines... and buses... and...

Use Isael's methods... Oh wait... We can't. The liberals don't want us to protect ourselves.
Luckily, Canada doesn't have as much illegal problems but otherwise, I agree wholeheartedly.

-Mac

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Luckily, Canada doesn't have as much illegal problems but otherwise, I agree wholeheartedly.

-Mac

Been to Toronto lately? In the past fifteen years, that city has gone from a friendly city to visit, to a city where no one speaks English, and gangs roam outside the Pantages theater.

[KenP]

Time will tell.

[On Soapbox] If the radical Muslims have any of the success they seek, their motives will be clearer and more difficult for the libs in the media to look past. When they finally hit us hard enough, we will unite as a nation.Like after 911? Then we, as a Nation with our short attention spans, forget all about it.:rant:

I''m still ranting!!!

[GLBLWARMR]

Like after 911? Then we, as a Nation with our short attention spans, forget all about it.:rant:

I''m still ranting!!!


Ding, Ding, Ding. That is human nature. Once it is no longer a concern to their well being they forget about it or start bitchin about it. Then the next time something happens they will come together and unite against the enemy, then they will start bitching that enough was not done to prevent it, then they will start bitchin the war is costing to much, then they will say that its not my concern, then they will say what are we fighting for, then they will say are we still fighting, "OMG that was like so yesterday". Then the cycle will repeat exactly the same way once something else happens. OOOPPS I guess I am still ranting too!!!

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Been to Toronto lately? In the past fifteen years, that city has gone from a friendly city to visit, to a city where no one speaks English, and gangs roam outside the Pantages theater.
I avoid Toronto like the plague... I've done so since I lived there in the early 80s. It was ugly then and it hasn't improved. Most 'real' Canadians look upon Toronto as a horrid aberration.

-Mac

[KenP]

I avoid Toronto like the plague... I've done so since I lived there in the early 80s. It was ugly then and it hasn't improved. Most 'real' Canadians look upon Toronto as a horrid aberration.

-MacWhat about Quebec?:giggling: ;)

[RuggedH2]

Like after 911? Then we, as a Nation with our short attention spans, forget all about it.:rant:

I''m still ranting!!!

I agree completely.

[Back On Soapbox] The means necessary to properly deal with the spreading radical muslim influence would be drastic, severe, and utterly ruthless. We have the means available.

The population of our society is made up of a large percentage of weak willed, loud mouthed, crybabies. Some of these same people cried out for national defense when they believed we were threatened, then changed their beliefs when they no longer felt insecure.

Unfortunately, I believe the radical islamics will have to hit us HARD, Again, before most of these crybabies will come with support for a military solution. I also believe that our military solution must be ruthless.

When the Russians faced some of the same problems, (Terrorists kidnapping Russian officials and killing/beheading them) they discovered who did it, took the families of those responsible, used them to get to the perpetrators, and ended up killing the entire lot of them. Ruthless gets respect in the Muslim world. Half measures and politically correct approaches, gets more suicide bombers.

In the end it will be one way of life or the other, they laid out the stakes not us. We will eventually be forced to a crossroads, their religion has taught them that this is the way it will be, and that there is no other way.[End Soapbox]

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What about Quebec?:giggling: ;)
I lived in Montreal for a year in the late 80s... I was young, single, making decent money and Montreal had some lovely uninhibited women... My French wasn't great but I managed. My memories of Montreal are much more pleasant than my memories of Toronto.

-Mac

[-=Mac=-]

The population of our society is made up of a large percentage of weak willed, loud mouthed, crybabies. Some of these same people cried out for national defense when they believed we were threatened, then changed their beliefs when they no longer felt insecure.
I couldn't agree more. Canada has the same problem... and the short attention span as well. As Islamofascism takes over more and more countries, eventually we will reach the point where the appeasers will realize they're walking a path to destruction of Western society. Let's hope they don't wake up too late.

-Mac

[RuggedH2]

Nothing should come as a surprise. The doctrine of the religion spells out Jihad against nonbelievers, it openly states that Islam must rule the world. It states that nowhere where Islam has been established, can ever be taken back by infidels (Israel). There can never be peace with Israel. It must be reclaimed. When Yasser Arafat made the deal with Israel he was attacked in the Palestinian media. He gave a speech to let his countrymen know that what he had done was just as the prophet Muhammad had done, temporarily concede to preserve what he had, until he could build his strength back to attack again.

Anyone who thinks these are "radical Muslim" ideas is mistaken. They are Muslim ideas. These people believe enough to blow themselves into pieces, if it will kill infidels.

They do not hide what they believe. Our media won't discuss the real issues with this religion. More is definitely to come.

I just wish it didn't require the deaths of so many Americans to motivate us to the necessary action. History really does repeat itself.

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History really does repeat itself.
Yup, until we learn it's lesson. By the way, Israel isn't the only infidel nation; all nations which aren't Islamic caliphates are infidel.

-Mac

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True, but it was Muslim, and now it is not. That is unacceptable according to the teachings of Islam. That is why the ongoing mess has dragged on for decades and will continue until it is reclaimed.

Osama has stated that America was targeted because non Islamic military forces are standing on Muslim ground. He was originally referring to our presence in Saudi Arabia. His motivation is further supported now.

Some Americans don't believe we are fighting "Al Qaeda" in Iraq. Even though the most targeted man there was the head of "Al Qaeda in Iraq" before we killed him.

The Iranians are also behind much of the Sunni - Shiite fighting within the population. While at the same time they are actively trying to develop nuclear weapons. Our newly elected Democrats are already discussing their exit strategies from the region. Only fools would consider this course of action with the information they have available to them. Our media isn't reporting what's real, but our intelligence agencies are.

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True, but it was Muslim, and now it is not. That is unacceptable according to the teachings of Islam. That is why the ongoing mess has dragged on for decades and will continue until it is reclaimed.

Osama has stated that America was targeted because non Islamic military forces are standing on Muslim ground. He was originally referring to our presence in Saudi Arabia. His motivation is further supported now.

Some Americans don't believe we are fighting "Al Qaeda" in Iraq. Even though the most targeted man there was the head of "Al Qaeda in Iraq" before we killed him.

The Iranians are also behind much of the Sunni - Shiite fighting within the population. While at the same time they are actively trying to develop nuclear weapons. Our newly elected Democrats are already discussing their exit strategies from the region. Only fools would consider this course of action with the information they have available to them. Our media isn't reporting what's real, but our intelligence agencies are.

Most Americans, thanks to the liberals and the liberal media, do not understand what would most likely happen if the US military pulled out and left Iraq in the condition it is in at this time. Iran would basically take over, via the Shiite movement of the Mahdi Army headed by Muqtada al-Sadr. They would hunt down and destroy the Sunni militants; meanwhile the non-Sunni militants would head to neighboring countries like Jordon, Syria, Turkey or even the Kurdish area of Iraq.

The Liberal press has done a great job of skipping over the threat from Iran, just like they did with the Hezbolah being supported by Iran.

However, now this has hit the papers, but will it wake people up?

Report: U.S. Forces Net 4 Top Iranian Officials After Series of Raids in Iraq

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,238719,00.html

[KenP]

However, now this has hit the papers, but will it wake people up?

Report: U.S. Forces Net 4 Top Iranian Officials After Series of Raids in Iraq

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,238719,00.htmlNope.:mad:

[RuggedH2]

The topic of doing something about all this (being infiltrated and overpowered by our enemies from within) is engaging.

I think first we have to be aware of who the enemy is. We have all been lead to believe that "radical Islam" is different than Islam. This is not the complete truth. Where the clerics rule, is where the most trouble with this religion is found, Iran and previously Afghanistan, (and al Sadar in Iraq). Bin Laden has not been found, even with a $25,000,000.00 dollar reward out for him. Common Muslims believe much of what he preaches. He is not the planner of militant operations for Al Qaeda, but more of the spiritual visionary for them.

Israel is an example, there is no negotiations with Islam. It can be only be one way and the doctrine states that Islam must eventually rule the world. The faithful are faithful in ways we as westerners do not understand. They will not be "bought" (or convinced) with the promise of a better life in America. We are the great Satan.

If you truly believed with all you are, and thought that god called you to kill infidels through Jihad, would you do it? They do, in massive numbers. They have read this and been taught about Jihad from youth. They believe, in spite of all they have seen and learned. Mohammed Atta was college educated, learned to fly, and was capable of flying a commercial jet liner. He lived in America for months, went to bars (and strip clubs) and assimilated into our culture. All with the purpose of killing himself in the process of inflicting damage to his enemy. This enemy of ours is committed and serious.

Many in our culture don't believe this threat is real anymore. They don't think some backward society with all kinds of religious ties is really capable of affecting our massive influence, economy and power in the world. This enemy is more committed and skilled than many of our people realize. Their real strength is the commitment of the believers.

Look what happened in just one day in September, not that long ago. How did our economy, power and influence fare in the ensuing days and months? Look how soon we forget and drop our guard. Why were so many in favor of going into Iraq, while so few admit it now?

There are too many realities that must be denied for our government to just cut and run from the middle east.

Sorry for the long post, I'd like to blame Ken.

[KenP]

Sorry for the long post, I'd like to blame Ken.Oh man... I hate it when that happens.:D

That's why I said France and England are toast. They're being taken over from within and don't really see it happening. They belive it's no problem because the Muslim population is so small, but fail to see the huge numbers of children these families are having. Their growth will be exponential in the coming years and the clerics influence will rise in power.

We need to stop it now in this country. No question about it, but it won't happen because the liberals won't let it happen.

I do fear for our country over the next couple of years and I'm concerned about the outcome of the next election. Sure Bush has his faults, but he's looking out for us as best he can.

How the hell did thost idiots in MN elect Ellison?:mad:

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How the hell did thost idiots in MI elect Ellison?:mad:

MN, not MI.:twak:
:D

[KenP]

MN, not MI.:twak:
:DDamn! Sorry and fizzled.:o

[RuggedH2]

Wasn't it the "rocket scientists" in MN that elected Jesse Ventura?

[KenP]

Wasn't it the "rocket scientists" in MN that elected Jesse Ventura?:jump:

[ssgharkness020147]

Ha ha. :OWNED:

Wasn't it the "rocket scientists" in MN that elected Jesse Ventura?